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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: 1Buckshot on March 18, 2013, 11:57:25 AM
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here is Colion Noir first episode for the NRA. Like it or not I think its a start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkta00FaRHo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkta00FaRHo&feature=youtu.be)
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Thanks 1Buckshot.
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I liked it.
Thanks for the link, Buckshot.
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Well said.
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Very good.
There were a few points that "rubbed" me a bit the wrong way, but then I realized that was because he is not preaching to the choir with this, but reaching those on the other side.
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A lot more people will listen to that than another address by Wayne LaPierre bobbing his head around in his business suit.
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Every time Colion ejects brass, a liberal's head explodes.
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Next video:
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I don't care. He's my brother by another mother. Go for it!
CR
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I tell you something about this kids video's for NRA that REALLY pisses me off.
The disclaimer at the beginning.
These should be the opinions of EVERY NRA member.
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I tell you something about this kids video's for NRA that REALLY pisses me off.
The disclaimer at the beginning.
These should be the opinions of EVERY NRA member.
Yeah, that gnaws at me a little too.
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NRA commentators pose dilemma for racist and sexist anti-gunners
http://www.examiner.com/article/nra-commentators-pose-dilemma-for-racist-and-sexist-anti-gunners
“I don’t have fans, I have supporters,” Noir shot back. “This is real life, not music, not movies, real life. You kicked the hornets and thought you could walk away, but you were wrong. The NRA came to me after saying what I have been saying for two years. We’re not lil wayne fans, we take this seriously, we believe in our rights and the ability to protect ourselves. Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, we are Americans with the right to live and protect that life. The gun is the equalizer in a world of evil whether you want to believe it or not. Remember this the next time you decide to come down from your ivory tower and attack someone’s motives who you know nothing about. As pro gunners we protect our own, the same way we would protect you with our guns if someone threatened your life.”
Is that beautiful or what?
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Here is another one....this guy just keeps getting better.
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Actually having sat through both "Ace Ventura" movies, and "Mask" ( as with "Eyes Wide Shut" it was a case of sit quitely or sleep on the couch ) I made a point of not watching "In Living Color" because I never thought he was funny.
Just an over acting ass hole.
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It's sad that he had to waste two minutes to address that moron, but it needed to be done.
Anyone know where he got that shirt? I wouldn't mind getting me one.
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Actually having sat through both "Ace Ventura" movies, and "Mask" ( as with "Eyes Wide Shut" it was a case of sit quitely or sleep on the couch ) I made a point of not watching "In Living Color" because I never thought he was funny.
Just an over acting ass hole.
Which ended up with the same results as an overactive asshole. ;D
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As much as I like what Colion says and how he says it, I'm not sure I'm going to like what he is not saying. He makes poignant but vague references to the violence issues of the inner cities and the poor but little in the way of what's to be done about those issues. Statistics show that the preponderance of gun homicides occurs in the inner cities, especially among blacks, hispanics (I really hate that made up term) and the poor. Is the NRA going to allow Colion to turn it into a social justice organization, or is he just a convenient messenger to keep the charge of racism at bay? There are two obvious ways to defeat or neutralize an organization like the NRA: (1) directly discredit the spokesperson and (2) indirectly broaden its aims to dilute its effectiveness. So far, Colion stays on message to debunk idiotic anti-gun claims and statements. Will there come a time when he ventures beyond that into the social justice abyss?
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As much as I like what Colion says and how he says it, I'm not sure I'm going to like what he is not saying. He makes poignant but vague references to the violence issues of the inner cities and the poor but little in the way of what's to be done about those issues. Statistics show that the preponderance of gun homicides occurs in the inner cities, especially among blacks, hispanics (I really hate that made up term) and the poor. Is the NRA going to allow Colion to turn it into a social justice organization, or is he just a convenient messenger to keep the charge of racism at bay? There are two obvious ways to defeat or neutralize an organization like the NRA: (1) directly discredit the spokesperson and (2) indirectly broaden its aims to dilute its effectiveness. So far, Colion stays on message to debunk idiotic anti-gun claims and statements. Will there come a time when he ventures beyond that into the social justice abyss?
