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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Michael Bane on the Radio => Topic started by: Marshal Halloway on August 28, 2007, 10:37:51 PM

Title: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Marshal Halloway on August 28, 2007, 10:37:51 PM

Michael talks about the 1911 and the question #1; Which make & model should I buy?

http://www.downrange.tv/podcast.htm

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Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Dakotaranger on August 29, 2007, 12:21:45 AM
I vote for all of them.

I've got a Gold Cup and a Springer GI

IF I had the money that Wilson Combat is calling my name
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Dakotaranger on August 29, 2007, 12:58:24 AM
Wilson Rogers Magazines?  Are they different from the Wilson Combat Mags?
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: rr4406pak on August 29, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
The 8/29/07 podcast is not showing up on iTunes!
I cannot download it! HELP!

I see it on the website fine but I cannot download it!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: jaybet on August 29, 2007, 05:19:21 PM
My Fault!
I think I was the straw that broke the camel's back with my incessant worrying over which 1911 I was going to get.
It was me who made Michael go over the edge and talk about 1911's like they're the hottest thing since Jessica Beale.
Well, not that hot.
Maybe he'll talk about Jessica Beale if I keep asking....
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Marshal Halloway on August 29, 2007, 11:29:08 PM
The 8/29/07 podcast is not showing up on iTunes!
I cannot download it! HELP!

I see it on the website fine but I cannot download it!
Thanks!

Hi!

I just checked my iTunes and it downloads fine at this end. Could be there was a delay through the iTunes store last night.

Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Walter45Auto on August 30, 2007, 11:06:18 AM
I'm a bit disappointed that he didn't talk more about carrying them, but it was a GOOD podcast.
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Bidah on August 30, 2007, 12:01:46 PM
Lots of good information in that podcast.  Yes, there are lots of places that make them, and so are the variations.  What a way to tackle it Michael.. :)

My newest one is a Springer Loaded, which has digested thousands in the last 2 years, and been through some classes as well. 
My wife carries a Kimber Compact (old one from 1998, and I have one too).  These two have also digested many many rounds without a problem.

Get good mags, just as Michael said.  Almost all mine are Chip McCormick's or Wilson.  I have 4 Kimber magazines that I believe are Chip's.  I have not tried the ACT mags yet.  hmm.. time for some new mags.

-Bidah
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: hodman on August 30, 2007, 12:09:15 PM
OK just listened to the pod cast and I have a few random thoughts.

1.   I am a big fan of the 1911 I have some where around 5 currently (but I haven’t been to a gun store today) and I bet I have owned around 30 so far.
2.   I have a Wilson Combat in 9mm / 38 Super that runs perfect but I have had a Springfield in 9mm that I almost hurled into the wood line one day.
3.   I have a Wilson Supergrade in 45 ACP best handgun I have ever owned (besides the 3 I had before this one) runs perfect on Wilson mags can be choked on other mags. 
4.   I have one of the first Kimber Ultra CDP’s that the custom shop built that runs 100% with Wilson mags.   
5.   I have a STI Eagle 5.0 in 40 that just keeps running but I have 1000.00 in magazines to get it that way.

To sum up my thoughts the further away from a standard 1911 in 45 ACP you get the more it is going to cost to make it run 100% and don’t scrimp on Magazines!
 The only 1911 that I don’t carry or shoot in IDPA or USPSA  with is a Union Switch and Signal that had all value taken out of it in the 70’s (it was about 80% and was made into a gun to shoot IPSC with)

Jon
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Michael Bane on August 30, 2007, 02:34:04 PM
Well, I can talk more about carrying them next week! I was sort of thinking about doing another all-1911 podcast. When I was out at the range a couple of days ago, I ran a bunch of 230-gr ball through my Wayne Novak/GUNSITE S&W lightweight Commander-length — one of my all-time super-deluxe favorite 1911s —  and the little Kimber Ulta Carry II that I had Wayne overhaul.

What a difference a custom gunsmith makes! As you guys know, I'm simply not a big fan of short-slide 1911s (the Ultra Carry's a 3 1/2 inch slide gun) with the exception of the Detonics CombatMaster. I've had the Ultra Carry around for a while, but haven't really put a huge number of rounds through it...it was an instructional gun. Wayne's overhaul made a staggering difference in the little gun. I figured I'd run a few rounds through it and then go to the S&W.

