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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: alfsauve on July 17, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
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I saw the poster at the range this week. And while I was shooting the GSSF match on Saturday, they nongentlatly said they had one in the rental inventory. I didn't have time to fire it, but did play with it before someone else took it in for a test drive.
Cool. Like the longer Glocks, specifically made as a competition gun for Production Class. And I'm sure there'll be mods to use it in Limited soon.
Trouble is they're not shipping yet. Sneaky people as SA have been real crafty by sending the first production runs to all major gun stores with ranges with the stipulation to use them for rental only. I may have to get on the list with 10% down.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/compseries.html (http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/compseries.html)
(http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/xdm-tfb.jpg)
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Looking more like a Han Solo Blaster all the time,..... ;)
Not a huge fan of ported barrels for SD carry,....(although effective),....but for a whoop ass pistol Springfield's motto is:
"Bring Enough Gun",...
::)
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nice thing about a ported barrel is if a BG tries to grab the slide and take it away from you , you can pull the trigger and it will turn his hand into ground meat with the muzzle blast... ;D
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Looking more like a Han Solo Blaster all the time,..... ;)
Not a huge fan of ported barrels for SD carry,....(although effective),....but for a whoop ass pistol Springfield's motto is:
"Bring Enough Gun",...
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TW,
The barrel is not ported, just the slide is cut out to lighten it.
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Here's a video of Rob Leatham shooting the new pistol:
Even though he had a hand in its design, please note some of the mods he made to the pistol already.... :)
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Looking more like a Han Solo Blaster all the time,..... ;)
Not a huge fan of ported barrels for SD carry,....(although effective),....but for a whoop ass pistol Springfield's motto is:
"Bring Enough Gun",...
::)
I know what you mean, some futuristic thing from a Galaxy far far away.
But I can't resist a little trivia ;D
Han Solo's "Blaster" was actually a modified 1896 Mauser Broomhandle.
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First thing that popped into mind was "Mall ninja!", then "Let me guess, called something close to "Stealth 2000 Xtreme Mountain Dew Terminator Eliminator XD"?"
Without looking, it'll be available in 9mil, .40, and airsoft... The usual requisites.
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First thing that popped into mind was "Mall ninja!", then "Let me guess, called something close to "Stealth 2000 Xtreme Mountain Dew Terminator Eliminator XD"?"
Without looking, it'll be available in 9mil, .40, and airsoft... The usual requisites.
You are wrong, wrong , wrong !
You left out .45 ;D
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THAT thing will hold together with .45?!? :o
But hows a Ninja supposed to get by with only one rail? ;D ;D ;D
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1051247708653&id=641abe2f55ed92ecc1fdca46788631fb&url=http%3a%2f%2fimg504.imageshack.us%2fimg504%2f65%2fsamfisherje7056yr7.jpg)
CURSES TO YOU SPRINGFIELD!!! ;D
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Got to fondle one today. I have small hands and regularly shoot a Para P14 so the grip was good for me. Guy at the GS said the trigger hadn't had anything done to it so I didn't ask to snap it so I don't know about it. Red FO needs to be changed to green for my old eyes. For $650+ it's not for me.
FWIW
Richard
PS: He is GOOD but the first run shot cold is what counts to me! JMHO
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For $650+ it's not for me. FWIW Richard
Me either. Springfield is starting to creep into H&K price territory with these things. That's saying a lot when you consider the fact when they first bought the rights to manufacture the original Springfield XD off the design of the HS-2000, that pistol sold most everywhere for around $250.00.
Yes, this gun has some newer bells and whistles, but it's still the same basic design. Not much different than comparing a dressed up 1911 to a standard Government Model. It will sell because the XD has a lot of affectionadios, but it does give some new ammo to the Glock bashers when they start crying about how much profit Gaston makes on every gun he sells. Bill T.
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I don't bash
Chevrolet's I mean, Glocks.
Got to shoot the XD 525 today. Springfield (very smart marketing) sold the first production run to all the ranges with the stipulation they be used as rentals. I ran 30 rounds through it. I'd have run more but they didn't have a reloading tool for it and mine, for the XD(plain-noM) didn't fit. Loading by thumb sucks.
Very smooth. Very good sights. Was easy to punch out the 10 ring on a D2 target at 10 yards. As soon as funds are available it will become my "production" gun.
And on a side note: At the range today, shooting beside me, was Slick's Sharp Shooter. She's #1 ranked Lady's Jr shooter in the world of SASS! She was working on her 1911 skills for the Wild Bunch, and with her G34 for USPSA. Showed her the XD 525 and she shared some stories from the world championships. All in all a good afternoon.
