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Title: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 20, 2009, 07:20:19 PM
I see very many photos of guns on this and other forums that need significant improvement. They are either out of focus, washed out, too dark or have invading feet in them :). I also have my Google Reader pointed to Oleg Volk's blog. Since he is a professional photographer, the quality is superb as to be expected. It shows. That is why companies pay him money. But I asked a while back on his blog for some tips, just to lift the general level of us amatuers up a bit, and he blew me off. :( Oh well, that's life and it's his right.

So in furtherance of bringing everyone up to a somewhat higher level of photographic artistry I suggest the following: Why don't we post our best photo on this thread, regardless of firearm type. When you do, please include a description of what camera you were using and its settings and also how you lit the scene. If we are cordial to each other we might even suggest how to reshoot the picture and then post again so as to see the improvement.

Anyone up for this?
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Rob Pincus on March 20, 2009, 07:29:35 PM
FWIW, I do a lot of photo work (amateur) and I think a lot of the problems come from lighting issues and reflections... I specifically don't do a lot of gun glamour shots because they are difficult.

 I know Oleg and he has the right gear & lighting to bring out his skill and knowledge. If I really need to take a decent picture of a gun for a magazine article or something, I try to do it outside in natural light with no glare on the gun from direct sun.  Here's one that I took on the fly last year during a course of a very cool commemorative Glock that a student & friend was using. I've taken no less than 10,000 pics in the last year during courses (really... 6+ frames-per-second helps and there are a lot of learning points captured during those bursts....), this is one of the few "good" gun pics I actually got..... and I probably took 20-30 trying to get it.
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(http://www.icetraining.us/img/photo_galleries/78/800_NU Gun.jpg)
Cannon 40D, Portrait auto-setting, 20mm wide angle lens, freehand, late afternoon sun at my 7-8 O'clock IIRC...

-RJP
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 20, 2009, 07:33:55 PM
Most of my photos are Motorola RAZR V3m.  However, that one just went in the box, and if I ever figure it out the next will be from a BlackBerry Curve.  If I can't figure the Curve out you will not be seeing photos from me.

P.S.

Leave the cat claws out of this.  I need those to give perspective, but after seeing Marshall without a hat I do believe we need glare control  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: mosbear on March 20, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
This one was taken with the old Canon G3, macro mode, manual focus on trigger. Natural lite in the shade.

(http://www.postimage.org/Pq2duZ4A.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq2duZ4A)

One can click the magnifying glass to see the full size without distortion.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2009, 08:00:58 PM
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/th_Guns006.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/?action=view&current=Guns006.jpg)
Canon A75 "Power Shot" set on Auto. Over head light and flash.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 20, 2009, 08:04:44 PM
Mosbear I clearly get the idea that a diffuse light source helps in eliminating high spots or shadows. Nice photo but when I blow it up you can see some blur. Have you used a tripod? My hands aren't what they used to be and I've given up taking handheld photos (even vacation stuff). I bought a manfrotto tripod that is extremely light.

Pincus, on your shot it brings up the wide or long subject. In particular a rifle or like yours where you have a person and gun. It looks like the raking shot pays off. You get the whole subject in a dynamic pose as opposed to a "flat on" shot. I like that effect. Again do you do all your shooting handheld?

Any of you use supplement lighting? I bought from home depot a clamp on light shade of aluminum. I bought a photo bulb (BBA 250watt)for like 5 dollars from the photo store. It seems to help in attacking shadows from opposite direction of my camera (nikon coolpix 4200 with a built in flash). I just clamped it to a ladder by the subject.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Rob Pincus on March 20, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
I have tripods and a nice monopod (monfrotto's both), but I rarely use them... most pics are on the fly. I do have a very small folding tripod that I use a lot with the timer or remote for groups shots and photo-ops while running around.....

