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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: WatchManUSA on January 14, 2013, 07:03:22 PM
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/ap-sources-new-york-has-tentative-deal-on-gun-control/
The new state legislation will:
* Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10
* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years
* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property
* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said.
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Use them or lose them .
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Tom,it may come to that.
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Tom,it may come to that.
I believe that it would be better for the Country in the long term if it did .
I have made more detailed posts on the subject, but in short the problems facing America today are not separate issues , but different faces of a single "progressive agenda" that is to deeply rooted to be dealt with within the system.
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New York Has Gun Deal, With Focus on Mental Ills
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/nyregion/new-york-legislators-hope-for-speedy-vote-on-gun-laws.html?_r=0
N.Y. Assembly Speaker Silver: ‘We Are Going To Ban Assault Weapons’
Among New Laws, Gun Owners Would Have To Renew License Every 5 Years
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/ap-sources-new-york-has-tentative-deal-on-gun-control/
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Communist Andrew Cuomo, and the rest of that whole bunch of freedom robbers can go F*#K themselves. No one in that state should sell or register anything firearms related. If they are not comfortable with breaking unconstitutional laws, pack up, sell, and move here to Arizona. We welcome follow gun owners. Your constitutional rights are more important than some piss ass job. Besides, what you'll save on taxes and living expenses supporting that communist government, you will more than make up for. I know coming from Chicago. Taxes and living expenses are unbelievably lower here. The weather is better as well, no damn hurricanes and freezing blizzards.
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I believe that it would be better for the Country in the long term if it did .
I have made more detailed posts on the subject, but in short the problems facing America today are not separate issues , but different faces of a single "progressive agenda" that is to deeply rooted to be dealt with within the system.
Chap by the name of Nikita Khrushchev made a comment when I was a lad. Anybody besides me and Tom remember this?
He said: We will bury you!
Apparently, he meant it.
His minions are digging the hole, and the sheeple are lining up to throw themselves in.
I weep for my country :'(
Crusader
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Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/bill-called-toughest-gun-control-package-in-nation-passed-by-new-york-state/#ixzz2I3NHdl9H
How do they enforce this? Knock on your door for a 'mag check'?
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Chap by the name of Nikita Khrushchev made a comment when I was a lad. Anybody besides me and Tom remember this?
He said: We will bury you!
Apparently, he meant it.
His minions are digging the hole, and the sheeple are lining up to throw themselves in.
I weep for my country :'(
Crusader
He also said something to the effect that they did not need to invade us to establish communism here.
We would do it to our selves one little bit at a time.
Do you notice that the CPUSA no longer runs candidates in elections ?
They don't have to, they just vote Democrat.
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I remember the statement. It included words that they would take a shovel and dig a deep grave. He later recanted....well, made his meaning more literal. He amended it to:
Khrushchev remarked in his speech in Yugoslavia, "I once said, 'We will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you."
I remember two other incidents with the man. His 'Shoe Banging" triad at the UN and his being refused entry to Disney Land by Walt himself.
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So much of IDPA or Three gun in New York. Who makes 7 round mags for Glocks?
I just can't believe the usually "smarter than everyone else" people in New York would stand for this.
Thank god for them lest we be lost in the woods.......... (bleeding sarcasm)
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I doubt it would happen, but I'd like to see a boycott of the firearms manufactures of NY government agencies.
I imagine the NYC police market alone is too big to give up.
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Since Bushmaster caved to the KY move to Chucky Schumers (sweetheart deal), and set up shop with Remington. (Ilion, NY), and Kimber makes pistols in Yonkers, are they now in violation of the law?
They ban internet sales of "AW"'s right?
I do not (heart) NY.
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Roger Pilon, the director of the Cato Institute’s Center for Constitutional Studies, added that, “Right now, there is an intense focus by the left on gun control legislation and therefore one imagines that overzealous prosecution might be in the cards.
“In the hands of an over-eager prosecutor, a citizen’s liberty can be very much at peril regardless of what statute might be in play," he said.
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Roger Pilon, the director of the Cato Institute’s Center for Constitutional Studies, added that, “Right now, there is an intense focus by the left on gun control legislation and therefore one imagines that overzealous prosecution might be in the cards.
“In the hands of an over-eager prosecutor, a citizen’s liberty can be very much at peril regardless of what statute might be in play," he said.
I will never set foot in New York. For me it ranks right up there with Mexico, J.A.S.T.A., (Just Another $h!thole To Avoid).
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Never liked NY.
Had to make monthly trips to corporate headquarters up there in the '80s.
I got the same "hair on the back of the neck" feeling in NY that I experienced in 1967 in Vietnam.
Make it a gun free zone.
I won't miss it.
Crusader
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Unfortunitly I have to travel to Ft Drum NY for work next week. Going to be interesting to see how things are going behind the iron curtain.
CD
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Well, maybe some NY sheriffs will have the honor and courage to step up and fulfill their oath of office.
It works against unconstitutional state laws as well federal.
