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Title: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 17, 2008, 03:13:34 PM
Yes, I put this thread in the "Tactical Rifle & Carbine" section.  ;D


Well, if you are anything like me, you love doing your part to help control the squirrel population in your local subdivision. So I thought I would start a thread about this very subject......


So feel free to share:
*Pics of your tricked out pellet guns and other "suburban sniper gear"
*Strategies about "squirrel control tactics"
*Any other varmints you have "kept the neighborhood safe from"
*Or anything else you might feel worthy of this thread

Because its kill or be killed!
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: wisconsin on September 17, 2008, 10:53:29 PM
LOL. Now I have to go change my shorts  :o
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 19, 2008, 03:33:01 PM
I $@!*! The squirrels are taking revenge on my dog!!! :o
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Big Frank on September 19, 2008, 05:07:32 PM
I talked to a guy who said there are lots of yellow squirrels in this neighborhood. He uses paintballs.  :)  The police have already threatened to take action against me if I ever take my paintball marker outside. They say shooting a gun in the city is against the law. They're too stupid to know the state law says it not a gun. When I informed them, they didn't care because their uninformed opinion is the truth and the law as they see it. I hate cops, except for a couple on the forum. The rest seem to be even more ignorant than the general population.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 19, 2008, 05:35:41 PM
I talked to a guy who said there are lots of yellow squirrels in this neighborhood. He uses paintballs.  :)  The police have already threatened to take action against me if I ever take my paintball marker outside. They say shooting a gun in the city is against the law. They're too stupid to know the state law says it not a gun. When I informed them, they didn't care because their uninformed opinion is the truth and the law as they see it. I hate cops, except for a couple on the forum. The rest seem to be even more ignorant than the general population.

Paintball.............. Fun, but too loud. Besides, I sold all my paintball gear last year because I had not played in about 3 years.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ellis4538 on September 19, 2008, 05:51:18 PM
Had the cute little creatures in the house!  Didn't do too much damage.  Got a live trap and at last count had transplanted 12 to new homes several miles from mine.  Would have shot them but I don't think my wife would have liked holes in everything (would have had to use a .22 - no pellet gun)!!!!!!!!

Richard
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 19, 2008, 06:41:51 PM
Place I used to live there was a nest of them inside the wall of my bedroom. I had no nearby neighbors so I pulled the door casing off and fired a shotgun in there. They were not a problem after that.  ;D
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 19, 2008, 07:24:29 PM
Place I used to live there was a nest of them inside the wall of my bedroom. I had no nearby neighbors so I pulled the door casing off and fired a shotgun in there. They were not a problem after that.  ;D


LMAO!
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Big Frank on September 20, 2008, 02:06:34 AM
ROTF  ;D
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: brosometal on September 20, 2008, 07:56:49 AM
I talked to a guy who said there are lots of yellow squirrels in this neighborhood. He uses paintballs.  :)  The police have already threatened to take action against me if I ever take my paintball marker outside. They say shooting a gun in the city is against the law. They're too stupid to know the state law says it not a gun. When I informed them, they didn't care because their uninformed opinion is the truth and the law as they see it. I hate cops, except for a couple on the forum. The rest seem to be even more ignorant than the general population.

jumbofrank,

The best way to deal with this is to photocopy the law and have several copys available.  When a officer turned lawyer challeges you, politely but firmly show him the law.  Cooperate, but be firm.  You may even wish to contact the commanding officer with your complaint.  Most officers will relize the error of their ways, and the ones that don't are the donkeyholes you suspect they are.
I lived in a relatively small town where the actual law was being ignored for various officer interpretation.  When, as a group my friends and I challeged (politely again) the status quo the matter was rectified.  It cost a friend an hour or so in jail, but the resulting rebuke of the officer from the judge was classic. 