-RJP
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: m25operator on March 20, 2009, 08:26:13 PM
Good topic, there are some good tips on AR 15 dot com, and natural sunlight, always seems to be the best, I too used an old fashioned dome type clamp light, but with a compact fluorescent  bulb, it did not give me the results I wanted.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1608.jpg)
Natural sunlight.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1380.jpg)
inside the house. Built in flash.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1375.jpg)
No flash again, but up closer, using a dome lamp for illumination.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1383.jpg)
Inside obviously, flash and a dome type lamp.
pictures taken with a Kodak, 5 megapixel pocket digital camera.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: mosbear on March 20, 2009, 08:35:32 PM
Mosbear I clearly get the idea that a diffuse light source helps in eliminating high spots or shadows. Nice photo but when I blow it up you can see some blur. Have you used a tripod? My hands aren't what they used to be and I've given upjavascript:void(0); taking handheld photos (even vacation stuff). I bought a manfrotto tripod that is extremely light.

..................................................

Guilty as charged, no tripod. BTW when things are blown up, there is always a blur ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 20, 2009, 08:43:19 PM
Mosbear you should see my photos (I have to figure out how to upload them to the forum, I guess I have to post them on photobucket or something like it first) ! Blur doesn't begin to describe the 'artistic' effect I acheive :) :)

M25 I like the revolver shot with the moon clip. A white background seems to help eliminate some of the shadows again. In trying to figure out a way to flood the scene with diffuse light a photographer friend told me of "light boxes". But they can be quite expensive. A couple of hundred dollars for something that would hold a rifle for instance. So I looked around on the web. I came across this homemade light box setup for less than 40 bucks. Take a look at some of his fotos. They are gorgeous. That is what I would like to get with a firearm. Great clarity, no unwanted shadows and a floating appearance to the gun.

http://www.pbase.com/wlhuber/light_box_light_tent
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: ericire12 on March 20, 2009, 08:45:20 PM
m25 is just showing off again.......  :P
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Big Frank on March 20, 2009, 09:23:59 PM
I don't have a digital camera but I have a new all in one scanner/copier and scanned one of my best looking gun pics. I believe this was taken with a little Pentax 110.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 20, 2009, 09:31:28 PM
Lighting is one concern, but background for still shots is also important. I have not figured out what the best all-around color is (suggestions welcomed).

Right now I am saving for a good Nikon or Canon. Until then I use a Fuji S3100.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Big Frank on March 20, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
I have red satin sheets that make a decent background for gun pics. Most of my pics are on a sheet or a carpet.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 21, 2009, 05:08:26 AM
Neat topic!  I took this one outside and over-exposed it...a lot.  I thought it was kinda different.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 21, 2009, 08:24:02 AM
The attached is a photo of a AR I built last month. I tried photographing it on my ceramic kitchen floor tiles which are a sandstone color. I was not able to get enough light in to really show the detail I wanted on the gun itself. One thing I was happy with (which I freely stole from Oleg Volk !) was to throw a couple of magazines and loose ammo into the picture. It brought a bit of diversity into the photo from the usual clinical shot. And to catch any criticism before hand, there was NO ammo in the mag in the gun  ;D The other mags I just loaded two rounds on top. Just enough to appear fully loaded.

Camera - Nikon Coolpix 4200 (4Mpixel)
Setting was on the pgm mode. It has settings for FINE mode also. Used built in flash and one photo bulb for additional light plus the flourescent light in the kitchen. You can see the ladder I clamped the photo bulb fixture to in the top left corner :)  (the sign of an amatuer !). This was handheld but I was leaning againist the stove so it was steadier than my normal shakey ones.  The single photo bulb in the aluminum reflector really throws a flood beam which you can kinda pick up on the floor. Clearly it needs to be diffused thru some cloth etc... I think today I might run down to home depot and try to build the light box that I posted earlier.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 21, 2009, 08:37:59 AM
Hottrockin I really like that pic ! That has the clarity and detail I like. I think it came out damm good. The diagonal gave it some life and the close up was neat. Part of the problem I see with trying to photograph a gun is that it has at least 2 sides if not more ! So it really is like DOCUMENTING a gun. Multiple shots are really in order to get the "soul" of the firearm. :) I hope that doesn't sound to artsy fartsy....The other problem is that most guns are this incredibly dark color. Heck I have trouble sometimes reading serial numbers etc with my eyes only a couple of inches away. That is why I  think tons and tons of light are needed.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 21, 2009, 08:58:58 AM
Most of my photos are Motorola RAZR V3m.  However, that one just went in the box, and if I ever figure it out the next will be from a BlackBerry Curve.  If I can't figure the Curve out you will not be seeing photos from me.