Who gives a crap.
The issue that he is addressing is that none of the proposed "gun control" regulations actually address the circumstances of any actual shootings.
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This is going to drive the libs nuts. They love to insinuate that we are intolerant racist, yet many of us "stuffy old white guys" have been watching this young mans vids for some time. I'm glad to see the NRA speaking to the younger generations, ultimately they will be the ones to finish this fight or fold up like a cheap umblella. There are a lot of smart young folks out here, they just need to hear our side from people they can relate to. We have to counter years of liberal BS from school and pop culture.
Hide and watch, the libs will soon be falling over themselves trying to smear this young fellow just as they have been doing with Dr Carson and I predict its going to blow up in their faces. Just think of the change when the masses realize that Bloomberg is that rich guy they have been screaming about and he is using his wealth to control our lives. Hows that fit with the old "power to the people" mantra? When the population finnaly realizes the fact that bigger government means less reedom, a lot of libs are going to have some explaining to do. Or they can just run to save their miserable, lying hides. :o
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As much as I like what Colion says and how he says it, I'm not sure I'm going to like what he is not saying. He makes poignant but vague references to the violence issues of the inner cities and the poor but little in the way of what's to be done about those issues. Statistics show that the preponderance of gun homicides occurs in the inner cities, especially among blacks, hispanics (I really hate that made up term) and the poor. Is the NRA going to allow Colion to turn it into a social justice organization, or is he just a convenient messenger to keep the charge of racism at bay? There are two obvious ways to defeat or neutralize an organization like the NRA: (1) directly discredit the spokesperson and (2) indirectly broaden its aims to dilute its effectiveness. So far, Colion stays on message to debunk idiotic anti-gun claims and statements. Will there come a time when he ventures beyond that into the social justice abyss?
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Here's another one. Does anyone know if he has had professional speaking experience or training? If not, he has a natural tallent...and if he has, he'd damn good too.
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Tom,
Perhaps you missed the point when I said: "...I'm not sure I'm going to like what he is not saying." What I may not like is what he says that addresses the inner city issues he brings up. This man is becoming our spokesman regarding gun control. What happens if he starts addressing liberal solutions to the inner city problems? This country, and certainly the state of Maryland, have become an urban vs rural society. I know what it is like for the urban side to have the upper hand. My urban governor just raised taxes on gasoline, increasing those by 7 - 21 cents per gallon (on top of the 11.5 cents per gallon we currently pay) to pay for what? Mass transit in the cities of Baltimore and Washington DC. What does any of that have to do with gun control? Notice in the gun control bills there are increased taxes, fees and penalties? Do you think that any of those will be used to benefit gun owners? I think not. That new money will go to the inner cities and urban renewal projects. Just call me suspicious or skeptical, but Colion looks too much to me like a gift horse: I like what I see and hear on the outside, but wonder what really is on the inside.
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If he were addressing those things it might matter.
But he isn't, he is addressing gun issues and doing it very well.
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I would love to see him go on Piers Morgan's show and play the race card. You know, just because he can.
Talk about how gun laws affect the poor minority communities and the history of racist gun laws.
The ensuing vapor-lock would be fun to watch.
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The latest video from Colion Noir, on Sir Joe the Greasy and responsibility:
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The latest video from Colion Noir, on Sir Joe the Greasy and responsibility:
I don't agree with him this time.
He is telling Joe to shut up, but Joe's dumb comments keep giving us ammunition to use against them.
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"So you want us to hand over one of our rights based on "red crayon" legislation ?
Uh, I don't think so."
I really did LOL. ;D
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Colion Noir interviewed by Glenn Beck.
Almost unrecognizable in a button-up shirt and no ball-cap.
http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=26787357 (http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=26787357)
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http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/gun-control/no-one-is-coming-for-your-guns/
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Yup...now these NJ dipshits are famous. See what we have to put up with here?
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I tell you something about this kids video's for NRA that REALLY pisses me off.
The disclaimer at the beginning.
These should be the opinions of EVERY NRA member.