Ultimately, it is the measure of your willingness to challege the uniformed uninformed with something as silly as the above.  If you wish to take the steps, you can change climate in your neck of the woods so you can paint up a couple of offending squirrels.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: TFox2112 on September 20, 2008, 08:11:18 AM
Wife threatens to give away all my firearms incuuding the safe if I shoot squirrells in the back yard. Too bad... tasty little critters. I have to settle for the sheer entertainment value of my squirrell "exercisers". wait until there are a couple (or more) on the feeders and then "release the hounds"
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: CJS3 on September 20, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
You didn't think they would just "take it", did ya
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 20, 2008, 11:02:19 AM
You didn't think they would just "take it", did ya

Those commie squirrel bastards!
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on September 20, 2008, 11:20:18 AM
Had the cute little creatures in the house!  Didn't do too much damage.  Got a live trap and at last count had transplanted 12 to new homes several miles from mine.  Would have shot them but I don't think my wife would have liked holes in everything (would have had to use a .22 - no pellet gun)!!!!!!!!

Richard

I'd of transplanted them ........right into my skillet with some hot biscuits and gravy and fried potatoes .
yummy..... one of my favorites...(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/tasty.gif)
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 20, 2008, 11:53:31 AM
I'd of transplanted them ........right into my skillet with some hot biscuits and gravy and fried potatoes .
yummy..... one of my favorites...(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/tasty.gif)

They are great grilled too.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 20, 2008, 12:01:36 PM
I had to take out a woodpecker today that had been harassing my trees all morning.

(http://www.soloimagen.net/public/dibujosanimados/WoodyWoodpecker1.jpg)
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: brosometal on September 20, 2008, 02:08:54 PM
Its amazing.  You give a rat a bushy tail and they are cute and good to eat.  BBQ raccoon is much tastier, and you can bait them with cat food.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: m25operator on September 20, 2008, 04:00:31 PM
I've had to rewire my phone lines twice due to squirrel damage in the attic. So first I got this.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1410.jpg)

Air Force Talon SS, 22, using Beeman Kodiak, 21.8 grn pellets, it shoots really well, 3/4" 5 shot groups at 50 yards.
But is too loud. And up close, the scope is too high above the muzzle, 25yard zero, it shoots 8" low at 20'.

Now I use a TC Contender carbine in .22lr, using Aquila, Colibri's, 20 grn bullet at 300 fps, very quiet, like using a suppressor, and put behind the ear, or in the back of the neck, drops them with one shot. I'm up to 68 squirrels in the last 3 years.

Being urban tree rats I just chunk them, although my wife has forgotten to put up the bird food, and I've got some fat squirrels due that, may be good eating.

Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Big Frank on September 20, 2008, 07:27:56 PM
jumbofrank,

The best way to deal with this is to photocopy the law and have several copys available.  When a officer turned lawyer challeges you, politely but firmly show him the law.  Cooperate, but be firm.  You may even wish to contact the commanding officer with your complaint.  Most officers will relize the error of their ways, and the ones that don't are the donkeyholes you suspect they are.
I lived in a relatively small town where the actual law was being ignored for various officer interpretation.  When, as a group my friends and I challeged (politely again) the status quo the matter was rectified.  It cost a friend an hour or so in jail, but the resulting rebuke of the officer from the judge was classic. 

Ultimately, it is the measure of your willingness to challege the uniformed uninformed with something as silly as the above.  If you wish to take the steps, you can change climate in your neck of the woods so you can paint up a couple of offending squirrels.

Even when I tell the police what page something is on and they read it in their own book they say things like,"well I don't think that's what it means". I had that problem while trying to register 3 handguns. And after having a few knives confiscated or destroyed I finally have proof that they were legal. I'm not spending several hundred dollars on a lawyer to sue some a-hole for a $140 knife. But the next time I will let them arrest me if I have that much time to kill. My experience with several state and local police makes it seem like none of them have any idea at all what the gun and knife laws are.

