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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Michael Bane on the Radio => Topic started by: wtr100 on December 19, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
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drat!
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Yep, I was looking forward to MB helping talk us through the madness that is happening this week.
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Hey folks!
I am about to publish an announcement about this week's radio show, but here's the short version.
There will be one, but it will be aired from Friday afternoon.
We are working with the industry and the organizations in terms of responses and comments about the current situation we're in and we have been doing that since it all started. More later....
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Thanks. I'm glad this is being carefully thought through. On a related note, I'm glad to see the NRA laying low for a bit, since this should be a time of national mourning. Let the libs do what they do best... rant out of emotion. Let them be perceived as off-balance and reactionary.
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Laying low is a horrible idea.
You have given the enemy a full week to grab the initiative and turn a mental health issue into a debate on gun control.
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??? I hate to be a contrarian, but are why are we leaving the field to the enemies of Liberty?
The talking heads are reporting that the NRA has run away with its tail between its legs.
The Left always teaches control the language, control the argument, win the day.
As Mayor Nutter said on MSNBC last night we just need to give up a little freedom for security like we did after 911.
My apologies to Ben Franklin.
As things develop it looks like sheep dogs and sheep doggettes are the answer in the schools.
Apparently works in Utah. Teaching certificate + CCW certificate = safer public schools since 1996 (last Utah school murder).
(suicides dont count)
If Michael has other reasons, my apologies.
On a happier note the liberal mouth dribble seems to be rinning out. The reaction here in Missouri is too tell people not directly
affected to quit sniveling and get back to protecting our God given rights. Louis Gohmert for President!
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Laying low is a horrible idea.
You have given the enemy a full week to grab the initiative and turn a mental health issue into a debate on gun control.
:o Amen Brother!
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Laying low is a horrible idea.
You have given the enemy a full week to grab the initiative and turn a mental health issue into a debate on gun control.
I hope you're right. But I can see a tactical advantage to letting them spew their emotional rants and burn out, and then our industry respond with a strong, reasoned and unified message. I'm not saying to bow out of the fight, just maneuver for the attack.
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I have dealt with similar situations both here in the US and in Europe for the last 20 years. On many occasions, I've in a position being between victims of violent crime and gun owners or between government officials and shooting organizations. One thing I have learned from all this is: History always repeats itself in terms of emotional and immediate reactions that both sides of the aisle wish they could take back when things settle down.
So far this week, I have witnessed reactions and commentaries that I personally would like to respond to immediately. Then new facts come along and I am glad I didn't.
Immediately after a crisis like this, we are all overwhelmed with information, false, correct, good or bad. An early reaction or commentary from us would drown in the mix. Our final decision was to communicate with NSSF, NRA and others and hold off until Friday.
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Keep the faith MB
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A reaction a week ago would have been against only a story about a nut case shooting up a school.
Now you have to counter things like this
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-deaths-set-outstrip-car-fatalities-first-time-152632492.html
Gun deaths set to outstrip car fatalities for first time in 2015
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={9A1A3EF7-0F28-4B87-81E3-94BBDAC7910F}&title=Al-Sharpton-No-Toy-Gun-and-Video-Games-For-Kids-Blames-American-Bloodthirsty-Culture-For-CT-Shooting&utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+19%2C+2012&utm_campaign=20121219_m114749660_Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+19%2C+2012&utm_term=More
As for getting all the facts, that's a poor cop out.
How many facts beyond the incident it's self do you need to issue a statement decrying mental illness ?
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Actually, I wish MB would hold off long enough to hear what the NRA has to say and react to that in his Podcast also.
Just sayin'
Richard
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What good would it do ?
It will come 2 or 3 days after Obama's speech today where he already harped on gun control and mentioned mental health in passing.
All the funerals will be over, the propaganda organs will have shifted to something else and by the time MB or the NRA comment no one will give a crap any more.
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Sounds like a good plan, Marshal. Better to not have knee jerk reactions, (although we know we are right), to this threat. Get everyone together and on the same game plan.
DM
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A reaction a week ago would have been against only a story about a nut case shooting up a school.
Now you have to counter things like this
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-deaths-set-outstrip-car-fatalities-first-time-152632492.html
Gun deaths set to outstrip car fatalities for first time in 2015
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={9A1A3EF7-0F28-4B87-81E3-94BBDAC7910F}&title=Al-Sharpton-No-Toy-Gun-and-Video-Games-For-Kids-Blames-American-Bloodthirsty-Culture-For-CT-Shooting&utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+19%2C+2012&utm_campaign=20121219_m114749660_Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+19%2C+2012&utm_term=More
As for getting all the facts, that's a poor cop out.
How many facts beyond the incident it's self do you need to issue a statement decrying mental illness ?
No quite, the facts - as they always do in these circumstances, change constantly at first. Remember, the original reports said he killed his father too, only to find out a day later his dad was alive and well in NJ. The the reports he used the pistols and left the rifle in the car, and then, no, he used the rifle and left the shotgun in the car.
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Path, that has no bearing on the FULL statement in my post.
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:D Update: Missouri Legislators have just pre-filed several bills to open up school carry for us with CCW and Teaching certificates.
Currently you have to have school district approval and it is rare but not unheard of.
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"why are we leaving the field to the enemies of Liberty?" I agree with that statement but also understand there is a time to keep silent. Our enemies are worried about our response and we will respond I'm sure. Michaels show is like a beacon in the darkness for myself and I'm sure others. In these dark times where politicians display the most horrific tragedies to further an agenda that is far and away from any solution is sickening. I'll be listing this Friday Michael. Keep the faith. Jim