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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: JdePietro on August 09, 2009, 10:33:46 PM
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Mods please feel free to move as you may, I wasn't 100% sure where this belonged.
First my disclaimer; I am not a scientist, just a regular Joe and these test are far from scientifically performed. I am not spokesperson, salesmen, or owner of the company that produces the product I tested. I can assure you I have not been compensated in anyway for the test I performed nor have I mislead or changed the results. I do this out of my enjoyment for firearms and quest to find only the best products to ensure my firearms are around at least as long as I am.
Again the results of the test are unadulterated and raw, I am not well versed in this area and so there are many things I could have done better, but here are the facts.
I have been an advocate of Brian Eno's Slide Glide since I first got a sample some months ago. I found its superior lubrication properties to far exceed the standard in grease for firearms. One of the many reoccuring statements about using grease on firearms was the want for the product to have some sort of marine resistance. No not US Marine devil dog, nobody can resist their will, no I mean aquatic enviroments. Humidity, sweat, moisture, all the nasty oxidizing agents that our precious firearms have at some point come into contact with. While nothing is marine proof, some products offer at least some level of resistance and other come down right close to the latter.
On July 31st 2009 the following took place.
Using what I had at hand, I came up with a test to see just how much protection Slide Glide offered. I used the following items for my test.
3 used medicine bottles, washed out with soap and hot water.
3 teaspoons of Sea Salt.
3 one inch long steel nails
Regular non filtered tap water. [SIZE="2"](After thinking about it for a bit I should have measured out the water to gain more consistant results but meh I said I was not scientist.)[/SIZE]
I took each bottle and labeled it with the start date and with the viscosity I would place in the bottle. I placed one teaspoon of sea salt in each bottle and filled it 3/4 of the way full of tap water and shook up the mixture to create a salt water like enviroment.
I then dipped the head of the nail in the coinciding viscosity of slide glide and placed the nail head first into the bottle marked as such.
It was my intention to have the nails sit in the bottles for 7 days, however work and life interupted this and so I acutally finished up the test on August 9th 2009 giving the test 10 full days of exposure.
It was not my intent to see just how long the slide glide could last but just to prove it could indeed withstand some exposure to water.
I will let the picture do the rest of the talking.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_096812.jpg)
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(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101112.jpg)
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(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101412.jpg)
This was truly amazing, the heavy formula still was reddish and somewhat transparent.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101512.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101712.jpg)
This is the Lite formula and you can see it still has it stringy characteristics that make Slide Glide such a great lubricant. The Heavy formula was even better!
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101812.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/WhiteFeather93/IMG_101912.jpg)
Product can be purchased here http://www.brianenos.com/store/slide-glide.html
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Interesting test, JP, and especially interesting results - nails shiny and bright as if new.
I thought we had another thread on here about Slide-Glide but 2 quick searches didn't locate it. It is good stuff I hear, I am setting up to order some myself.
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Interesting test, JP, and especially interesting results - nails shiny and bright as if new.
I thought we had another thread on here about Slide-Glide but 2 quick searches didn't locate it. It is good stuff I hear, I am setting up to order some myself.
This was my own test on the claims of Slide Glides lubricity as well as others. I really don't think you will be dissapointed, too many people avoid oil because the internet tells them to. Others have realized that oil is good but grease is better and like it or not firearms get dirty.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=7078.0
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You claim to be an "average Joe". That is not true as you obviously put a lot more thought into this stuff than most of us.
Posts like yours help this site be the resource that it has become.
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FWIW, in addition to being a great way to keep the heads of nails from rusting, my guns run great with Slide Glide. I started using it about a year ago, and have put several thousand rounds each through my 1911 and my limited gun. In addition to seeing no wear to speak of, the Slide Glide sticks around you wipe it off. I've gone thousands of rounds between cleaning, and when I disassemble, all the surfaces are still slick. The gun really does seem to run smoother with slide glide than it ever did with oil.
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Gun show this weekend here, I'll keep that in mind, Some pretty big vendors at the show. If they don;t have it, I'll try it via website.
Thank you
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bbbean, check out the thread that he linked to, he and M25 have more good info there, although you pretty much summed it up. The stuff works .
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=7078.0
Here's another thread that talks about Lubes
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2559.30
That is where I found the following link on the science of it
http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
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Pretty good test! Sold me on it ;D
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Good test and good info.
Thanks JdePietro.
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I forgot to add one caveat - pay attention to the viscosity and temp. If you use the Slide Glide Heavy on a tight gun in cold weather, it WILL slow the gun down enough to misfeed. That said, I've use the standard viscosity on my tight limited gun in temps ranging from high 20s through 105 or so with no problems. The light viscosity ran my gun in the high teens (just testing - I don't ordinarily shoot when its that cold). YMMV
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I forgot to add one caveat - pay attention to the viscosity and temp. If you use the Slide Glide Heavy on a tight gun in cold weather, it WILL slow the gun down enough to misfeed. That said, I've use the standard viscosity on my tight limited gun in temps ranging from high 20s through 105 or so with no problems. The light viscosity ran my gun in the high teens (just testing - I don't ordinarily shoot when its that cold). YMMV
Yes, When it gets below 20 even the shooting range sucks ;D
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At first glance, that Slide Glide stuff looks suspiciously a lot like Lucas Oil's Red N Tacky grease:
Red N Tacky (http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?iid=46&catid=14&loc=show&headTitle=%20-%20Red%20'N'%20Tacky%20Grease)
Just sayin'....
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It kinda looks like a lot of greases but I couldn't tell you how they came up with the formula or what comparison can be made. I do know this stuff works great, I love using it.
Take what everyone has to say with a grain of salt but don't be afraid to try it and prove anyone wrong.
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At first glance, that Slide Glide stuff looks suspiciously a lot like Lucas Oil's....
Well they do specifically make gun oil: Lucas Gun Oil (http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?iid=27&catid=9&loc=show&headTitle=%20-%20Lucas%20Gun%20Oil)
I have a bottle and do use it regularly (along with a cabinet full of other gun cleaning junk.) Stuff works well, but the only extreme my guns see are extremely freaking hot weather.
....I have been an advocate of Brian Eno's Slide Glide since I first got a sample some months ago.....
Would like try the Slide Glide stuff out. Do they actually offer a sample of it to try?
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Would like try the Slide Glide stuff out. Do they actually offer a sample of it to try?
I have seen it at a few USPA matches and Trigun challenges. I know the tubes are right around $7 or so and shipping isn't more than a few bucks. I don't think you will regrete the purchase.