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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Michael Bane on the Radio => Topic started by: Dakotaranger on May 15, 2013, 01:12:14 AM

Title: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Dakotaranger on May 15, 2013, 01:12:14 AM
I probably will never be a motorcycle guy, mainly because I tend to like mountain biking more.  Are there tips for drawing and breaking that you could suggest?  We have cats that go through the Maah Daah Hey trail.
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Timothy on May 15, 2013, 06:47:10 PM
Motorcycles rear brakes are foot operated!
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Dakotaranger on May 15, 2013, 09:30:32 PM
Motorcycles rear brakes are foot operated!
Yeah but I don't do motorcycles, why I was asking about mountain biking drawing tips.
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Pathfinder on May 16, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
Yeah but I don't do motorcycles, why I was asking about mountain biking drawing tips.

Use a bike with coaster brakes?  ;)
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Timothy on May 16, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
DR,

How much trouble would it be to switch the brake cables so your left hand controls the rear brake in stead of the front?  It would take some getting used to but probably easier than carrying a side arm on your weak side (left)! 

Thoughts?

T
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Dakotaranger on May 17, 2013, 12:20:01 AM
DR,

How much trouble would it be to switch the brake cables so your left hand controls the rear brake in stead of the front?  It would take some getting used to but probably easier than carrying a side arm on your weak side (left)! 

Thoughts?

T
Interesting idea, the problem comes with braking on hills.  Going down you brake on the font more.  The problem is I'm one of the two here that actually would confront this hahaha
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Timothy on May 17, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
Interesting idea, the problem comes with braking on hills.  Going down you brake on the font more.  The problem is I'm one of the two here that actually would confront this hahaha

Not necessarily the only two!  I'm researching bikes now so your opinion matters to me!

T
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Solus on May 17, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
Did some searches and found a video that recommended using a fanny pack carried in front for a holster.

They showed the fanny pack in use.  It takes two hands to draw...some how I think they are missing something.

Don't know how practical this would be, but the theoretical answer would be to have dual controls for one of the brakes on the weak hand side, arranged so either brake can be operated with the weak hand.

If that just won't work the only way to go is to use an eye-tracking mount for the gun so it points where you are looking and have the "trigger" mounted on each of the grips.   ;D
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Dakotaranger on May 17, 2013, 08:09:15 PM
Did some searches and found a video that recommended using a fanny pack carried in front for a holster.

They showed the fanny pack in use.  It takes two hands to draw...some how I think they are missing something.

Don't know how practical this would be, but the theoretical answer would be to have dual controls for one of the brakes on the weak hand side, arranged so either brake can be operated with the weak hand.

If that just won't work the only way to go is to use an eye-tracking mount for the gun so it points where you are looking and have the "trigger" mounted on each of the grips.   ;D
Solus, I carry at 3 with a DSG holster since I've gone to riding at night and mounting a TRL-1 on my .45.  (I'm waiting for a Conservative Creek holster for my Sig1911).  Upto this point I had been running Sherpa holsters because I have gone over the handle bars with them and the pistol stays put.

the dual controls is an interesting idea I would like to test it on someone else's bike first. 

I do love the eye tracking mount idea though
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Michael Bane on June 13, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
You know, we decided to do mountain/road biking self-defense issues for the next season of THE BEST DEFENSE because we get so many requests. I carry with a SafePacker velcro'ed on the handlebars of both my road and mountain bike, set up for right-hand draw. The advantage of the SafePacker system is that it's easy to pop if off the handlebars and carry it with you when you get off the bike. SafePackers come in multiple sizes (and an assortment of colors) so you can fit them to your everyday carry gun.

Worst case, I've carried a Kel-Tec .32 slipped into the left leg of my biking shorts. Two years ago I was doing one of the 3-peak Clorado road rides and was just getting ready to start the last climb, from Vail to Copper Mountain when one of the bystanders said, "Hey aren't you Michael Bane?" Amazing, since after 70 or so miles I looked like old hammered crap. I said yeppers and he immediately said, "I thought you always carried a gun?" I pointed at the lump in the left leg of my bike shorts, and he said, "well, I'll be damned!"

