The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Ksail101 on April 26, 2008, 08:46:04 AM
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I have wanted to get a single action revolver for as long as I can remember. Probably ever since I was kid running around with a plastic cap gun and one of those fake hard felt cowboy hats.
I really really like the Ruger Vaquero, I love it for its looks and don't know anything about it but what I have read. I want it in .45LC. Now if you have a better gun to get started with please chime in.
And getting this handgun in .45LC am I putting myself into a cornor with the ammo?Should I go for the .357 mag so I can use the .38 as well? Or does this not aply to a single handgun like these.
See I am really not experience with revolvers at all. And my knowelge in handguns is getting better, but I know what I have learned form the military and being in a war zone. Civilian choices is still new. And I was figuring this was a great way to get out and shoot and use a revolver so I can learn how they come apart and how to clean them an all that.
I want a lever-action cowboy long gun as well. I really like a 20in barrel, or carbine size. So I know this goes into another topic but if you want say something on this too.
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I have the old style Vaquero's but I really like the looks of the new style better because it's not so heavy duty. The single action Colt would be my ultimate...but I can't afford it. The Berretta Stampedes are nice and slick and finished really well....I used to think about getting one of those.
However, to get a "real" gun now....I'd get a used new style Vaquero...that's right used. Then I'd box the thing up and send it to Bob Munden with about $300 and would get something back that you can't touch off-the-shelf. You may have to wait a bit....but he will set the sights to point of impact, fix the forcing cone, fix the trigger, fix the springs, etc..etc. It will be a real gun then! And...will have additional value down the road due to providence!
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Cimarron (uberti) make a revolver with dual cylinders, one for 45colt and the other for 45acp. Do all your practice with the acp (<$)
and compete with the Long colt.
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Here's my current list of favorite Single Actions:
Ruger New Vaquero (http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAFamily?type=Revolver&subtype=Single%20Action&famlst=57&variation=Blued). MSRP $640.00
The Smokewagon Deluxe Model(Taylor) (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfSmokeWagon.tpl). This model was introduced last year and includes custom tuning; custom hammer and base pin springs; trigger-spring at three pounds; jig-cut, positive angles on all triggers and sears for crisp, reliable action; a coil-loaded hand; and wire bolt and trigger springs. MSRP: $575.00
USFA Rodeo (http://usfirearms.com/cat/rodeogun.asp) For the rodeo I would suggest an action job from Long Hunter (http://www.longhunt.com/firearms/usfa.shtml). MRSP: $625.00.
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Marshalette's cowboy guns are:
A pair of Taylor Island Girls (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfIslandGirl.tpl) (.38 Special)
1 Winchester 1873 (Taylor Model # 2012) in .357 Magnum (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cf1873Winchester.tpl)
1 TTN Model 1897 12 guage Pump Shotgun
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Thank you everyone. I really will take everything into consideration.
Yeah I would like a Colt, but I am trying to keep it resonable in price and I want to shoot the snot out of it, and if I got the Colt I would shoot it once and wipe it off shoot it, and then clean it. Then hold it and look at. and look at it some more. LOL. It would just be too beautiful for me to do what I want with a Cowboy gun.
I really like your ideas of sending off a used Ruger Vaquero to a pistolsmith, maybe even the one you recomend since I dont know very many cowboy action smiths, and have it become a "real wheel gun."
I am posting a Follow-up in the rifle Topic
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Ksail, as far as Single Action revolvers go, Rugers are one of the best, They're built anvil strong and will last a couple lifetimes. As far as Gunsmiths go for a Ruger there is only one that I would recommend, That would be Wes Flowers (AKA West Fargo SASS#1910), He will make your Ruger into a work of art at a VERY reasonable price. You won't be disappointed with his work.Here is a link to his website
http://cas-town.com/WestFargoGunsmith/price.html
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I shoot opentops mostly, 1851RM Conversion and 1872 replics, but if you new to the game, I'd recommend the Ruger New Vaquero, and I'd go with the 38's, darn sight cheaper to reload than 45's... And if your thinking about cowboy action shooting, you might start saving up for the other pistol and shotgun now also...
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I have shot the crap out of a pair of Uberti Milleniums in .45 LC and of course everyone says these guns are no good but will not go down range when I have them in hand...
The Uberti 1873 Short Rifle in .45LC is great too
These were all intended to be starters to see if I would stay the course but now I see no need to change the Rugers are great and there many after market parts but do you really need the cylinder to go backwards?
I have waffled on shotguns now I have gone back to a '97 clone because I like it around the house...
Remember the spirit of CAS is/was to have fun and shoot!
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Hi Ksail,
I found myself in a similar predicament several months back. I ended up ordering the SAA from U.S. Firearms. Knowing that tossing a lot of lead around would be expensive (45LC), I've set up my press for reloading for it. Then, when I couldn't wait for the USFA gun to come, I went out and got a Great Western II in 45. This can be had for around $400, but mine was case-color hardened and sports simulated ivory one piece grips ($599). It's great and I'm having a blast. I enjoy taking in the cowboy shoots, but I'm not really interested in participating. I just like shooting and hunting some with my revolvers. But if you think you might want to get into this sport, you'll want (eventually) two revolvers of the same make/model, and probably in /.38, though many shoot 45's.
You can't go wrong with the Rugers or USFA's rodeo though. But, the Great Western (www.emf-company.com) is another you might want to consider and ideally compare in person at your local dealer. Enjoy!
MtnHermit
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I'm far from being an expert but IMO if you plan on being a TOP GUN stick with the 38/357 platform b/c of R&R (reloading cost & recoil).The best cheap route IMO would be a pair of used Ruger Blackhawks then do or get an action job.For the rifle it doesn't get any better than an 1873 Short Rifle.If you just want to play & don't care about your finish pick whatever flavor strikes your fancy b/c the repro market is HUUUGE!!
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My current cowboy battery includes:
2 Ruger 50th Anniversary Flat-Top .357s, tuned by Cylinder & Slide Shop (I usually shoot Modern)
1 Navy Arms/Puma .357 1892 WInchester clone, tuned by Steve Young at Steve's Gunz
1 1897 Winchester clone from Coyote Cap Gunworks
Alternately, if I shoot Traditional, I use two Ruger Vaqueros in .44 Mag/.44 Special and an out-of-the-box Marlin .44 Magnum lever gun that's as creaky as an old Dodge truck. The Rugers are indeed tanks. Long Hunter turned up my Sweetie's .32 H&R Ruger Single Sixes, and he did a sweet, sweet job. Can't recommend him highly enough as a gun mechanic. I like the .357s because ammo is much cheaper and I usually have tons of it around. I like the .44 because I just like .44s...when I shoot 'em, I'm usually the only person at the match running .44 Specials....so there!
I'd take Marshal's advice, though...he's better than me...
Michael B