I heard that city squirrels taste like crap. They must eat garbage or something like that to affect the taste. .22 CB caps are quieter than some pelet guns. CCI makes them in a Long version that's easier to use in most .22s.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 20, 2008, 10:32:44 PM
Even when I tell the police what page something is on and they read it in their own book they say things like,"well I don't think that's what it means". I had that problem while trying to register 3 handguns. And after having a few knives confiscated or destroyed I finally have proof that they were legal. I'm not spending several hundred dollars on a lawyer to sue some a-hole for a $140 knife. But the next time I will let them arrest me if I have that much time to kill. My experience with several state and local police makes it seem like none of them have any idea at all what the gun and knife laws are.

I heard that city squirrels taste like crap. They must eat garbage or something like that to affect the taste. .22 CB caps are quieter than some pelet guns. CCI makes them in a Long version that's easier to use in most .22s.
Many cities use oaks for street trees, squirrel's eat the acorns which are high in tannic acid and makes the meat bitter. Freinds have mentioned the same thing with deer.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Big Frank on September 20, 2008, 11:46:03 PM
Many cities use oaks for street trees, squirrel's eat the acorns which are high in tannic acid and makes the meat bitter. Freinds have mentioned the same thing with deer.

I thought that's what they ate in the woods too but maybe it's different oaks. Reds oaks taste bad and white oaks taste good. I look for rounded leaves in the woods and not pointy ones when I hunt. Squirrels around here eat black walnuts and hickory nuts too. That stuff on the outside of black walnuts is nasty and they have to chew through it. Maybe that affects the meat too but I was thinking city = garbage, and they are rodents. Now I realize there's more to it.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on September 20, 2008, 11:46:12 PM
Its amazing.  You give a rat a bushy tail and they are cute and good to eat.  BBQ raccoon is much tastier, and you can bait them with cat food.

Yep.. I hunt , clean , cook and eat those too.. ;)
But I still like squirrel better. Our critters around here eat good stuff.. ...meat is excellent.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Big Frank on September 20, 2008, 11:50:23 PM
My mom cooked a coon for my dad once and he wouldn't eat it. He said it looked like a dog on a platter. She should have cut it up first. I think I'll go squirrel hunting next week and any I get can stew and simmer until they're tender. They're too chewy grilled.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2008, 09:19:24 AM
I've had to rewire my phone lines twice due to squirrel damage in the attic. So first I got this.

Air Force Talon SS, 22, using Beeman Kodiak, 21.8 grn pellets, it shoots really well, 3/4" 5 shot groups at 50 yards.
But is too loud. And up close, the scope is too high above the muzzle, 25yard zero, it shoots 8" low at 20'.

Now I use a TC Contender carbine in .22lr, using Aquila, Colibri's, 20 grn bullet at 300 fps, very quiet, like using a suppressor, and put behind the ear, or in the back of the neck, drops them with one shot. I'm up to 68 squirrels in the last 3 years.

Being urban tree rats I just chunk them, although my wife has forgotten to put up the bird food, and I've got some fat squirrels due that, may be good eating.




I thought those would not fire properly in a rifle? Is there something I am missing here? They have a disclaimer that they will not cycle a semi auto or may even get logged in a rifle barrel, and thus should only be shot in a pistol?
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2008, 09:21:10 AM
Many cities use oaks for street trees, squirrel's eat the acorns which are high in tannic acid and makes the meat bitter. Freinds have mentioned the same thing with deer.

I dont eat them either.... I just throw them back into the woods
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: CJS3 on September 21, 2008, 11:30:50 AM

I thought those would not fire properly in a rifle? Is there something I am missing here? They have a disclaimer that they will not cycle a semi auto or may even get logged in a rifle barrel, and thus should only be shot in a pistol?