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When SA makes the XD's in the good old US of A, I'll be interested.
Until then, they can kiss my butt! YMMV...mine's unwavering!
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Hey I try to balance cost and quality when I buy. It's almost impossible to buy only American. Well I guess if you don't have a TV or a computer or a cell phone or a radio you might get buy. Each of has issues with one or another manufacturer. Mine is with Ruger. Others are with Glock. And obviously some with SA. I've looked at and shot most of the options for production class. S&W, Glock, H&K, Sig, etc. The XD line fits my needs at a price I'm willing to pay.
Most of my handguns are US made, by an almost 8/1 ratio. That's my rationalization, and I'm sticking with it.
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I get tired of the lie that this is a SA product. They are doing nothing but marketing a Croatian product.
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I get tired of the lie that this is a SA product. They are doing nothing but marketing a Croatian product.
I don't think they are trying to trick you. It does have "CROATIA" stamped on the slide.
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Maybe I'm being a bit too harsh but I'm a guy who has a limited resource for firearms. I have "X" amount of money to spend and the "X" has very few zeros. I work in an industry that's dieing and tired of companies that are capable of providing an American made product but choose to make it elsewhere.
Take GE....they're about to close a division in WI to move it to Beijing by Jeff Immelt, the Chairman of GE, who's also the Czar of Obamas jobs creation whatchamacallit commitee...and we wonder why GE paid NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES LAST YEAR!
Have I said lately.....f..k you Mr President!
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Just to provide some balance here...Do any of you own Taurus firearms? Rock Island Armory? HK? Sig Sauer? CZ? FN? Benelli? Beretta? Para Ordnance before they moved from Canada? Glock?
Just wondering.....
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Just to provide some balance here...Do any of you own Taurus firearms? Rock Island Armory? HK? Sig Sauer? CZ? FN? Benelli? Beretta? Para Ordnance before they moved from Canada? Glock?
Just wondering.....
No I don't but those are foreign companies who build firearms in other countries. Springfield Armory is an American company building firearms in foreign countries...
In fact, Sig, Beretta, Glock and FN do build guns domestically...
for full disclosure, I own a Para Ordnance 1911 made in Ft. Lauderdale, a 1969 Remington 870 and a 1903 Savage pump rifle. My kid has a Sig made in Germany she bought used and a Remington 870.
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Timothy,
I understand your frustration about the off-shoring of American jobs. It would take way too long to go into the "big explanation" here, but this has been building for at least 30 - 40 years. I'll leave it at the situation here in the US is the result of a coordinated effort to move our economy to a service-oriented economy and thereby making us dependent on other countries to give to us things we used to provide for ourselves.
Holding some animus against SA, or S&W for that matter, will not make a tinker's damn in the long run. If we vote for people who really support free trade and not this crony collectivist BS that's called free trade, we might be able to turn this around.
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I'm in my mid fifties. I've seen the degradation of American manufacturing my entire life. Without sounding like a prick, which isn't easy for me, I don't need the "big explanation".
America as I knew it in the sixties is gone. We have to fight for what's left or we're doomed and all I have left is a tinkers damn.
I respect everyone's opinion, even if it's misguided.
Chrysler is now an Italian owned company that only lost the taxpayer 1.2 billion dollars. How much will GM cost us? They will never see another dime of my money for as long as I take a breath. There are things that I cannot buy domestically but those things that I can afford, I will!
Peace....do what ever you want!
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As a matter of fact, I DO own a Rock Island 1911.
There are 2 reasons, I could afford it, and I would rather buy from a foreign company that manufactures in a foreign country than with an American company that does.
We don't need "the big explanation". Many of us have understood quite well while we were watching it happen.
We still think it is f*cking stupid.
It is idiocy to send our jobs overseas so we have to kiss somebodies ass for the manufacturing we used to do on technologies invented here.
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Looking more like a Han Solo Blaster all the time,..... ;)
Not a huge fan of ported barrels for SD carry,....(although effective),....but for a whoop ass pistol Springfield's motto is:
"Bring Enough Gun",...
::)
Han shot first.
(Just had to.....)
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As a matter of fact, I DO own a Rock Island 1911.
There are 2 reasons, I could afford it, and I would rather buy from a foreign company that manufactures in a foreign country than with an American company that does.
We don't need "the big explanation". Many of us have understood quite well while we were watching it happen.
We still think it is f*cking stupid.
It is idiocy to send our jobs overseas so we have to kiss somebodies ass for the manufacturing we used to do on technologies invented here.
This just speaks volumes on so many levels.....Thanks for the post.....
