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Title: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Solus on September 19, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colt-suspending-production-of-ar-15-for-civilians
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 19, 2019, 07:22:50 PM
Unless things have changed, it's 'supposedly' temporary..... Not the first time Colt's has shirked the public market for the gubmint contract route because they lack the wherewithal to do both.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: crusader rabbit on September 19, 2019, 08:12:28 PM
Got a Colt upper on a Bushmaster lower.  Not planning on selling.  Not that thrilled with Colt.

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on September 20, 2019, 10:40:22 AM
They said they're losing money...purely a business decision.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 20, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
They said they're losing money...purely a business decision.


To hear them tell it, Colt's has never made money.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 20, 2019, 07:53:30 PM
They said they're losing money...purely a business decision.

The thing is that this isn't your daddy's Colt anymore.  They lost one military contract,and they could not recover from it.  The way I see it is that their marketing department is no longer able to sell their mediocre products.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Rastus on September 20, 2019, 08:35:56 PM
Yep.  That's the way I see it.

Where is Bill on all of this?  He usually has an opinion....
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on September 21, 2019, 04:08:19 PM
The thing is that this isn't your daddy's Colt anymore. 

Pop was more of a Savage or Monkey Wards kind of guy...   :D
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Magoo541 on September 27, 2019, 02:19:05 PM
I have been working in the Aerospace/ITAR world for the last couple of months as a Manufacturing Engineer and the amount of documented process/associated costs is enough to keep Colt's price-point significantly higher than its competitors.  My employer is trying to transition back to being a Job Shop from a dedicated Aerospace Machine Shop and I am trying to encourage a dual path through the shop, 1 for AS and 1 for Joe Schmoe.  Too much "Process" to be competitive if we don't.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on September 27, 2019, 02:43:45 PM
I have been working in the Aerospace/ITAR world for the last couple of months as a Manufacturing Engineer and the amount of documented process/associated costs is enough to keep Colt's price-point significantly higher than its competitors.  My employer is trying to transition back to being a Job Shop from a dedicated Aerospace Machine Shop and I am trying to encourage a dual path through the shop, 1 for AS and 1 for Joe Schmoe.  Too much "Process" to be competitive if we don't.
..

Is your shop AS9100?
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Magoo541 on October 14, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
..

Is your shop AS9100?

Yep.  Sub-tier approvals for a lot of the big guys too.  8)
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 15, 2019, 08:10:27 AM
Yep.  Sub-tier approvals for a lot of the big guys too.  8)

Yea, those kind of quality systems tend to inflate the cost of everything the shop does on less stringent customers.  We weren't AS9100 but our quality systems basically priced us out of any reasonably easy work we quoted.

Doesn't matter now, my shop shut it's doors on March 30 and left 40 of us out on the street minus our last two weeks salary and unpaid vacation and sick time!  They owe me about 5K!

Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Rastus on October 19, 2019, 08:25:09 AM
That's terrible Timothy.  I hope all of you get something from a bankruptcy judge.

When Chevron bought Gulf I lost $450 a month in retirement benefits. 
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 20, 2019, 08:25:37 AM
That's terrible Timothy.  I hope all of you get something from a bankruptcy judge.

When Chevron bought Gulf I lost $450 a month in retirement benefits.

The courts in OK where our mother ship was incorporated in the US gave the whole thing to the Canadian courts since the main company was based out of Calgary.  MA law requires that we be paid all of our wages including unpaid vacation and accrued sick time however, the AG has given us little hope that we'll see anything at all due to the Canadians having control.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Solus on October 20, 2019, 09:49:22 AM
 >:(  Somebody get a rope
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 22, 2019, 10:23:27 PM
What Solus said!

However, after the election yesterday in Canada, maybe the Sugar Daddy up there will put you on their freebie list.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: TAB on October 23, 2019, 04:20:14 PM
Sorry to hear that.

I hope you get some of it.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 25, 2019, 02:27:58 PM
Just accepted a part time gig at the gun counter at our local Cabela's!

Should be fun...minimum wage but that's nearly $13 bucks here...
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Rastus on October 25, 2019, 04:01:39 PM
Glad you managed to snag a gig. 
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 25, 2019, 05:12:02 PM
Glad you managed to snag a gig.

Thanks!  I was doing part time at Lowe's but the place was toxic...worked there for a month.  I'm limited on income for SSA.  Working 25-30 hours until I'm 65 then I'll decide if I want to pick up more hours.  I have SS, small pension and possibly a small disability from the VA coming.  We're fine unless I need health care...playing roulette on that issue at the moment.

