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Title: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 19, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
...on my way to Michigan, and thought I'd stop by the CMP store.  A nice little M1 Carbine (1944 Inland) caught my eye.  So I called my wife and asked if I could buy a rifle (yes I did, since it's our money).  She immediately said "get it," followed by "you can teach me how to shoot it."

What really caught my eye on this particular one was the pattern of the wood grain.  It looks like it's tiger striped.  Very pretty.  I need to oil the stock when I get it home, but don't know what to use.  Should I sand it first, even though there are hardly any marks in the wood?  What kind of oil will accentuate the grain pattern?

Any helpful hints would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 19, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
If you want it to look original, I think they used boiled Linseed Oil and/or Tung oil on military stocks.


Here is some info on restoring military rifle stocks.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/stockfinish/index.asp


We need pictures, please.   ;)
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: billt on November 19, 2009, 05:41:20 PM
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5950/ruger10222ql.jpg)

This is a Walnut stocked Ruger 10/22 I bought new back in 1972 that has some nice tiger striping on it. All I've ever used on it is an oily gun wipe from time to time. Mostly because out here in Arizona the humidity is so low it keeps the wood from giving up too much moisture. It does help to bring out the grain a little better. It looks way better than it shows. The picture is kind of crappy.  Bill T.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 19, 2009, 05:41:56 PM
Linseed oil, you can get it at the hardware store. but go to a REAL hardware store not Home depot or Lowes.
They won't know what you are talking about unless you find an old timer working there.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Timothy on November 19, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
Linseed oil (aka flax seed oil) can spontaneously combust if the rag is bunched up when it begins to dry.  Be carefull how you discard the rags or anything that may become soaked in the oil.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: TAB on November 19, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Linseed oil, you can get it at the hardware store. but go to a REAL hardware store not Home depot or Lowes.
They won't know what you are talking about unless you find an old timer working there.

make sure you get boiled linseed oil... other wise it will never dry.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 19, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
Thanks everyone.  Can't wait to get home and get started!
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: alfsauve on November 20, 2009, 05:36:01 AM
Mine had been well used and had layers upon layers of "junk".   I think some of it was floor wax and some of it, I'm sure, was shoe polish.  I also had some divots that needed removing so I did some extensive sanding.

I used pure tung oil, not a tung oil finish in light coats.  Rubbed in then allowed to dry in a warm dry place (furnace room) between coats.    Linseed oil will darken with age more so than tung oil.   
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Pathfinder on November 20, 2009, 05:59:19 AM
Mine had been well used and had layers upon layers of "junk".   I think some of it was floor wax and some of it, I'm sure, was shoe polish.  I also had some divots that needed removing so I did some extensive sanding.

I used pure tung oil, not a tung oil finish in light coats.  Rubbed in then allowed to dry in a warm dry place (furnace room) between coats.    Linseed oil will darken with age more so than tung oil.   

Not to mention tung oil is a whole lot safer than linseed oil. Seriously. Rags with linseed oil has burned whole houses down. One even made it to the back page of the Fine Homebuilding magazine, kind of a lesson learned. A couple had pretty much hand-built a cabin, hand oiled the floors before moving in. The woke up on moving day to discover that somehow the oil had combusted (a missed rag maybe?) and the hand-built house was a goner.

There is little safe way of storing rags with linseed oil other than intentionally burning them. Every other way carries risk.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 20, 2009, 06:17:45 AM
Not to mention tung oil is a whole lot safer than linseed oil. Seriously. Rags with linseed oil has burned whole houses down. One even made it to the back page of the Fine Homebuilding magazine, kind of a lesson learned. A couple had pretty much hand-built a cabin, hand oiled the floors before moving in. The woke up on moving day to discover that somehow the oil had combusted (a missed rag maybe?) and the hand-built house was a goner.

There is little safe way of storing rags with linseed oil other than intentionally burning them. Every other way carries risk.

Thanks for the advice!  I've been reading about the dangers of linseed oil.  Plus, I've read that the manufacturers switched from linseed oil to tung oil in 1942.  Seeing as my carbine was manufactured in 1944, I suppose tung oil would be more appropriate.  Of course I believe everything I read online  ;D.

Now, what's a good source for magazines for my new acquisition?
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: blackwolfe on November 20, 2009, 08:37:24 AM
Magazines:
http://www.rguns.net/gunparts/magazines-rifle.shtml        scroll way down for M-1 carbine

http://www.aimsurplus.com/      I didn't see any listed, but I didn't have time to search much.

I have dealt with both companies in the past with good results and would do so again.  I prefer AIM Surplus over Rguns.  I would give aim a call to see if they have any or are getting any in.  They had some in the recent past.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Hazcat on November 20, 2009, 08:45:26 AM
I have dealt with these guys and was satisfied.

http://www.ammoclip.com/M/m1_carbine_main.htm
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Big Frank on November 20, 2009, 02:35:21 PM
ammoCLIP.com? Give em hell, Haz.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Hazcat on November 20, 2009, 02:44:09 PM
ammoCLIP.com? Give em hell, Haz.

Yeah, I know.  I actually brought it up to him.  He said it's cause most people use the 'c' word more than 'mag'.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 22, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
Thought I'd post some quick and dirty (no pun intended) photos of my new acquisition before cleaning in up.  More to follow.

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/_B220182.jpg)

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/_B220168.jpg)
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 22, 2009, 08:54:25 PM
WOW....look at that grain pattern..... very nice....I got a feeling that it's gonna be one very nice project.
Congrats on the find.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: ellis4538 on November 23, 2009, 01:40:16 PM
Try removing dents in the stock by placing a damp rag over the spot and using a hot iron to raise the low spot.  Sand and refinish.

Good luck

Richard
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 23, 2009, 02:17:52 PM
Try removing dents in the stock by placing a damp rag over the spot and using a hot iron to raise the low spot.  Sand and refinish.

Good luck

Richard

Thanks, Richard.  I'll give that a try.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: TAB on November 23, 2009, 04:04:16 PM
A tea cettle also works... just get one with out a whissle...
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Pathfinder on November 23, 2009, 08:31:32 PM
A tea cettle also works... just get one with out a whissle...

Hmmm. I wonder if a tea cettle would work, would a tea kettle work even better?

Of course it would only be able to have a whistle, they're just not as fancy as those that come with a whissle.  ::)


 ;)
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: Walter45Auto on November 26, 2009, 10:43:09 PM
Sweet Carbine! :D
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on November 27, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
Finally made it to the range this afternoon, and...
























 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on March 15, 2010, 02:27:19 PM
(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/_3150824.jpg)

Finally bought a sling and oiler, and they came today.
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: shooter32 on March 15, 2010, 02:29:38 PM
Nice!!   8) 


She is ready to go!
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 15, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
That is one beautiful rifle.....I really like the pattern on that stock......hard to beat 'steel & wood'.......WOW!!!
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on March 15, 2010, 02:50:09 PM
I was in Dunham's getting ignored today, and noticed that they have a sale on WASRs.  I believe they're from Century International, and the sale price is $289.  Is that good?  Should I go for it, assuming I can ever get someone to wait on me at the store?

Thanks,
Brian
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: BAC on March 15, 2010, 02:58:57 PM
I was in Dunham's getting ignored today, and noticed that they have a sale on WASRs.  I believe they're from Century International, and the sale price is $289.  Is that good?  Should I go for it, assuming I can ever get someone to wait on me at the store?

Thanks,
Brian

Hey look, I drifted my own thread!
Title: Re: So I was driving past Camp Perry today...
Post by: shooter32 on March 15, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Hey look, I drifted my own thread!


Talent ;D