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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Magoo541 on October 02, 2017, 08:31:56 AM
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So I woke up this morning and was in the process of making coffee/breakfast and packing my lunch when my wife asked me if I'd heard about the shooting.... what shooting?
When she said that 50 people had been killed and 200 wounded I figured it was another terrorist at a Rap concert, Mooslim last name? Nope a 64 YO white guy at a Country Concert. Trolling for Monsters was my next thought.
Full Auto weapon... well it was an illegal weapon so there is that, not to mention that killing people from the 32nd floor is illegal BUT somehow I have a feeling the gun, and all of us with it. From what I heard in the one video I saw it sounded like an M-16 or 223 caliber but that could be just a poor recording.
600 rounds in 2 minutes is one thing I've heard, now constant fire for 10 miniutes...
Trolling for Monsters... :'(
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And 5 minutes after the last shot was fired, the liberals were screaming for gun control.
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And of course now Klinton is yelling just how much more "dangerous" it WOULD HAVE BEEN if the killer was using was using a suppressor. OK, this guy is shooting at 500 yards (the last I heard) from 30 stories up. WHAT DAMN DIFFERENCE would a suppressor have made. There is no way in my mind it would have made ANY difference.
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This would not have happened if there had been a law preventing any buildings from having more than two stories....
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We need a law making it illegal too snipe. That will fix it. The sad reality that most of the gun geabbers don't understand is a sniper rifle is nothing more then a beefed up deer rifle. I mean really a modern 308 with a decent 10x scope can do 2 moa with ease. Hell people can hit man sized targets open sited withsurplus rifles with out too much trouble.
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And of course now Klinton is yelling just how much more "dangerous" it WOULD HAVE BEEN if the killer was using was using a suppressor. OK, this guy is shooting at 500 yards (the last I heard) from 30 stories up. WHAT DAMN DIFFERENCE would a suppressor have made. There is no way in my mind it would have made ANY difference.
Sound had nothing to do with the people dispersing. The videos show them standing all but motionless as scores of rounds were fired. It was said by dozens of witnesses, they thought the noise was fireworks. Because it was the grand finale of the 3 day concert. It wasn't until they saw people dropping, that they realized it was gunfire. By then dozens of people were shot. Then they began running out of panic. If a suppressor had been used it wouldn't have made any difference. Just more meaningless, liberal political noise.
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Hidabeast refuses to put politics aside as she says, "We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA . . . ". I hate that hypocritical bitch with a passion.
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>:( The right to make, buy, own, carry, & conceal weapons is the right to be free...
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if the latest reports are correct it looks like bump-fire may be on it's way out. The shooter supposedly had two in the room, but I don't know if he used them.
People should really wait till all the info is available on the weapons he used.
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His brother said that he wasn't really a gun person and doesn't know where he got all those automatics as the news are calling them. He had a bunch of guns at home plus the other bunch he had with him. I read somewhere that he had an illegal fully automatic rifle but I haven't heard anything yet this afternoon. Of course the liberals all want to ban legal semi-automatics, the reason being because he used an illegal full-auto rifle. Makes sense to me. ::)
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I was in gun store today and a TV station called the owners and sent them two pics. IF the pics are legit, and the owners said they had to be told by the TV station the pics were legit, then the bump-fire and a Daniel Defense were involved but who really knows right now.
Have any of you guys having Faceybook or whatever checked out the idiots Faceybook page or whatever. I got a text from a cop friend that I don't want to share yet. If he had a facebookey page then maybe you guys can confirm it.
And from Huffandpuff...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-details-on-suspected-tennessee-church-shooter_us_59c8f84be4b01cc57ff38a0d (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-details-on-suspected-tennessee-church-shooter_us_59c8f84be4b01cc57ff38a0d)
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I was in gun store today and a TV station called the owners and sent them two pics. IF the pics are legit, and the owners said they had to be told by the TV station the pics were legit, then the bump-fire and a Daniel Defense were involved but who really knows right now.
Have any of you guys having Faceybook or whatever checked out the idiots Faceybook page or whatever. I got a text from a cop friend that I don't want to share yet. If he had a facebookey page then maybe you guys can confirm it.
Supposedly the guy had no social media. From what I can tell the cops are being pretty tight-lipped with the details so it's all rumors right now.
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A guy called into Limbaugh yesterday and said;
“In under 12 hours the FBI determined that this asshole had no terrorist ties but in more than a year of looking they can’t tie Trump to Russian collusion!”
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"There are too many rats in the box and some of them are broken..." Michael Bane
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One of the pictures from the room seems to show a note left.
Girlfriend is now under investigation.
I understand not hearing anything during an investigation but there really seems to be a blackout of information beyond normal. Perhaps it's just the scale of the tragedy.
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One of the pictures from the room seems to show a note left.
Girlfriend is now under investigation.
I understand not hearing anything during an investigation but there really seems to be a blackout of information beyond normal. Perhaps it's just the scale of the tragedy.
I think the Sheriff is playing it right and not putting everything out there until it's been verified. I've watched a few news conferences and they're doing a good job! Vegas is enuf of a circus by itself! Why let the press make it more of one...
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The CDC is mad because they can't waste more of our tax dollars studying violence caused by guns. And people wonder why the NRA is against it.
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LA Times has reported that the hotel security guard was shot 6 minutes before the idiot opened up on the concert.
The timeline is changing. This may help explain the clampdown on information that seemed so out-of-place.
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Another unfounded theory...but who knows....
Had lunch with a friend who says he "heard" that this was an FBI/CIA Sting operation that backfired. Story is that Paddock was "hired" to do a sting weapons deal to ISIS...but started shooting instead...
