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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Roy Hill on February 07, 2009, 10:43:56 PM
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A good student in a Marine ROTC unit had some pieces of wood, wrapped in duct tape, that were shaped like rifles in her car in the school parking lot.
Administrators suspended her for 10 days.
And check out all those comments at the bottom of the page.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=109380&catid=339
By the way. This is the exact same school district that caused the uproar when one of its brilliant teachers lectured students that Bush is exactly like Adolf Hitler.
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This rates right up there with the little boy who got expelled for drawing a picture of a gun >:(
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Where is the ACLU in this ??? I believe that it is time we start calling on those liberal bastards to stand up for us in this time of prejudice and abuse against us as law abiding citizens.
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Where is the ACLU in this ??? I believe that it is time we start calling on those liberal bastards to stand up for us in this time of prejudice and abuse against us as law abiding citizens.
Didn't you know, according to the ACLU the bill of rights only contains 9 articles :(
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This is state law, stupid as it is. A few years back a student was suspended for the whole school year for having a laser pointer shaped like a gun that was the size of your thumb (action figure sized). Welcome to the wonderful world of ZERO tolerance, making it so that no judgment can be used by anyone.
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Sign the principal up to get a subscription to handgun magazine...and have it sent to the school. ;)
Chaos! works wonders!
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She needs formally drop out of school, take the GED, and then take some college courses while waiting for her freshman class at the MMA.
This ends up being a black mark against the school (a drop out) at the same time it puts her ahead of her classmates.
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she said she needed a diploma for entry into the Merchant Marines, A GED will not do. A GED may very well preclude her for joining the Merchant Marines. If she can't graduate at the end of the year, she will have to take Adult Basic Education classes and actually finish her school and get a diploma.
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Web site for Douglas County Young Marines to offer support for this young lady:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communitarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communitarianism)
Web site for Cherry Creek Schools (for politely posting your support for one of their students that is trying to better herself through very honorable activities):
http://www.ccsd.k12.co.us/ (http://www.ccsd.k12.co.us/)
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Everytime I hear these "zero" tolerance laws, I wonder if educators, admin, faculty, who are this stupid, can have the same standard apply and get them expelled.
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I emailed both the Superintendent, and the board. Lets light um up!!!
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This is state law, stupid as it is. A few years back a student was suspended for the whole school year for having a laser pointer shaped like a gun that was the size of your thumb (action figure sized). Welcome to the wonderful world of ZERO tolerance, making it so that no judgment can be used by anyone.
Yes, ZERO Tolerance.........for administrators who don't want to HAVE to actually MAKE an EDUCATED DECISION.
Like the situation I had posted about before where a kid in a nearby county was kicked out of school six weeks before graduation for having a steak knife (left over from a camping trip) in the bed of his pickup during a routine parking lot check.
He was an honor student that was in the running for Valedictorian and was booted due to a zero tolerance policy, with no opportunity for an appeal. His only options were to return the next school year and repeat the classes he needed to graduate, or settle for a GED.
Boy this kind of idiocy burns my ass worse than a 3' high fire.
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I emailed both the Superintendent, and the board. Lets light um up!!!
+1
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she said she needed a diploma for entry into the Merchant Marines, A GED will not do.
I'm not so sure. My former high school intern is now in the AF Academy and has neither a high school "Diploma" nor a GED. He was home schooled. The only "paper" he has is one signed by his mother. (Well that an a 90+ percentile on the SAT.) The GED is suppose to be an "equivalency". My best advise to the young lady is to talk to her admissions counselor at MMA to get a definitive ruling.
My point being there are alternatives. People do not have to bow down to the peda"god"ues of public education. After seeing 3 sons through high school over a 14 year period and being on campus practically everyday as a volunteer: I developed a zero tolerance for brain dead educators.
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Didn't you know, according to the ACLU the bill of rights only contains 8 articles :(
fixed... they don't see the 10a either.
If she was pointing it at students like it was a rilfe, or using it as a club, then she should get the full 10 days( maybe more). If not, what a load of BS.