M58 I hear ya...actually I am new to the whole digital photo thing. I am showing my age but if it doesn't smell like vinegar it ain't a photo to me ! And Kodachrome still rocks ! I have my nikon film slr sitting in the closet these days. But even with a crappy camera phone I took one of the best pics I have ever taken at Camp Perry. It was at the Viale range in the morning as the sun was coming up, slight fog rolling in from the lake, quiet as a church, a couple of early shooters heading out to the first rifle squad. It was a stunning scene...took it with my Motorola Razr 3. I lightened up the second shot in MS photo editor.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Timothy on March 21, 2009, 09:57:58 AM
I have red satin sheets that make a decent background for gun pics porn flicks. Most of my pics flicks are on a sheet or a carpet.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Frank, please don't skin me with your K-bar.... ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 21, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
...I have this one as well.  This one I put a frame around and can use it as a desktop wallpaper with room for icons.  Both my shots are with my Canon S5 IS.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tt11758 on March 21, 2009, 11:01:24 AM
Most of my photos are Motorola RAZR V3m.  However, that one just went in the box, and if I ever figure it out the next will be from a BlackBerry Curve.  If I can't figure the Curve out you will not be seeing photos from me.

P.S.

Leave the cat claws out of this.  I need those to give perspective, but after seeing Marshall without a hat I do believe we need glare control  ;D

If you can't figure out the curve give me a call.  I think you know where to find me.  LOL

Actually, I can bring my 4mp digital camera over and shoot (so to speak) your guns, if you'd like.    ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Ksail101 on March 21, 2009, 11:17:22 AM
1776 Picky picky ;D ;D

I take a horrible picture of my guns or of anything for that matter, but that is my trademark. If I took a good one everyone would know it wasnt me.

I cant post pics cause I dont have an account at one of the Pic sights (photobucket) So I cant post any of my pro blurry, glare, bad light photos.

Also I only remember one Toe in a pic and I try to forget it everyday... :-X
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 21, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
Testing.....1...2...3.....
Forgive me if this don't work out....I'm trying this damned photobucket-thing for the first time......... 8)

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/DSCF3408.jpg)


(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/ClingmansDomeTN27.jpg)


(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/DSCF3030.jpg)


Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2009, 12:40:11 PM
PegLeg, If you go to photobucket, under the links (first one if they are all the time, all if they only pop up when your cursor moves over the pic) you will see a "link Options" click on that and it will give you a menu that lets you select things like thumb nails or full size and explains a little about which links are for what purpose.
For Forums use IMG. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 21, 2009, 12:42:51 PM
Thanks Tom.......
I used the wrong links to start with, but think I have it. I only had a few pics on there to try out.

Now I have to go take more 'gun' photos.  ;)

Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2009, 12:45:22 PM
Oh yeah ! That worked . Nice Pics.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: alfsauve on March 21, 2009, 01:30:57 PM
I want to build a "light box" for the handguns.  (Just a frame with white translucent material on sides and top) 
For long guns, it's hard to frame them because of their length.  To that end you end up only taking shots of part of the gun.  Or you take it at a severe angle.   I like outdoors for long guns.

This one take with a Cannon Sureshot 600 on an overcast day.  Macro setting, but everything else was auto.

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/Firearms/IMG_2089-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tt11758 on March 21, 2009, 01:54:32 PM
I want to build a "light box" for the handguns.  (Just a frame with white translucent material on sides and top) 
For long guns, it's hard to frame them because of their length.  To that end you end up only taking shots of part of the gun.  Or you take it at a severe angle.   I like outdoors for long guns.

This one take with a Cannon Sureshot 600 on an overcast day.  Macro setting, but everything else was auto.