Obamacare/Romneycare is not cheap so I opted not to buy it...
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Rastus on October 25, 2019, 06:29:37 PM
I sure hope it works out for you.  Looks like a really tight place to be in.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: crusader rabbit on October 26, 2019, 06:47:25 AM
Thanks!  I was doing part time at Lowe's but the place was toxic...worked there for a month.  I'm limited on income for SSA.  Working 25-30 hours until I'm 65 then I'll decide if I want to pick up more hours.  I have SS, small pension and possibly a small disability from the VA coming.  We're fine unless I need health care...playing roulette on that issue at the moment.

Obamacare/Romneycare is not cheap so I opted not to buy it...

I have found VA healthcare to be quite satisfactory.  Got a pair of titanium hips and a hiatel hernia repair that are/were as good as anything available on the outside.  About a month ago I got my knees shot up with something callel synvis and I'm almost pain-free for the first time in years.  Look into it.  If you qualify for a small disability, you certainly qualify for healthcare.

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 26, 2019, 08:29:58 AM
If you qualify for a small disability, you certainly qualify for healthcare.

Crusader Rabbit

This year, my income was way too high for VA medical coverage even being unemployed since April.  My unemployment was $800 a week.  Next year it's still going to be close.  Since I'm a non combat, single hitch Vet, my local VA guy says my bennies are pretty limited.  He suggested the hearing exam for a small disability payment.  I went to Boston last week for the exam.

I was able to visit something I've been wanting to see however.  I'll post some pics on another thread.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Solus on October 26, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
VA Health Care  ***

Was eligible for it when I was discharged after 3 years service on June 4th, 1968, but always had health coverage through my work and felt I'd not take advantage of it and reduce funds available for Vets who had no other coverage.

After I was "down sized" at age 62 in Jan of 2009, I applied and found that changes from when I was first eligible after discharge had added an income component.  I was still qualified but had a co-pay that I would not have had if I can signed up way back then. 

Lesson I learned.  If you have any "benefit" grab it while it is available and forget any "others might need it more" charitable thinking because that good will won't be offered to you.

 


Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 26, 2019, 09:14:30 AM
Cabela's does offer part timers health, vision and dental coverage after 90 days.  I'm sure it probably has more to offer so I'll buy into that for sure.

Lowe's had a plan for part timers as well that was pretty cheap including life, casualty, health, dental, vision and it was quite affordable.  Far cheaper than the Romneycare that wants $500/month with a $3000 deductible.  I'll look further into VA care once I've established a consistent income stream.

With the exception of a bad attitude, my health isn't too bad...
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 28, 2019, 08:18:00 AM
I have found VA healthcare to be quite satisfactory.  Got a pair of titanium hips and a hiatel hernia repair that are/were as good as anything available on the outside.  About a month ago I got my knees shot up with something callel synvis and I'm almost pain-free for the first time in years.  Look into it.  If you qualify for a small disability, you certainly qualify for healthcare.

Crusader Rabbit


CR, I call it chicken juice  ;D
Synvisc (made of a naturally occurring substance called hyaluronic acid found in rooster combs) is good stuff if it works (sadly, some percentage of folks do not respond to the treatment). Synvisc is what helps my right knee stay relatively pain free except for a few times per year and then some Voltaren gel helps. I get one every six months...which reminds me, I need to call and make an appointment.

Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Timothy on October 30, 2019, 01:02:51 PM
Passed my drug test and background..

I gotta change my boring lifestyle!

:)
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on October 30, 2019, 01:56:42 PM
Passed my drug test and background..

I gotta change my boring lifestyle!

:)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I have used the VA for about 6 or 7 years. My current job (had for 3 years) does have insurance. I still use the VA. While scheduling came SUCK sometimes I have NEVER had a bad doctor or meet anyone that was not a pleasent person there. I do have small co-pays and I was in for just over 3 years. Only 3 years but I enjoyed them a lot.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: clarkemyers on July 01, 2020, 01:44:13 AM
VA is pretty good for old men with geriatric problems. Not so good most other people.

Rumored that Colt is getting back into the MSR/AR market middle of 2020 after Remington competition goes away.
Title: Re: Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 01, 2020, 10:25:19 AM
Colt is irrelevant. They haven't introduced a new product since the original Python.
Unless you want to count the American 2000 which they would prefer forgotten.
They don't even own the rights to their own guns.
All their intellectual properties were sold off decades ago.
Like Thompson Center, it's just a trade name now.
They aren't even that good at making their own products.
There are much better AR's and 1911's out there.