You have to manually cycle the action (unless it's a bolt or level action). If you're in the city limits and they have laws against discharging a firearm, you could be the object of unwanted LE attention. I have first hand knowledge of this. Fortunately the LEO was more interested on where he could get some of the ammo, and suggested that in my neighborhood I should switch to a pellet gun.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: m25operator on September 21, 2008, 02:54:33 PM
Aguila does have that warning on their website, but in the TC or My Marlin 39a, have had no problems, it does not have the warning on the boxes of ammo I have.  It's really funny, with the 39a, with a scope, you can see the bullets before they hit the target.   This at about 20'.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: tumblebug on September 21, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
 Not UUs again?
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: DesertMarine on September 21, 2008, 05:14:42 PM
Gamo makes a suppressed air rifle.  Velocity is around 1200 fps.  I have a Gamo, unsuppressed, very accurate with a Bushnell 4X scope.  Excellent for scary the hell out of cats at about 40 yds.  Makes a loud noise when you hit the cat in the ribs, they jump about two feet and never see them again.  I have seen the cats afterwards but never come into my yard.  No squirrels in my area, hell, no trees.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Hazcat on September 21, 2008, 05:23:55 PM
Funny thing is guys...I feed the squirrels around here every morning.  Sunflower seeds, must be at least a dozen that show up every am.  Heck, Strech doesn't even bother to chase them anymore!
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2008, 06:09:43 PM
Gamo makes a suppressed air rifle.  Velocity is around 1200 fps.  I have a Gamo, unsuppressed, very accurate with a Bushnell 4X scope.  Excellent for scary the hell out of cats at about 40 yds.  Makes a loud noise when you hit the cat in the ribs, they jump about two feet and never see them again.  I have seen the cats afterwards but never come into my yard.  No squirrels in my area, hell, no trees.

You can bait 'em
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: twyacht on September 22, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
Since the wife won't let me really take care of those dandified rodents, I have a full auto Airsoft rifle that looks like a Bullpup. It shoots about 200 rpm, at 120 fps. With new batteries it thumps them really nicely, and I can chase them if I lead them a bit. 8)

As they pillage my bird feeders, its almost getting to the point of a "Caddyshack" level.

Until I saw this:
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/squirrelwithmachinegun.jpg)
I'll get 'em , if its the last thing I ever do. ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: CJS3 on September 28, 2008, 11:27:59 AM
Funny thing is guys...I feed the squirrels around here every morning.  Sunflower seeds, must be at least a dozen that show up every am.  Heck, Strech doesn't even bother to chase them anymore!

My cat doesn't chase them anymore either.

Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Rastus on October 11, 2008, 03:42:04 PM
Its amazing.  You give a rat a bushy tail and they are cute and good to eat.  BBQ raccoon is much tastier, and you can bait them with cat food.

HAZ...maybe that's why you have the problem with your pool....the cat food and all?
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on October 27, 2008, 01:52:55 PM
Anyone have any experience with the Predator Polymer Tip Pellets?

(http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/22/48/38/i224838sn01.jpg)

They look pretty potent, but are pretty costly.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Rastus on October 27, 2008, 06:43:41 PM
Anyone have any experience with the Predator Polymer Tip Pellets?

(http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/22/48/38/i224838sn01.jpg)

They look pretty potent, but are pretty costly.

They work great.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: ericire12 on November 24, 2008, 10:56:08 AM
Well, I think that the squirrels around my neighborhood have wised up.

Over the last month it seems like they just wont come into my yard anymore, and I have not been able to get one single kill shot. I know that there are a bunch of them just passed the tree line behind my house, and I have seen the remains of their acorn eating in my driveway and on my front step, but they have wised up about my shooting gallery in the backyard. If this keeps up, I may have to start taking drastic measures.  ;D
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: MikeBjerum on November 24, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
Our son uses them on squirrls, possum and rabbits.  However, his favorite is the Gammo pellets.  They cost more, but do a better job with same accuracy.
Title: Re: Calling all suburban snipers
Post by: Fatman on November 24, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
My mom cooked a coon for my dad once and he wouldn't eat it. He said it looked like a dog on a platter.

He's right, lol Coons are in the dog family, philum or whatever the scientific term is. Bears too, if I remember any of my biology. Speaking of which, I was raking the leaves two days ago and stepped in a serious plop all full of seeds and such. Seems 5 years ago, someone bagged an 800 plus lb black around here. Illegally! He got the tag after he shot it.