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/Firearms/IMG_2089-1.jpg)




You should turn pro!!
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 21, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
HA I am now $10.36 into this lightbox project. I went to HD to pick up the PVC piping. Bought 3/4" stuff cause it seemed stiffer than the 1/2" pipe. Three lengths of 10ft plus 4 elbows and 4 tees. I am planning on a box approx 6 feet by 4 feet and about 2.5ft tall. I have a couple of muzzleloaders that I would love to get pictures of. Now I need a white sheet. I can just see the eyes of the cashier...an older white guy buying a white sheet :) I looked around and I'm gonna try out the following Compact Flourecent bulbs. They are rated for around 6500K temp which is pretty cool (blue) light like daylight or higher.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=296879-371-60063&lpage=none

By the way the pictures that you guys are posting are really very good. Where you been hiding them?
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: alfsauve on March 21, 2009, 02:02:52 PM

You should turn pro!!


Thanks, but out of 2000 pictures in the last 2 years, this is about the only one anywhere near close "pro" work.  I just got lucky.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 21, 2009, 02:14:34 PM
The hard part of photographing guns is how to pose them. I want to make a wooden stand to hold pistols through the magazine well to get a dimensional view. Rifles are a whole different story.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Big Frank on March 21, 2009, 04:48:06 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Frank, please don't skin me with your K-bar.... ;D

Don't worry Tim...



I don't have a Ka-Bar.  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 21, 2009, 08:01:03 PM
I'm sorry if I step on someone's favorite hobby, but to me snapping and posting any quality picture of a firearm is like getting the last layer off a fine stripper ... I don't get too wound up about the quality of the light, background, perspective, or even how dirty my glasses are.

I'm happy with anything you post and tell me about!

I now return you to your qualified debate and comparison of fine artwork while I go study the subjects  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: BAC on March 21, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
I never thought about taking pictures of my firearms before (before today anyway).  So I played a little today and here's what I got.  I had fun anyway.   ;D

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/laser.jpg)

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/reflection.jpg)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 21, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
BAC I don't know if you were joking or not, but your two photos are really good ! The composition and quality are simply top notch IMHO. What camera did you use (and any settings) and how did you handle the lighting etc? I would like us to STEAL ...errr... LEARN from each other in this exercise.  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: CZShooter on March 21, 2009, 08:23:32 PM
I never thought about taking pictures of my firearms before (before today anyway).  So I played a little today and here's what I got.  I had fun anyway.   ;D

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/laser.jpg)

(http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/bchiaravalle/reflection.jpg)

Those are top-notch photos!  :o
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: BAC on March 21, 2009, 08:49:07 PM
BAC I don't know if you were joking or not, but your two photos are really good ! The composition and quality are simply top notch IMHO. What camera did you use (and any settings) and how did you handle the lighting etc? I would like us to STEAL ...errr... LEARN from each other in this exercise.  ;D

Thanks for the kind words Rebel!  I'd be happy to discuss.  Both photos were taken with an Olympus E-30 w/50mm f2.0 macro lens.  Both were shot in Aperture priority mode.  If you have a camera that can shoot in Aperture priority (AV or Aperture value for Canon users), I highly recommend making it your friend, especially when shooting macro stuff.  You can control how much (or little) depth of field is in your picture.  By selecting a smaller number (f2.8, 4.0, 5.6) the amount of the scene that appears in sharp focus (front to back) is fairly shallow, which is great for isolating your subject from the background, as in a portrait.  Larger aperture values (f11, 16, 22) give you much greater depth, good for macro and landscapes.  Just be aware that as the values get larger the aperture itself gets smaller, letting less and less light into the lens.  To compensate the camera has to use a slower and slower shutter speed to give you correct exposure.  This is where a good tripod comes in handy.

Back to the photos: the top picture was shot as f8 at 1/10 of a second and ISO 1600.  I shot using available light so the laser would show up.  The high ISO value was needed because I was shooting handheld with one hand while my other hand was pushing the button on the laser grip.  1/10 second is normally much too slow to shoot handheld, by my camera has image stabilization built into the body which allows me to use any lens handheld at really slow shutter speeds and get tack sharp results, and I'm too lazy to get my tripod out of the car.   ;D

The bottom photo was shot at f16 at 1/100 of a second and ISO 100.  This shot was taken with a macro twin flash attached to the front of the lens.  I love the flash because I can control the direction and intensity of each flash head independently to get the look that I want.  You'll notice I used a much smaller aperture (larger number) to get greater depth of field.  The reflective surface underneath is the white three-ring binder I use for my sample prints.

