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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: ericire12 on May 19, 2008, 12:35:17 PM
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Yes, Glock has missed the boat again (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2105.0). Gun crafters has has done for Glock what the .45 GAP was supposed to do by introducing a .50 Glock conversion for the Glock 20/21:
http://www.footpounds.com/weblog/?p=384
(http://guncrafterindustries.com/graphics/sneak1.jpg)
(http://guncrafterindustries.com/graphics/images/cartridge_1_500.jpg)
For $2,800 $595.00 you get a complete upper that allows conversion to .50 GI factory loads - thats 300gr @ 720 fps and 275gr at 890 fps.
BTW: All my shooting buddies can attest that back when Glock came out with the .45 GAP I said they should have put their time and efforts into a .50 instead. Why in the hell they tried to replace the most perfect caliber for personal defense with a dumbed down version is beyond me. However, the .50 is a logical progression, and proves to have a measurable improvement in stopping power.
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While a 50 GI G21 intrigues me I'm more apt to put the money down on a 45 GAP G37 that fits my hand better. The 21SF is much better and 45 ACP and 45 GAP ammo is much easier to obtain than 50 GI is. I can actually BUY those loads locally without reloading or special ordering it.
How is the 45 GAP "dumbed down"?
The bullet weights (155, 185, 200 gr) and velocities (around 750-1000 depending on bullet) are similar to ACP, at least in my reloading data book (Hodgdon). Yes it doesn't list the 230 gr GAP, but for me it isn't a big deal since I usually shoot 185s or 200s.
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I should get one for my GLOCK 30. ;D
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I should get one for my GLOCK 30. ;D
That would be a hand full!
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Here's some more info on the .50 GI
Specifications
Case type Rebated, straight
Bullet diameter .515 in (13.1 mm)
Neck diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Base diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Rim diameter .480 in (12.2 mm)
Case length .899 in (22.8 mm)
Overall length 1.221 in (31.0 mm)
Ballistics
* 300 gr (19 g) JFP, 700 ft/s, 350 ft-lbf
* 275 gr (18 g) JHP, 900 ft/s, 495 ft-lbf
* 300 gr (19 g) JHP, 860 ft/s, 493 ft-lbf
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So how long until it kabooms?
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::)
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So how long until it kabooms?
I think you hurt Hawk's feelings ;)
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(Looks at picture with round in barrel)
That's no moon, thats a space station! :o
So how long until it kabooms?
Wonderin' the same thing. I've got 2,000 yen on less than one box any takers?
I should get one for my GLOCK 30. ;D
If you want a 2 round capacity pistol I think a 45 colt derringer would be better suited. :D
I think you hurt Hawk's feelings ;)
Better feelings than fingers. ;D
::)
What would we do without ya Hawk? ;D
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Update: MSRP for the upper is only $595.00 not the earlier advertised $2,800.00
That price point might make the purchase decision a little easier!
http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/sneakpreview.shtml
(http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/graphics/sneak2.jpg)
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That is a pretty big difference in price, although by the time you've proven the conversion kit reliable you've spend that much on ammo.
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If you want a 2 round capacity pistol I think a 45 colt derringer would be better suited. :D
I dunno. With a bullet that size I think 2 rounds would be about all I need! You hit the first guy with a .50 bullet I don't think anyone else would wanna try it! ;D