The gun gets sweaty, but hey, it's plastic!

Michael B
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Dakotaranger on June 14, 2013, 05:51:03 AM
You know, we decided to do mountain/road biking self-defense issues for the next season of THE BEST DEFENSE because we get so many requests. I carry with a SafePacker velcro'ed on the handlebars of both my road and mountain bike, set up for right-hand draw. The advantage of the SafePacker system is that it's easy to pop if off the handlebars and carry it with you when you get off the bike. SafePackers come in multiple sizes (and an assortment of colors) so you can fit them to your everyday carry gun.

Worst case, I've carried a Kel-Tec .32 slipped into the left leg of my biking shorts. Two years ago I was doing one of the 3-peak Clorado road rides and was just getting ready to start the last climb, from Vail to Copper Mountain when one of the bystanders said, "Hey aren't you Michael Bane?" Amazing, since after 70 or so miles I looked like old hammered crap. I said yeppers and he immediately said, "I thought you always carried a gun?" I pointed at the lump in the left leg of my bike shorts, and he said, "well, I'll be damned!"

The gun gets sweaty, but hey, it's plastic!

Michael B
Cool.  Shoot, if you were going to do a training episode, No Dak isn't that far from Colorado.  Guess I'm saying could use the training
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: TAB on June 14, 2013, 05:42:07 PM
Will you be going over other things that some one on a bike should carry that might be useful for sd.   not every one can carry a gun or wants too.
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Michael Bane on June 14, 2013, 05:52:04 PM
TAB, yes we will...one of the things we're trying to do this season with TBD is address "less permissive" environments, a.k.a., the Slave States, like the one in which I current reside.

Michael B
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Jrlobo on June 14, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
C'mon MB...Maryland a slave state? Since when have we improved? Today we are a slave state, but come Oct 1 we will be a full-blown police state. That means all of us will be slaves and the only slave owners will be the state government and its lackeys. I'm reading up on the underground railroad, because that is how we will move around armed.
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: TAB on June 14, 2013, 07:10:38 PM
Federal parks do not allow carry.  Its not just the evil states that restrict stuff.   
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 14, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Federal parks do not allow carry.  Its not just the evil states that restrict stuff.   

Wrong TAB!

Since 2010 carry in National Parks has been tied to the local State legislation.  Federal allows it carry of legal firearms by legal citizens within the restraint of the state where the park is located.
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Timothy on June 15, 2013, 06:58:26 AM
Wrong TAB!

Since 2010 carry in National Parks has been tied to the local State legislation.  Federal allows it carry of legal firearms by legal citizens within the restraint of the state where the park is located.

Thanks M58.

I was going to post something but the Kid just don't get it or he doesn't pay attention.

I stood on the apex of the Old North Bridge with a 1911 on my hip last April and again with my snubby in my pocket this past May.  Can you imagine the hypocrisy of all those gun free years on that hallowed ground? 

The very foundation of the Bill of Rights!
Title: Re: #315 Yes I'm raising my hand for not being a motorcycle guy
Post by: Solus on June 15, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
Thanks M58.

I was going to post something but the Kid just don't get it or he doesn't pay attention.

I stood on the apex of the Old North Bridge with a 1911 on my hip last April and again with my snubby in my pocket this past May.  Can you imagine the hypocrisy of all those gun free years on that hallowed ground?  

The very foundation of the Bill of Rights!

Now, that brings up an image...a poster maybe.

American Colonial Fighters tending their dead and wounded at that bridge, looking with sadness and horror at the restrictions of firearms at that place.  

Caption might read.  "We fought and died here for the Right of The People to keep and bear arms.   What have you done?  How was it lost.  Do not let our lives have been given in vain."