Yes, this is my first time photographing my guns, but not my first time photographing.   ;)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 21, 2009, 09:48:17 PM
Damn fine shootin', BAC........ ;)

How far away was the camera from the guns?

And did I say, damn fine shootin' ?


Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: BAC on March 21, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
Damn fine shootin', BAC........ ;)

How far away was the camera from the guns?

And did I say, damn fine shootin' ?




Thank you.

Not very (maybe 6-10").

And thank you.   ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
My camera has , M, AV, TV, P, Auto, Then 7 little icons, I just ran through them and these were the best 2 I got
icon of a head, (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/th_Settinsfromauto008.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/?action=view&current=Settinsfromauto008.jpg)

icon of a Mountain, (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/th_Settinsfromauto004.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/?action=view&current=Settinsfromauto004.jpg)

Need to find and READ the instructions  :(

Overhead light and flash
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: blackwolfe on March 21, 2009, 11:29:25 PM
There are some great photos here.  Nice shootin.
I can't find my copy right now but I have the book "Custom Rifles in Black and White" by Steven Dodd Hughes that has custom rifles that he photographed and worked on many of them.  As the title states the photos are black and white.  There are many fine specimens.  If I remember correctly he gave the photo information along with the custom work information.  Although the rifles are pictured horizontally I believe he photographed the rifles vertically on a dowel rod which should work for handguns also.  His book is available here as well as other places.  This place also sells some very fine firearms.
   http://www.hallowellco.com/custom_rifles_in_black_and_white.htm
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2009, 11:40:53 PM
There are some great photos here.  Nice shootin.
I can't find my copy right now but I have the book "Custom Rifles in Black and White" by Steven Dodd Hughes that has custom rifles that he photographed and worked on many of them.  As the title states the photos are black and white.  There are many fine specimens.  If I remember correctly he gave the photo information along with the custom work information.  Although the rifles are pictured horizontally I believe he photographed the rifles vertically on a dowel rod which should work for handguns also.  His book is available here as well as other places.  This place also sells some very fine firearms.
   http://www.hallowellco.com/custom_rifles_in_black_and_white.htm


Those are awesome. I book marked it  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 22, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
Tom, what make/model of camera were you using?
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 22, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
Diggin' through my junk folder, I found this one...not a gun but oh well.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 22, 2009, 11:08:20 AM
Tom, what make/model of camera were you using?

Canon A75 "Power Shot"
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 22, 2009, 12:04:40 PM
Diggin' through my junk folder, I found this one...not a gun but oh well.

Hey I figure anything "gun related" is fine. That is another really nice shot ! I am surprised at how many great pictures are out there. Can ya fill us in on what camera, settings, lighting etc you used?
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 22, 2009, 01:13:31 PM
I use a point 'n' shoot Canon S5 IS.  8MP

The clip / bullet specs;

1/60 sec. @ f2.7 with a 6mm focal length and an ISO of 80.  Shot outside in macro mode.

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tumblebug on March 23, 2009, 01:56:59 AM
There was a rumor that the cat is gone on a canned accountant hunt lets hope there is VIDEO. Best to you Haz good luck. :-X :-X
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: someguy on March 23, 2009, 06:49:59 AM
Alright, here's one of mine...  I'm a portrait photographer, and I only photographed this rifle to list it on gunbroker, so I wasn't going for high-level art...

Regardless, here you go...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1965.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1968.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1967.jpg)

The laundry on the chair in the third shot is a nice touch, I think...   ::)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: alfsauve on March 23, 2009, 07:28:25 AM
I think the remote control in the background is particularly applicable to the concept of "reach out and touch someone".
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: SwoopSJ on March 23, 2009, 07:49:23 AM
O.K.  I consider myself to be at least moderately computer savvy, however, I have a stupid question.  I transfer all of my pics from my camera to my computer for storage.  Do I have to use Photobucket or can I transfer directly from my computer?  I tried to post a pic of my dog once before with no luck.  Can someone give me a little assistance?