Seems hollow to me...How interested would ISIS be in a couple dozen guns the guy had?
But I just hate to not spread Tin Foil rumors...
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The conspiracy theories are getting so thick that it is hard to even find simple fact based information. Between the politicians trying to secure their career on the dole, to the 24hr news cycle and talking heads that need to hear themselves talk and fill air time with "if it bleed it leads," to people that want their 15 minutes of fame and respond to the media with their far fetched theory of what happened to them at the event, to the wanna be experts who spout off and make things more confusing, to liberals scared of their own shadow and loud noises, to tin foil hat wearers who trust no one, to the rest of us gullibles out here, we will never know what happened.
I have a local gun shop that I will no longer go to. How many of you remember a former member here who called himself Watchman? He work(ed/s) at a place called Bill's Guns. They are in three locations (two in Minnesota and one in Wisconsin). I liked the place, and I bought a couple guns there, from Watchman. I bought some other items and ammunition over the years. However, the day after the shooting one of their managers was on the local news giving an adrenaline high interview and suffering from diarrhea of the mouth. He spewed "clips", "full" auto, "ar15 full auto," and more.
Rant off ... for now :'(
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" it's crashing! It's crashing terrible! Oh, my! Get out of the way, please! It's burning and bursting into flames and the... and it's falling on the mooring mast. And all the folks agree that this is terrible; this is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world. Oh it's... [unintelligible] its flames... Crashing, oh! Four- or five-hundred feet into the sky and it... it's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. It's smoke, and it's in flames now; and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast. Oh, the humanity!"
Herbert Oglevee "Herb" Morrison reporting the Hindenberg disaster.....36 people were killed
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Solus,
At least that was honest and unedited personal emotion when an unexpected disaster occurred. That was in an era when most people had not been exposed to the constant barrage of violence and disaster we live with today, due to the media. There is nothing in the reporting on the Las Vegas situation that is not well planned by the media >:(
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" it's crashing! It's crashing terrible! Oh, my! Get out of the way, please! It's burning and bursting into flames and the... and it's falling on the mooring mast. And all the folks agree that this is terrible; this is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world. Oh it's... [unintelligible] its flames... Crashing, oh! Four- or five-hundred feet into the sky and it... it's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. It's smoke, and it's in flames now; and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast. Oh, the humanity!"
Herbert Oglevee "Herb" Morrison reporting the Hindenberg disaster.....36 people were killed
George Bush caused the Hindenburg disaster!
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George Bush caused the Hindenburg disaster!
It was HW's fault, because it is his fault that W ended up in the guards playing with guns and planes.
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It was HW's fault, because it is his fault that W ended up in the guards playing with guns and planes.
George Bush caused the Hindenburg disaster!
Finally you guys are getting it....finally. ;)
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George Bush caused the Hindenburg disaster!
Come on guys. The second half of that is:
And you're racist.
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Come on guys. The second half of that is:
And you're racist.
I’m a lesbian too!
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I’m a lesbian too!
You can't be. Lesbians are a politically correct protected species, and racists need to be gassed.
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You can't be. Lesbians are a politically correct protected species, and racists need to be gassed.
Impeccable logic.
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You can't be. Lesbians are a politically correct protected species, and racists need to be gassed.
I do feel kinda gassy!
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I do feel kinda gassy!
Then stay away from open flames
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Then stay away from open flames
My farts smell like rose petals on a dewy summer morn!
;)
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My farts smell like rose petals on a dewy summer morn!
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1. And the check is in the mail
2. Yes I will respect you in the morning
3. I'm from your government, and I am here to help you.
4. It's only a cold sore.
5. You get this one, I'll pay next time.
6. My wife doesn't understand me.
7. Trust me, I'll take care of everything.
8. Of course I love you.
9. I am getting a divorce.
10. Drinking? Why, no, Officer.
11. I never inhaled.
12. It's not the money, it's the principle of the thing.
13. I never watch television except for PBS.
14. ...but we can still be good friends.
15. She means nothing to me.
16. Dont worry, I can go another 20 miles when the gauge is on "empty."
17. I gave at the office.
18. Don't worry, he's never bitten anyone.
19. I'll call you later.
20. We'll release the upgrade by the end of the year.
21. Read my lips: no new taxes
22. I've never done anything like this before
23. Now, I'm going to tell you the truth
24. It's supposed to make that noise.
25. I *love* your new _____!
26. ...then take a left. You can't miss it.
27. Yes, I did.
28. Don't worry, it's OK -- I'm sterile.
29. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.
ANd my favorite as a gun owner
30. Here,,, This gun is unloaded.
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Oh. I forgot.... But I only read Playboy for the articles.
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No the dress doesn't make your butt look big
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You forgot a few gooduns but to maintain a level of decorum, I’ll keep ‘em off this drift!
LOL
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Here, hold my beer. What's the worse that could happen?
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Oh. I forgot.... But I only read Playboy for the articles.
What about the Trans model, don't discriminate based on.... I'll just be over in the corner with everyone else ;)
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What about the Trans model, don't discriminate based on.... I'll just be over in the corner with everyone else ;)
Playmates shouldn't have a penis. I know saying that makes me a horrible person.
No it doesn't. I may not be politically correct but that's not quite a crime yet.
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Who's responsible for checking the kegs this month? That corner is filling up fast, and since we are all vets at this, the brew will go fast :o
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You guys can split my share of the beer. I can't stand the taste of the stuff. But if we ever get the old blender replaced I could use a few Margaritas.