I started at 5 yards, then worked my way back to 15, stopping at 7, 10 and 12. When I was finished I had put 60-70 rounds of Black Hills ball into a single ragged hole, with exactly two fliers less than 1/2 inch from the main group.

HMMMMMMMM, I thought. It seems to working...REAL GOOD! Never had a blip, and I shot the little Kimber every bit as well as my S&W, which is the gun I used on one of my regular trips to GUNSITE and which I have 100% faith in. I may send it BACK to Wayne for a sight replacement (replace the rear Kimber with a Novak and the front with one of Novak's new fiber optic sights, which Wayne says will go the distance).

I can give you a short course in 1911 holsters in a single word...ALESSI. Best there is in leather. For range work I usually use a Blade-tech vertical belt holster or one of the Wilderness Tactical Zip Slides.

Michael B

PS: I agree with Jon...the farther you get from John Browning's basic 5-inch gun, the more likely it is to surprise you in an unpleasant way!
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: WilsonCQB1911 on August 30, 2007, 03:09:55 PM
I LOVED the new podcast devoted just to 1911s.  Like most, they're my favorite style of pistol.

The only thing that killed me was that you covered other calibers, but didn't cover 10mm!!!  I was thinking about getting a fullsize chambered in 10mm and was hoping that you could help narrow my list.  I think I'll get another Wilson CQB since I love my .45acp one so much.
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Bill Stryker on August 30, 2007, 08:18:55 PM
Well, I like the 1911 too. I have enough of them.

But quite frankly, as much as I like mine, after having 1911s for about 50 years, I am more interested in other more modern pistols. How about the other .45s and the Service pistol RFP status. And, we don't see enough on the net about revolvers. Your podcast on revolvers was a favorite and I played the Shooting Gallery on 2" snubbies several times. So, even though I appreciated #21 on the current state of the 1911 market. I did tune you out alot. I would like to see more on other guns and calibers. Maybe more on the black rifles available in a format similar to #21. What is the story on the .357SIG?  If the S&W revolvers with the locks are suspect, which revolvers are better?

Your OL article alluded to other calibers for black rifles and hunting. How about more on that. And -- more on the guns that are vying to replace the old AR15 style.

I liked the .22 piece on SG this week. But there are other .22 rifles besides the Ruger. What about them? e.g. Browning's straight pull .22 or the old classic Auto. How about a few words on both affordable and aspirational .22 rifles.
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Michael Bane on August 30, 2007, 09:24:45 PM
Jeez Bill...now I'm going to have to stay up late working!

You have some great ideas, and I'll see how quickly I can get them up. I got a call from Skip Patel, the CEO of Cobb Mfg, who builds the trickest ARs in the world(20/06s, for example, and multicaliber guns) asking me down to the research facility in GA...I'll take him up on it!

Michael B

PS: Thanks...
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Bill Stryker on August 31, 2007, 09:33:33 AM
Jeez Bill...now I'm going to have to stay up late working!

You have some great ideas, and I'll see how quickly I can get them up. I got a call from Skip Patel, the CEO of Cobb Mfg, who builds the trickest ARs in the world(20/06s, for example, and multicaliber guns) asking me down to the research facility in GA...I'll take him up on it!

Michael B

PS: Thanks...

Michael,
You are welcome. ;D
I always look forward to your output. So, I am pleased you are going to take some of my ideas. You stay up late working anyway! ;)
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: tumblebug on August 31, 2007, 06:16:56 PM
Great idea's Bill I also love my 1911's only have two Dad's COLT MK IV/ SERIES70 he carried as DEPT.& a REMINGTON RAND no.
1750xxx 1944 vintage. A rebuilt FJA not one of the originals. But is a great shooter.Both are stock and shoot better than I do.
Iam about to pass down Dads to my son ; already  gave the daughter the HIPOWER and CCI class for her birthday.Could'nt stand
not having the FN HIPOWER so bought a Charles Daly.Not a FN but still a .HIPOWER. Give one away & and buy two is my motto.
Wonder what I'LL replace the COLT with.
Title: Re: Show #21 - 08/29/07 The neverending market of the 1911
Post by: Overload on September 03, 2007, 03:27:55 PM
Speaking of magazines, has anyone tried the Cobramag?  Just wondering if they work and are worth getting?
Overload in Colorado