Swoop
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: someguy on March 23, 2009, 07:51:21 AM
Alfsuave - *rimshot*      ;D

SwoopSJ - Yeah, photobucket is your best bet.  My images posted above were done that way.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 23, 2009, 02:47:27 PM
O.K.  I consider myself to be at least moderately computer savvy, however, I have a stupid question.  I transfer all of my pics from my camera to my computer for storage.  Do I have to use Photobucket or can I transfer directly from my computer?  I tried to post a pic of my dog once before with no luck.  Can someone give me a little assistance?

Swoop


Swoop,

You can post directly to the post from your computer, but you are restricted by 200kb in size. When posting direct, click on the 'additional options' at the bottom left of the reply screen. Then click in the 'attach' field and it should pop up a browsing menu from your computer to select your pics.

On photobucket, just open an account (free) and upload your pics to their page. When you want to post a pic, just copy the "img" link for the picture you want, and paste it in your post.

Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: SwoopSJ on March 23, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
Thanks PegLeg.  I can't remember exactly what the problem was with my previous attempt, but I would assume it was the size restriction.  I'll now be forced to break out the camera, oil up the guns, and hire some midgets for some serious, hardcore gun porn.   ;D

Swoop

Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hazcat on March 23, 2009, 05:53:22 PM
Most of my photos are Motorola RAZR V3m.  However, that one just went in the box, and if I ever figure it out the next will be from a BlackBerry Curve.  If I can't figure the Curve out you will not be seeing photos from me.

P.S.

Leave the cat claws out of this.  I need those to give perspective, but after seeing Marshall without a hat I do believe we need glare control  ;D

The mark of excellence!   ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 23, 2009, 06:00:48 PM
Spot on shootin' ~someguy~!!

The first upload is spot on perfecto!!  The others, OK...little tight on the DOF though.  Again, I'm luvin' that first one!!
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: someguy on March 23, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
Spot on shootin' ~someguy~!!

The first upload is spot on perfecto!!  The others, OK...little tight on the DOF though.  Again, I'm luvin' that first one!!

Yeah, the DOF was tight, but shooting wide open at f/1.4 was easier than getting my flash gear
out of the safe.  Like I said, these were just to get it sold (which they did, so...  Mission accomplished.) 

I'd like to think that I'd be able to come up with something more appropriate for 'art' than a
Storm case propped on my couch if I was shooting for art's sake...  I guess that means I have to
now, huh?
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: BAC on March 24, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
Alright, here's one of mine...  I'm a portrait photographer, and I only photographed this rifle to list it on gunbroker, so I wasn't going for high-level art...

Regardless, here you go...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1965.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1968.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/someguy12341/GAP1967.jpg)

The laundry on the chair in the third shot is a nice touch, I think...    ::)

I'm especially lovin' the Batman camera angle.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Ping on March 24, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
Nice macrolense touch on "Point towards Enemy". :)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: someguy on March 24, 2009, 10:26:41 PM
Well, my 50 f/1.4 would allow me to get closer than any other lens I've got, so that shot just worked out.  At the 18 inches or so I was from the barrel, the DOF is about 1/4 inch - couldn't be more perfect for the imprint on the muzzle brake.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 26, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
I have to say that I picked up a number of VERY useful tips on this thread ! As I had mentioned I was purchasing the PVC pipe for the light box per plans on the link provided in an earlier post. Well I modified it a bit and got it all completed. Bought some oak tag paper for background. Total cost was around 45 dollars. I also actually opened the camera manual and read it. Found out it has a macro function ! Also played around with the white balance. Because I was using CF Daylight bulbs rated at 6500K I had to do a custom fix. I bought a grey card and calibrated the white balance. Also broke out the tripod. Putting these four things together I took some shots. Well I think I got some pretty nice results...Haven't done my fire sticks yet but here is a sample of air guns and knives...KSAIL should enjoy this...I included my Randalls !


