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Title: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: 1776 Rebel on December 12, 2007, 05:16:37 PM
This little tidbit freaked me out the other day. Apparently the UPS store manager reported a shipment of a gun to the police based on nothing more than it was a gun. From this point on I must assume that police are aware of any and all such shipments from gunsmiths/CMP etc...
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Greenwood Village Police said Wednesday that they investigated Matthew Murray in September, after someone voiced concerns about a weapon being mailed to a post office in Greenwood Village.

The officer went to the UPS Store at 4950 South Yosemite Street and talked to the manager.

"The officer examined the package, and then verified that the owner of the P.O. Box, Matthew Murray, was not wanted by law enforcement. Based on the information obtained by the officer the investigation was concluded," Greenwood Village police said.
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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14839707/detail.html

 
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: DonWorsham on December 12, 2007, 06:02:43 PM
Guns can be shipped to a P.O. box? UPS delivers to a  P.O. box?
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: Jim Urban on December 12, 2007, 06:27:43 PM
Don

The UPS Stores give you an actual street address when you rent one of their Boxes.

So anything that can't be shipped to P.O. Boxes,CAN  be shipped there.

As an example,if you rented a box there,your address at that UPS Store would be...

Don Worsham
4950 South Yosemite St.
#12345
Greenwood Village,Co.


Jim
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 12, 2007, 06:28:56 PM
When ever I have had a gun shipped it has needed to be sent to a FFL at a physical address.  I imagine that it would be possible to use a PO Box or box shipping point if the actual recipient (FFL) signed for it to get it, but those that have shipped to me have always used the address on the FFL..
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: Hazcat on December 12, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
When ever I have had a gun shipped it has needed to be sent to a FFL at a physical address.  I imagine that it would be possible to use a PO Box or box shipping point if the actual recipient (FFL) signed for it to get it, but those that have shipped to me have always used the address on the FFL..

Black powder and CMP guns are shipped to your door.   Also you can get a C&R license for around 300.00 and have those types (C&R) guns shipped directly to you.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: jj on December 12, 2007, 07:13:29 PM
Note!   there is a big difference between UPS and USPS,
UPS ( the guys in the brown truck ) and USPS ( United States Postal Service )
You can NOT mail a hand gun thur the Postal Service..........
But you can thur UPS...
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: clayflingythingy on December 12, 2007, 09:02:30 PM
In the aftermath of Waco, wasn't there a report that the UPS "reported large ammunition deliveries to the Branch Davidians" (or words to that effect) to the feds before the raid?
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: Dakotaranger on December 13, 2007, 05:00:15 AM
In the aftermath of Waco, wasn't there a report that the UPS "reported large ammunition deliveries to the Branch Davidians" (or words to that effect) to the feds before the raid?
What's a large shipment?
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: cookie62 on December 13, 2007, 09:03:10 AM
What's a large shipment?

Depends on whether or not your mail man is a gun guy or not. Some might think I get to many gun mags, some might look at them on there way to my house :D.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: joemerchant24 on December 13, 2007, 10:35:42 AM
Large ammo shipment =

(Me) 10,000 rounds or more

(Feds) More than one box


Also, a C&R runs $35, not $300. I recommend you get one now before the ATF does away with them. I've never bought a C&R gun, but I use mine to get the dealer discount at Midway and Brownell's.

I also believe that if you sent a gun in for service, say to Springfield, they can send the gun directly back to you. Don't quote me, but I think that's right.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: bravo308 on December 13, 2007, 11:46:39 AM
howdo you get a c&r?
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: Hazcat on December 13, 2007, 01:02:34 PM
howdo you get a c&r?

Look at this link. http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31304

It explains it pretty well (scroll down for instructions) and has a list of C&R Dealers.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: Bidah on December 13, 2007, 02:04:27 PM
I have found more anti gun or gun ignorant people at UPS stores than anywhere else.

-Bidah
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: DonWorsham on December 13, 2007, 02:19:59 PM
Also, a C&R runs $35...I use mine to get the dealer discount at Midway and Brownell's.

I also believe that if you sent a gun in for service, say to Springfield, they can send the gun directly back to you. Don't quote me, but I think that's right.

Yes,  the gun manufacture ships the gun back to your home address. Thanks for the tip on C&R. I'll  look into that.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: joemerchant24 on December 13, 2007, 03:14:34 PM
I have found more anti gun or gun ignorant people at UPS stores than anywhere else.

-Bidah

Don't hang out around City Hall or the Statehouse, huh?

Don -- I saved enough on one order from Midway to pay for the C&R twice over.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: jaybet on December 13, 2007, 03:30:54 PM
Here's a stupid question...What's a C&R?
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: tumblebug on December 13, 2007, 04:28:10 PM
CURIO OR RELIC I think
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: clayflingythingy on December 13, 2007, 07:22:59 PM
Here's a stupid question...What's a C&R?

A curio & relic license allows you to order all those nifty milsurps advertised in Shotgun News as C&R eligible and have them shipped straight to you instead of your FFL, cutting out the $25 your dealer gets for doing the transaction. How much ATF BS is involved I don't know. And how much future ATF buttsniffing you will have to endure as a result of being issued the license I don't know either.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: jaybet on December 14, 2007, 07:12:33 AM
A curio & relic license allows you to order all those nifty milsurps advertised in Shotgun News as C&R eligible and have them shipped straight to you instead of your FFL, cutting out the $25 your dealer gets for doing the transaction. How much ATF BS is involved I don't know. And how much future ATF buttsniffing you will have to endure as a result of being issued the license I don't know either.
Gee, I'm not much on buttsniffing.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: DonWorsham on December 14, 2007, 08:49:03 AM
Gee, I'm not much on buttsniffing.

Gee, then how do you know friend from foe?  :D
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: jaybet on December 14, 2007, 09:08:21 AM
Gee, then how do you know friend from foe?  :D
That's easy- no one likes me.
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: DonWorsham on December 14, 2007, 09:11:44 AM
That's easy- no one likes me.

Hmm... I like jazz and I like .45s... you may smell good to me.  ;D
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: cookie62 on December 14, 2007, 10:41:13 AM
Hmm... I like jazz and I like .45s... you may smell good to me.  ;D

I'll shake a guys hand, buttsniffing, I don't think so. ;)
Title: Re: monitoring gun and ammo shipment in mail
Post by: jaybet on December 14, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
I'll shake a guys hand, buttsniffing, I don't think so. ;)
With the state of things these days buttsniffing is probably more sanitary.