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from ammoland.com
Stronger regulations on ammunition: Under the legislation, New York will have the strongest ban on high capacity magazines in the country, with a limit on capacity of seven rounds, down from the current limit of ten. The legislation includes a ban on possession of pre-1994 high capacity magazines, and will require owners to sell the banned magazines out of state within one year. Existing ten round magazines can be grandfathered in, but may only be loaded with 7 rounds.
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from ammoland.com
Stronger regulations on ammunition: Under the legislation, New York will have the strongest ban on high capacity magazines in the country, with a limit on capacity of seven rounds, down from the current limit of ten. The legislation includes a ban on possession of pre-1994 high capacity magazines, and will require owners to sell the banned magazines out of state within one year. Existing ten round magazines can be grandfathered in, but may only be loaded with 7 rounds.
Now that is funny....
The situation is so 'dire' that the 'honor system' is used for magazine capacity limits.
I bet outlaws will be rushing to purchase magazine plugs to limit capacity so they don't inadvertently break the law.
If this is a workable solution, why not just say you can own assault weapons, but you can't use them to kill innocent people.
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from ammoland.com
Stronger regulations on ammunition: Under the legislation, New York will have the strongest ban on high capacity magazines in the country, with a limit on capacity of seven rounds, down from the current limit of ten. The legislation includes a ban on possession of pre-1994 high capacity magazines, and will require owners to sell the banned magazines out of state within one year. Existing ten round magazines can be grandfathered in, but may only be loaded with 7 rounds.
Now that IS a loophole!
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Chip McCormick weighs in on the NY ban.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/chris-dumm/chip-mccormick-on-ny-mag-ban-ridiculous/
Chip McCormick has made standard-length 8-round 1911 magazine for decades. They go like stink, and I’ve used them myself for more than 15 years. Now, of course, they’re illegal in New York State. I talked to Chip briefly today about the NY Gun Ban . . .
What does The Man himself (pictured) have to say about Andrew Cuomo’s grand plan to save humanity? ”Ridiculous! My F350 diesel pickup is a lot more dangerous than a 1911, and I don’t see them banning those.”
Chip is right, but no idea seems to bizarre or too stupid for New York to try. Bloomberg already banned Big Gulps, so I suggest we don’t give Cuomo any more ideas.
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Assclowns.
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Just shows how Chip isn't looking at the big picture.
Sure, we would love to ban personal transportation and limit any travel to those means where our subjects movements can be tracked, but any fool knows we won't be able to do that until we take away their guns.
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This is just going to further divide this country. New York State is already losing "rich people" because of the tax structure the communists have created in that God awful state. Much like France has. It's the same with California. It has become the place to be from. Property taxes are driving many home owners out of Illinois. Between that, and a lot of the once plentiful jobs drying up there, they are in financial turmoil.
Soon these communist states are going to be composed of nothing but worthless freeloaders and government "workers", and no one to support them. That will be the end of their political dream. What happened in Wisconsin last year is just a taste of things to come. You can't force someone to live in a Democratic state. Especially if they have any money. They want to keep it too much. This is a train going 100 MPH down a dead end track. Andrew Cuomo just opened the throttle a little more yesterday. Keep your mags loaded.
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Can't keep them loaded,if I have 8 rounds in my 1911 magazine it makes me a felon... ::) ::)
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Can't keep them loaded,if I have 8 rounds in my 1911 magazine it makes me a felon... ::) ::)
I think we have missed the obvious solution to the whole Magazine Capacity concerns.
Simply keep making the largest capacity for each weapon and put a Sign (sticker) on them saying
"If his magazine is to be used in a firearm for illegal purposes, do not load it to more than 10 rounds (7 in NY) under penalty of law."
Then enjoy the rest of the conversation if a Liberal asks if we really believe a criminal is going to obey that law. :D :D :D
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Now,
Can you do 7 in the mag and one in the pipe? How does that play out?
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Can I load 14 rds and carry an empty mag. Do they let you "average"?
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Now,
Can you do 7 in the mag and one in the pipe? How does that play out?
The way I read it is you can only have 7 in the Mag.it says nothing about one in the chamber,so that's how my 1911 is loaded,for a total of 8 rounds at the ready,I have also added 2 more magazines to my belt,so now instead of carrying 25 round on me I'll have 36...It pays to be prepared... ;D ;D
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Remember that Siamese 1911?
2 of everything. Might be time to revisit that concept. . Not exactly, but a firearm fed by two magazines
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/ap-sources-new-york-has-tentative-deal-on-gun-control/
The new state legislation will:
* Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10
hmm so 3 less rounds will make is soo much safer... ok..
* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years
do you need a licence there??
I have to renew my licence every year as it is.. as i need to justify my H class ;)
* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
good, should be like that any way.
* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property
not going to stop crazy..
* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers
no surprise there :-/
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said.
think they been chatting to JWH again.....
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Can't keep them loaded,if I have 8 rounds in my 1911 magazine it makes me a felon... ::) ::)
Yeah..... that extra 'evil round' at the end makes the rest less safe.