IZH 46M .177 Air Pistol
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3386322432_a390d5143f_b.jpg)

SIG 229 Airsoft Pistol
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3385506605_dde60a9bbf_b.jpg)

Ontario Knives XM-1
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3386309264_aeaf74b7c1_b.jpg)

Randall Knives Model 16 Diver
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3386308610_ee1caa26d1_b.jpg)

Randall Knives Model 14 Airman
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3385494239_bb1e17b716_b.jpg)

Randall Knives Model 19 Bushmaster
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3386307670_9dcc01ff5b_b.jpg)

Chris Reeve Knives Shadow IV
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3618/3386307824_87c787eb0a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: ericire12 on March 26, 2009, 10:28:41 AM
very professional
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: shooter32 on March 26, 2009, 10:33:04 AM
very professional

+10

fire sticks to come ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: blackwolfe on March 26, 2009, 10:47:46 AM
Very nice 1776 Rebel.  Can't wait to see the fire sticks.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: BAC on March 26, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
Very, very nice!
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 26, 2009, 11:57:04 AM
Top notch lookin' photos, Rebel........very well done. 
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: alfsauve on March 26, 2009, 04:00:33 PM
Cool pics, Rebel.  I like the IZH. 

Now I just got to get around to building me a light box
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 26, 2009, 06:04:04 PM
Took this one on my back deck last weekend.  Bright 'n' sunny day.  The original shot actually showed some of my wood decking.

Canon S5 IS

Aperture - f/3.5
Shutter Speed - 1/403 sec (that's a weird #)
Focal Length - 72mm
ISO - 80

Post work done in Photoshop converting it to B&W and cloning out the serial # and some background stuff.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hazcat on March 26, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
No offense Hotrock but now it looks like a 'dealer' shot.  I, personally like pics where I see some of the 'guy behind the camera'.  You know, basement background or 'off the back deck', etc..  I can get the 'perfect' shot of a gun on any manufacturers site.

JMHO
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Big Frank on March 26, 2009, 08:41:54 PM
No offense Hotrock but now it looks like a 'dealer' shot.  I, personally like pics where I see some of the 'guy behind the camera'.  You know, basement background or 'off the back deck', etc..  I can get the 'perfect' shot of a gun on any manufacturers site.

JMHO

You mean where you can see a big toe?  :)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: someguy on March 26, 2009, 08:44:55 PM
You mean where you can see a big toe?  :)


Zing!   ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hazcat on March 26, 2009, 08:45:28 PM
You mean where you can see a big toe?  :)

YEP!  ;D

BTW I am a big Weird Al fan!
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 26, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
Cool pics, Rebel.  I like the IZH. 

Now I just got to get around to building me a light box

Nice Pics Rebel, I've heard good things about that IZH, but darn it's a funny looking piece. Supposed to be Olympic grade accurate though.
Awesome knives, They don't have a drooling smilie on here  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 26, 2009, 09:00:38 PM
No offense Hotrock but now it looks like a 'dealer' shot.  I, personally like pics where I see some of the 'guy behind the camera'.  You know, basement background or 'off the back deck', etc..  I can get the 'perfect' shot of a gun on any manufacturers site.

JMHO

Not trying to bust on you, or start a fight because I agree that gun porn that shows some of the owners reality is better.
BUT, I feel the need to point out that the point of THIS thread IS more geared to camera work rather than the guns being "worked on ". Look at it this way HAZ, everything we learn from people on here, photo shop, settings etc, makes for more and better porn  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 27, 2009, 04:59:45 AM
Hey, I "aim" to please!

 ;D

Here's the original...
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 27, 2009, 07:26:48 AM
Post work done in Photoshop converting it to B&W and cloning out the serial # and some background stuff.

I know I may sound naive here, but can I ask why you need to hide the serial number? You have now triggered my paranoia and I'm figuring that someone could report the gun stolen or whatever and you'd find yourself explaining to authorities and paying lawyers, all because you showed a serial number on the web. Am I right or off base? I never thought of that before....I soooo hate the web...
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: 1776 Rebel on March 27, 2009, 07:46:14 AM
Now I just got to get around to building me a light box

Very easy project and took about an hour or so at MAX. All you need is a hacksaw or mitre box, one sheet of sandpaper and pvc glue. I realized that the entire frame hinges on the corners. This is what you make and glue up. Once that is done you just cut lengths of pipe for the legs and the "crown" or top of the frame. That simple.