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Bethlehem man will get another chance to hunt after serving a three-year ban



(http://images.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=PR&Date=20081124&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=811240315&Ref=AR&MaxW=570&MaxH=370&title=1&border=0)
Jason Taddeo shot the 808-pound bear on Dec. 1, 2003. It was a trophy by all accounts, but there was one problem — Taddeo did not own a bear stamp needed to harvest a bear

By Mike Kuhns
Record Sports Writer
November 24, 2008

It's not every year an 800-pound bruin is shot by a hunter.

In 2003, three black bears 800 pounds or larger were killed in Pennsylvania.

But one made headlines.

It was Dec. 1, 2003, when Jason Taddeo of Bethlehem, then 29, pulled the trigger on an 808-pound bruin off Community Drive in Middle Smithfield Township.

It was a trophy by all accounts, but there was one problem — Taddeo did not own a bear stamp needed to harvest a bear.

In the end, Taddeo paid an $800 fine and was unable to purchase a Pennsylvania hunting license for three years. He was able to buy one this year.

Today marks the opening day of this year's three-day bear hunt in Pennsylvania. And, Taddeo said Saturday, he plans on hunting in the park today.

"I'm going (today) and I've got a tag," Taddeo said. "I'm going to the same spot I got him."

The December day is still fresh in the mind of Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area park ranger Chris Kross. Kross was one of the first people to meet up with Taddeo that December 2003 morning.

"I was driving on Community Drive and he was standing outside his vehicle eating a sandwich," Kross said. "He was very up-front. 'Oh yeah, I got a bear,' and something to the effect that it was a good one."

Kross went back into the woods to take a look at the bear Taddeo had killed just about 300 yards off the road. What he saw that day was the biggest bear he'd ever seen.

"It looked like a giant black couch," Kross said. "I was impressed with how big it was."

Kross said initially everything looked in order. The ranger checked the tag on the bear — Taddeo had bought a tag after killing the bear that morning — and the tag was properly filled out.

The bear was field dressed in the woods and someone began taking photos. The celebration of harvesting a trophy bear was under way.

It took eight to 10 men to drag the huge bear out of the woods that day.

"He didn't appear to be hiding anything," Kross said.

Kross said he remembered hunters walking by wanting to see the bear. Word was spreading that a large bruin had been shot.

"I don't know where they all came from," Kross said of the numerous people wanting to see the bear.

But something wasn't right. Hunters began talking about the odd and unusual events after Taddeo shot the bear. It was the hunters who told the park rangers and ultimately the Pennsylvania Game Commission that Taddeo had disappeared after shooting the bear.

That sparked an investigation by Monroe County Wildlife Conservation officer Victor Rosa, who ultimately got Taddeo to tell the truth about what happened that day.

"That's one of the key things, we rely on other hunters as our eyes in the woods for violations," Kross said. "They give up other hunters that are unethical."

Taddeo said he doesn't regret shooting the bear, but said he shouldn't have lied. He said, looking back, that he would handle the aftermath differently, though.

He said he was taking a nap and he woke up the bear 10 yards away. Taddeo claims the bear charged him.

"I think we surprised each other," Taddeo said. "I fell asleep and he stepped on a branch and woke me up. I looked by my right and there he was 10 yards away.

"I think I was so close to him. He felt intimidated and stood his ground."

Taddeo said he didn't even aim his gun before pulling the trigger.

"I shot and ran like hell," he said. "I didn't even know if I hit him."

The hunter wasn't sure how big the bear really was. When he finally heard that the bear tipped the scales at more than 800 pounds, he was excited, but that excitement was tempered.

"As excited as I was, I wasn't excited because I knew I got the tag after the fact," Taddeo said.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first illegal bear shot in Pennsylvania and it most likely won't be the last. Kross said bears are sometimes found in the park with missing paws and gall bladders that are in turn sold.

But park officials and the game commission do try to catch those who illegally kill animals. Park officers continue to run decoy operations and checkpoint stations in an effort to catch those who break the law.

The challenge, though, is a daunting one.

"It's hard to catch them," Kross said.