You only need a GED and pass the water survial school( 2 day class, one classroom the other practical in a pool) to become a merchant marine. The class is very easy, Any able bodied person can pass it. The hardest part is showing that you can flip over a life raft while in the water.
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fixed... they don't see the 10a either.
If she was pointing it at students like it was a rilfe, or using it as a club, then she should get the full 10 days( maybe more). If not, what a load of BS.
You only need a GED and pass the water survial school( 2 day class, one classroom the other practical in a pool) to become a merchant marine. The class is very easy, Any able bodied person can pass it. The hardest part is showing that you can flip over a life raft while in the water.
TAB, She's going for the ACADEMY, 4 year school, may have higher standards than for a deck hand.
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It might, i was just pointing out that the merant marine is not hard to get into, If you think about it, its not a bad gig. just under 50k a year,full bennies, no exps. If you didn't want to go to college, you could spend 5 years there and walk away with 200k. Very few jobs out there where you could save 200k in 5 years, right out of school.( rather it be GED or PhD) Only part that sucks is your always working and on the ship. Still I'd trade 5 years working to put 200k in the bank.
That brings me to my next point... never trust an ROC officer... but I'm sure you already know that.
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"That brings me to my next point... never trust an ROC officer... but I'm sure you already know that."
;D READ AND UNDERSTAND CLEARLY BEFORE SIGNING !!!!! ;D
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there are some positions in which a GED is NOT enough. sure you get into whichever service you want with a GED, but not necessarily the position. Which graduation requirement (GED, Diploma or nothing) and ASVAB score are good predictors of performance in the various gov't services. I am sure she has her eye on a particular specialty in which a GED will not let her qualify for the specialty. So yeah a GED is good enough to get into the particular service but...
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Isn't there some sort of High School Equivolency test for home schoolers? If there wasn't, how do so many of them get into universities. I personally know of 3 individuals in 3 different universities.
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Isn't there some sort of High School Equivolency test for home schoolers? If there wasn't, how do so many of them get into universities. I personally know of 3 individuals in 3 different universities.
Schools don't really look at the HS transcipts... they look at test scores(sat, act) and the entrance eassay.
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Yes, ZERO Tolerance.........for administrators who don't want to HAVE to actually MAKE an EDUCATED DECISION.
Like the situation I had posted about before where a kid in a nearby county was kicked out of school six weeks before graduation for having a steak knife (left over from a camping trip) in the bed of his pickup during a routine parking lot check.
He was an honor student that was in the running for Valedictorian and was booted due to a zero tolerance policy, with no opportunity for an appeal. His only options were to return the next school year and repeat the classes he needed to graduate, or settle for a GED.
Boy this kind of idiocy burns my ass worse than a 3' high fire.
This one I would have fought with a
AMENDMENT IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
both had resonable expectations of privacy.
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if it was a in plane site, it does not matter.
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there is often an exception for minors on school grounds as the school is considered to be a proxy guardian during school hours.
As for the guy in the AF academy there are always waivers, and that is what alf's acquaintance was admitted under. And I am sure this person can, and may be, admitted with, a waiver, if she decides not to pursue her diploma.
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what is the school's policy on hockey sticks and baseball bats?
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The whole damned world is full of total idiots with absolutely no common sense.... >:(
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"I'd like to take a "legal" baseball bat to all of them...
( as you can tell.. I have about had my belly full of frickin stupid rules and regulations that don't make a lick of sense! )
stupid stupid stupid!!!
No wonder people snap and start committing harry carry...........
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Just got done listening to MB's podcast, He wasn't impressed either.
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well anyone with 1/4 brain wouldn't be either.............
Doesn't ANYONE anymore that holds any kind of executive position have the ability to think for themselves and have the balls to actually wonder about the stupid go with the flow of the almighty rule book group decisions that are made?
My god.. It really takes a total moron to NOT be able to make a common sense decision based on each individual circumstance.