Here is a pic of the corner. It is composed of a TEE and and ELBOW (both the non-threaded kind, just smooth on the insides) and a 3 or 4 inch length of pipe. The TEE and ELBOW are oriented at 90 degrees. The elbow is for the legs, and the tee is for the crown.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3386447388_81b394eab3_m.jpg)

Here is how all four corners will finally look. CAUTION HERE...remember that each corner is unique and has a different way for the TEE to face. Make sure you get it right BEFORE YOU GLUE IT UP !


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3386447580_61dcdaa364_m.jpg)

Now you just use the straight lengths of pipe for the crown (4 pieces) and the legs (4 pieces). Realized that you can cut any length you feel comfortable with. I cut 2 ft and 3 ft lengths. You will want to just run the edges and inside of the cut over with the sandpaper to clean it up. If you want you can buy two more TEEs (like .36 cents each at HD) and you can EXTEND the crown and make a huge rectangle of it. I put the 3ft sections together and got a box of 6 ft x 3ft x 2ft. So it turns out to be a very flexible design. Plus you can take it all apart in seconds and store it in the garage or a closet.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3385635559_4913d10b2c_m.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3386448458_1ceaef28eb_m.jpg)

Finally I just arranged the 4 lights I got from HD. One on each side and two on top. The lights are the clamp on aluminum reflector stuff 8 1/2 inch diameter for like 8 bucks. The bulbs I got were on sale, 4 for 12 bucks (CF Daylight bulbs). So the lights were THE most expensive part of the deal. The tees and elbows as I said are .36 cents each, a 10 ft length of 3/4" pvc pipe was $2.40 (used 3 of them). The glue was around 3.50.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 27, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
Hey, I "aim" to please!

 ;D

Here's the original...

Yes...that one does look better...IMHO.....gives it feeling and warmth (damn, did I actually say that?).
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Ping on March 27, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
We have some smoking shutterbugs on here along with shooters. Cool photos.  :D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Pathfinder on March 27, 2009, 12:33:31 PM
No offense Hotrock but now it looks like a 'dealer' shot.  I, personally like pics where I see some of the 'guy behind the camera'.  You know, basement background or 'off the back deck', etc..  I can get the 'perfect' shot of a gun on any manufacturers site.

JMHO

Or toes . . . .

 8)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hazcat on March 27, 2009, 01:33:12 PM
Or toes . . . .

 8)

The toes knows!  ;)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 27, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
Quote
I know I may sound naive here, but can I ask why you need to hide the serial number?

~Black Sabbath's Paranoid playin' in background~

 8)

I dunno, I just figured it wasn't sumpin' that needed to be seen, so I cloned it out.
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Hottrockin on March 27, 2009, 05:43:22 PM
OK, OK...a 'toe' will be included in another upload, as soon as the weather turns a wee nicer!!

 :P
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Pathfinder on March 27, 2009, 06:08:42 PM
OK, OK...a 'toe' will be included in another upload, as soon as the weather turns a wee nicer!!

 :P

Weenie!!!   ;D

Show them toes, in the snows, if you knows

what's best for ya!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: CZShooter on March 27, 2009, 06:14:14 PM
Weenie!!!    ;D

Show them toes, in the snows, if you knows

what's best for ya!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

I am soooo glad you followed that up with the 'toes in the snows' comment. There are just some things I don't want to see. :o
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 20, 2009, 07:15:45 PM
I can't claim this one, as I didn't take it, but thought it was worth sharing. I didn't want to start another thread so I put it here.


It is a picture of a Glock being fired (by a good friend of mine, also a State LEO) during a training session and was taken by another officer and he sent it to me last year.

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/MikeFiringaGlock2.jpg)


Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: Timothy on April 20, 2009, 07:20:19 PM
That was a quick shot catching the slide barely out of battery and in focus!

Pretty cool....
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: red364 on April 20, 2009, 11:44:44 PM
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Cheapo web cam in the dark..... :)
Title: Re: Photographing guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 24, 2009, 05:16:06 PM
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/th_Laconia007.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/?action=view&current=Laconia007.jpg)

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/th_Laconia006.jpg) (http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll282/tombogn03884/?action=view&current=Laconia006.jpg)