I have seen people shot with the .410 slug and it did the job.
I can think of one place it would be GREAT, Take it to your local skeet range, if you can do well there, you are probably a pretty good pistol shot, At least it sounds like fun ;D
If you can break even 1 bird in a round of skeet with one that would be impressive.
There's enough room in the cylinder for a .460, isn't there?
I don't think that I would go out and buy a Judge. But I don't feel that I would be under gunned if I had too use one in a defensive situation. If one wasn't enough keep pulling the triger! If I had one I think that I would load the first two with 410, and the last 3 with 45LC. :)
May be true, but why bother with the slug if you can use .45 LC. The Judge MAY be a fun gun to shoot, but in my opinion any one who thinks of it as a defense gun is nuts.
Yes that is so but if that's all ya got hope fore the best and go for it! There was another revolver out some 20 years ago and I can't remember the name of it( yes there goes Al again) and I had the same thoughts about it then. If I want a shotgun then I am going to buy a shotgun, if I want a revolver then I will by a revolver. On May 2 I will by a shotgun and it will not be .410
Yes that is so but if that's all ya got hope fore the best and go for it! There was another revolver out some 20 years ago and I can't remember the name of it( yes there goes Al again) and I had the same thoughts about it then. If I want a shotgun then I am going to buy a shotgun, if I want a revolver then I will by a revolver. On May 2 I will by a shotgun and it will not be .410
I say Taurus needs to bring back the model 450 .45 Colt snubbie.
The " Thunder ?
I think you're looking for the Thunder Five.
The gun LOOKED awesome.
Heck... 5 rounds of .45 Colt will make up for any who don't pack their underwear upon seeing that bazooka drawn from a hiding space.
IMO, where the judge shines is as an anti car jacking weapon. Other then that, I don't see much practical use for it.
Let's look at it from a different angle.
Which would you rather have for home defense?
A Taurus Judge (short or long barrel)
-or-
A pistol/revolver chambered in .22lr or even .22mag?
I like Taurus' product.
I'm just saying that the Judge's cylinder is a bit inefficient for .45 Colt, and .410 has been disparaged as less than optimal.
Which is a shame - I think Taurus might do great finding a short barrel optimized defense loading.
Maybe they should just make a Judge in 12 gaugeIn a 3 1/2" of course
A .45-70 Judge would kick serious booty. ;D
Now this is out of a 25 INCH BARREL. You have got to expect A LOT LESS ENERGY out of the Judge per pellet. I don't go for this aggregate analysis. "I get ten little school girls to throw you a beating vs Mike Tyson" which one DON'T YOU WANT? I suspect you want to stay away from Tyson. So if it boils down to defending my wife and children with a 71 grain round or even the 87 grain SLUG, FORGET IT. I am coming out loaded for bear...and it ain't gonna be with a Judge. The pellets by the way are ROUND BALLS OF LEAD. Gee, how do you think they will behave when they hit a target. If I am right, the military gave up LEAD ROUND BALLS ...er...a hundred and fifty years ago !
I think it depends on what part of the body the "ten little school girls" will beat on and for how long as opposed to Mike Tyson.
The pellets by the way are ROUND BALLS OF LEAD. Gee, how do you think they will behave when they hit a target. If I am right, the military gave up LEAD ROUND BALLS ...er...a hundred and fifty years ago !
I think it depends on what part of the body the "ten little school girls" will beat on and for how long as opposed to Mike Tyson.
In 410 i would only use slugs. UNLESS you were concerned about something like snakes or mice. On people .410 shot will not be practicle, If some felon is trying to hurt or kill me I do NOT want to hurt or scare him, I want to kill that SOB as rapidly as possible. The .45 LC is the BEST optoin for that, but if you are in a location where over penetration poses an unreasonable risk to other and the range is VERY short, such as an apartment or car on a busy street, the slug will do the job with out going through the threat and hitting someone in the next car or room.
Why would you want to fire .410 97gr slugs, when the same gun will chamber 250gr .45lc rounds?
Just a thought here. When you responded to a opinion, and you type your words in BOLD form isn't that the same as yelling? Everyone has a right to his/her opinion. That why we are on this forum. However if I mistook these BOLD words as yelling back than I must apologize.
Taurus 4510
08 Mar 08
Shotgun/revolver:
Taurus is currently marketing their M4510, five-shot revolver. In their booth at the SHOT Show, Taurus showed us a video touting this gun as being designed specifically for use in preventing car-jackings. It is a big, heavy pistol, and reloading is slow. Comfortable, concealed carry is possible only for the biggest among us.
The revolver chambers and fires both 45 Colt ("Long-Colt") and 410 shotgun cartridges, however 410 shotgun shells are limited to the shortest made, 2.5 inches. In the promotional video, 410 birdshot was, not surprisingly, demonstrated on a "Shoot-n-See" paper target that is designed to make each pellet impact look much bigger than it actually is. The pistol's rifled bore aggravates the spread of the shot pattern. Even at a range of four feet, the birdshot pattern in the demonstration had already attained a diameter of eight inches.
As I watched, it occurred to me that, as a single-purpose "snake-gun," this revolver would be second to none!
I know of no actual shootings with this revolver on human criminals. However, a friend in OK just used his copy to dispatch a large skunk at a range of ten feet. He used #8 birdshot. The task required three hits, but the unimpressed skunk was far from DRT. He slowly waddled off, crawled into abush, and eventually died.
I can't imagine any size of birdshot, particularly from a short barrel, being an effective fight-stopper. However, loaded with 45 Colt, or 410 slugs or buckshot, I believe this revolver is at least arguable as a "car-gun." 410 slugs are available, as is 410/000bk (three pellets). My personal choice would be 000bk!
In a real fight, that one can use this revolver, or any gun, effectively, via any species of unaimed, "spray" technique, is little more than self-deception. To be effective in a life-threatening circumstance, shots from any kind of firearm must be aimed precisely by a competent Operator.
Just as cars that "drive themselves" are currently unavailable, guns that are effective in the hands of the untrained and willfully incompetent exist only in the minds of the naive.
/John
I think this would make a really nice side arm for the ranch or farm.