Tom, I agree that it should be our opinion. However, in this day and age of sound bites the National Rifle Association needs to make sure that there is clarity of what has been run through the approval process and what hasn't. Among the many things it does, this disclaimer gives the Board the chance to step back from the comments of those like Coloin and Ted.
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What part of "Shall not be infringed" do they have any right to step back from ?
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What part of "Shall not be infringed" do they have any right to step back from ?
I agree, but unless they want to sit down and screen what he says the waiver is what you get.
I put a "Weasel Waiver" at the beginning of all my presentations so I don't have to flex to scrutiny of others.
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I have more respect for a cow or bison that let's the chips fall where they may.
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I have more respect for a cow or bison that let's the chips fall where they may.
Cow won't be sued by every anti-gun lawyer who has a joke of a chance. Just the cost of responding to that many actions could be crippling.
There have been several companies run out business by an overwhelming onslaught of legal actions...the entire firearms industry was in jeopardy of massive legal costs from "frivolous" lawsuits. Laws were passed to protect them....
The NRA will not have that protection and they are doing all they can cover their butts.
The disclaimer was so broad and non-specific that it includes every individual and organization in the Universe.
They referred to ... any individual or organizations... note the plural, so it is more than just the NRA saying they don't want to be on the hook for what is said...they just don't want the chance of being sued by someone who might decide to sue for what ever grounds.
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In other words they are weaseling.
They want the name but lack the nuts to play the game full tilt.
Like some on here, all sorts of big talk but when push comes to shove they have to worry about their pension, or their kids tuition, or some other chicken sh!t BS .
The one that really makes me laugh is "Well, it's the law."
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tom,
Let's put this in the context I deal with. I teach several different things. Before I start I make sure you realize that there are laws, rules, and regulations that your are bound to. If I am not quoting the statute, etc. it is my opinion, and you are entitled to my opinion. Regardless of my opinion, or your understanding of my opinion, you are still bound by the law, rule, or regulation.
If I were to have someone referencing me with my permission I want control of that statement. Without that control I am not responsible for anything they say.
In a case of Carry classes, if a student is involved in an incident based on that Permit to Carry and they go to court, I WILL be called in to explain my roll in the training. The National Rifle Association can face the same either in court or the court of public opinion. If they do not control the message they will not let it be represented as their message.
Yes, it is 100% defense against the Weasel.
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Different situation M58 .
You are concerned about giving some one a set of skills that can result in injury or death if misapplied .
They are weaseling on ideas that their existence is based on not compromising .
It is as if Lincoln had "freed the slaves" by saying that "all blacks under 6 ft tall are free as long as their owner doesn't mind".
(Slaves over 6 ft represent NFA items )
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Different situation M58 .
You are concerned about giving some one a set of skills that can result in injury or death if misapplied .
They are weaseling on ideas that their existence is based on not compromising .
It is as if Lincoln had "freed the slaves" by saying that "all blacks under 6 ft tall are free as long as their owner doesn't mind".
(Slaves over 6 ft represent NFA items )
I don't see them saying that.
They simply state an obvious fact, that the views expressed in the video are not supported by everyone.
By doing so they avoid spending millions on legal defense.
Do you think, instead, they should state that the views expressed in the video are supported by everyone?
I am not a lawyer, but I can see where not making that disclaimer, it might be argued, illogically, that the NRA are saying it DOES have everyone's support...and that might be enough to enable many frivolous lawsuits requiring court appearances and cases what will be dragged out for as long as possible.
Sort of like looking both ways after the walk light has come on. It is not weaseling on your just right of way, just wise precaution.
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If you don't support the views expressed by this young man then you probably do not belong in any "gun rights" organization.
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If you don't support the views expressed by this young man then you probably do not belong in any "gun rights" organization.
Oh, I support them...the disclaimer is not talking about members of the NRA or the NRA itself...it is talking about everyone else.
No where in the disclaimer does it say anything about the NRA or NRA members....
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If they must have a "disclaimer" it should read
"These are the views of a law abiding gun owner.
If they offend you that is to f*cking bad ."
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If they must have a "disclaimer" it should read
"These are the views of a law abiding gun owner.
If they offend you that is to f*cking bad ."
That should reduce the frivolous lawsuits to near zero.
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