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......Got to shoot the XD 525 today. Springfield (very smart marketing) sold the first production run to all the ranges with the stipulation they be used as rentals. I ran 30 rounds through it. I'd have run more but they didn't have a reloading tool for it and mine, for the XD(plain-noM) didn't fit. Loading by thumb sucks......Very smooth. Very good sights. Was easy to punch out the 10 ring on a D2 target at 10 yards. As soon as funds are available it will become my "production" gun.
Back to the original point of this thread:
That's all good news, Alf. There is a SA dealer down the street from me that has a range. I think I'll stop by this weekend to see if they have one for rent.....And one can bet a .40 cal is probably not too far off.
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Again, very smart marketing by getting to the rental counters first. Here's a link that will tell you if your range should have one.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/rangefinder/ (http://www.springfield-armory.com/rangefinder/)
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What guns does Glock produce in the US? I thought they all came from overseas.
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What guns does Glock produce in the US? I thought they all came from overseas.
All of them as far as I know, except for the .380 that you can't have.
Marietta Ga. IIRC.
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All of them as far as I know, except for the .380 that you can't have.
Marietta Ga. IIRC.
Smyrna actually just south of Marietta.
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Got a chance to shoot one today at the range and it is a fine pistol; I especially liked the trigger! I found it to be very smooth on the uptake and and the reset was well placed. I was very comfortable shooting it and I had pretty decent groups shooting at 15 yards (max at this range). The way the gun was setup, I would have changed backstraps if they were available though.
My bottom line on this pistol is it is not enough to draw someone committed to other platforms (Glock, S&W, etc) from switching. But anyone who wants to get into competition and doesn't have a strong preference for other platforms should consider this pistol as a very good place to start.
-FA
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one thing I like about the xdms is, you don't have to pull the trigger to take the gun apart. No other striker fired gun has that( that I know of anyways)
While yes its a very small thing, and if you fallow the safety rules its no big deal, but what if you have a malfunction and you need to take the gun apart.? There is als those that don't fallow the safety rules... tons of them out there.
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Saw one for sale today at the gun show. $699. I guess that's about right compared to a G34 when you consider the aftermarket stuff you'd need for the Glock.
I'm thinking I'll suffer with my XD tactical for awhile longer. Though it would be nice.
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My appoligies if the pic dosen't come first atempt to post attachment.
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one thing I like about the xdms is, you don't have to pull the trigger to take the gun apart. No other striker fired gun has that( that I know of anyways)
While yes its a very small thing, and if you fallow the safety rules its no big deal, but what if you have a malfunction and you need to take the gun apart.? There is als those that don't fallow the safety rules... tons of them out there.
You can take a Glock apart without pulling the trigger....it is just a little bit more complicated....and would be extremely risky with a round in the chamber.
You lock the slide open, then just in front of the striker extension you will see a black sleeve. Move the sleeve forward with a small pin and you can then remove the back plate which allows you to remove the striker and slide.
Basically you are following the disassemble procedure for the slide before removing it from the frame.
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I know a few people were waiting for the 45ACP 5.25 to make Major, I hadn't heard (may have been because of the choas of late) that it was out and stumbled on one at the gun show last weekend.
My mouth fell open and must have been obvious as the guy behind the counter pounced... never been so tempted....
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I know a few people were waiting for the 45ACP 5.25 to make Major, I hadn't heard (may have been because of the choas of late) that it was out and stumbled on one at the gun show last weekend.
My mouth fell open and must have been obvious as the guy behind the counter pounced... never been so tempted....
This is your conscience >:(
This is your conscience with an XD (m) .45 ;D
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This is your conscience >:(
This is your conscience with an XD (m) .45 ;D
I've bought an XDM in .45 with my Christmas money, wife was NOT happy. But I want a 5.25" for shooting competitions in the future. :D Maybe with my Christmas money this year. But I need an AR, a 9mm for the girls to shoot, a 22 handgun for the girls to shoot, and don't forget the shot gun needs sights and a light. I need a plan....
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It's easier to get forgiveness than to get permission.
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Not around my house...I get neither! LOL
Richard
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Not around my house...I get neither! LOL
Richard
One way you end up with no permission and no forgiveness.
The other way you end up with no permission and no forgiveness and with an XDM .45
I see an advantage in one course of action.
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Might go with the 9mm. LOL
Richard
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One way you end up with no permission and no forgiveness.
The other way you end up with no permission and no forgiveness and with an XDM .45
I see an advantage in one course of action.
Pretty much what I did last yeat, but she eventually forgave me :D
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Cool. I will stick with the Glock 34/35.