There I go again. I have ranted and raved off and on all day long...
sighhhhhhhhhhhhh... back to my cage........... 8)
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Don't feel bad, its not just schools, its also in health care.
My great uncle passed away the end of last year. While dieing of colon cancer, going thru withdarwls from methadone( which he was on for pain) he made the comment, " I want to die" which anyone with have a brain would realize that the comment was said do to the state he was in. Well guess what, they "51-50" him( in CA all it takes is 2 docs to say your nuts and you lose your rights, no court, no nothing... yeah its bull SHIT), put him on a 3 day hold and made him a prohibated person. So I had to fly there and take "possesion" of all his guns. After 24 hour in the county lunny ben( LA county at that...) the doctors there released him. he died before we got his prohibated statis removed.
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I was thinking today ( yes it hurts to ) about sending a letter to the admin of the school
( I posted this in another thread here (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=5130.msg60871#msg60871) )
( I will also send an email to the Administration if you have any email address)
To the Administration of Cherokee Trail High School
I am saddened to hear that Marie Morrow has been suspended
from my understanding she was suspended for having Military Drill Practice equipment in her car that was Parked off Campus grounds
and was suspended as they were deemed dangerous weapons. I can not understand how Drill Practice Props are considered to be dangerous weapons.
this is appalling, Miss Morrow is a pillar of the community and should be applaud for getting out there by being apart of the Douglas County Young Marines
you may not know that the Douglas County Young Marines is a group dedicated to teaching leadership and life skills. something that will no doubt make her an exceptional student for your school in a time when discipline in a lot of people is lacking.
the school should be proud to have a student in Miss Morrow, she is a roll model for other students not going down the track of expelling this student, which will reunion her chance to finish school and then stop her from getting in to Merchant Marine Academy
I urge you to reverse your decision and re-instate Miss Morrow back into the school
Regards
Phil
or something like that
also if anyone wants to use that or edit it for there letters please feel free to and let me know what you think
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hmmmm
just saw this on there web site
CTHS is dedicated to achieving the district mission to inspire every student to think, to learn, to achieve, and to care. Our school mission captures the essence of our unique approach:
"Our actions will ignite the genius and nurture the goodness within us all."
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if it was a in plane site, it does not matter.
That is why you have tinted windows. ;)
I think you meant plain sight, as in visible to the unaided eye in clear view. Rather than "plane site" meaning location for keeping aircraft or wood leveling equipment.
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That is why you have tinted windows. ;)
I think you meant plain sight, as in visible to the unaided eye in clear view. Rather than "plane site" meaning location for keeping aircraft or wood leveling equipment.
OK....now I'm officially cracked up.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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OK....now I'm officially cracked up.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Read the book Eats Shoots and Leaves, you will find that funny.
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;D Hey I just found a picture of that districts Superintendent!
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Actually it all fits, Bonehead rules made up by Bonehead administrations for Bonehead administrators to inforce.. What else might they have to do to make themselves feel important. Certainaly not educate our children ! ::)
P.S. Notice the common denominator here, Duh ;D
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Surprisingly, it looks like some common sense has prevailed.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11698834 (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11698834)
Aurora student avoids expulsion over fake guns
Marie Morrow is heading back to class after the superintendent of the Cherry Creek School District decided that she has paid enough for bringing fake rifles to school.
"I'm just glad to be back in school and have this whole thing over with," said Morrow, a senior at Cherokee Trail High School in Aurora. "I expected to get the minimum sentence, which is what they did."
Morrow was suspended Feb. 5 after other students saw the props in her vehicle and notified school officials.
Morrow is commander of the drill team of the Douglas County Young Marines, which teaches leadership and life skills.
The group practices at Lutheran High School in Parker and has been preparing for a national drill-team competition in April at the Air Force Academy. Morrow said she didn't realize she had taken the fake rifles to school with her.
Morrow will be going back to school Wednesday because Monday is Presidents Day and Tuesday is a scheduled day off for everyone. In the meantime, she plans to catch up on her homework.