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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Shooting Gallery on Outdoor Channel => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on March 22, 2011, 02:39:19 PM
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Cool departure from normal. ;)
I gotta admit that room/building clearing with an M60, a Mare's Leg, and a "stumpy pump" sets an all new 'tacti-cool' standard. ;D ;D
Thanks for another great season of Shooting Gallery.......look forward to many more.
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Just finished watching a little while ago. I really want one of those little lever guns now. Good show!
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Yea that was a cool change and looked fun as hell.
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Please, oh please, tell me that I didn't see MB and friend firing blanks directly at living humans in makeup! Seems to me I read something about not pointing guns at anything you are not willing to destroy. Fun is fun, but it doesn't trump safety.
I thought the whole zombie thing was a bit silly, but "what-ever," as my daughter would say.
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Why did it look like I was OD'ing on Viagra?
Video had a very blue tint - like they say your vision gets when you' got too much Viagra octane in your pipes.
(all your break away videos like form the Dr... and your public service message were OK video color wise)
Other than that.... BRAVO!
P.S. Why did I keep thinking the female zombie graphic looked like Hillary in her "special week"?
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Why did it look like I was OD'ing on Viagra?
Video had a very blue tint - like they say your vision gets when you' got too much Viagra octane in your pipes.
(all your break away videos like form the Dr... and your public service message were OK video color wise)
Other than that.... BRAVO!
P.S. Why did I keep thinking the female zombie graphic looked like Hillary in her "special week"?
Because you've never seen the Hillibeast at that time of the month.
That was actually Hilly on a good week. ;D
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Great show, another hit for Shooting Gallery! 8)
Well done MB!!!!
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I have thought of asking this question for a while, and with today's show I will do it:
What is with all the zombie stuff over the last decade? Each year we get more and more of it. Twenty years ago zombies were an occasional movie or book topic, but since 2000 there are more and more movies each year. Last weekend I was having my morning coffee and looking at what movie would be on the Encore channels that evening. On my way through the day I counted over ten movies based on zombies. Not only do we talk (I thought joked) about it on here, but now it is taking over one of our favorite shooting and self defense shows.
What's Up ???
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Have you actually looked at the average voter recently? :o
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LOL!
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Considering we graduate over a million students every year that are illiterate, it's no wonder!
Ya gotta aspire to something in life! Zombieism is easily a minimum wage gig, ain't it?
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When I was a teenager in the '80s there was a documentary on Zombies called "Thriller" which had a profound impact on me and others of my generation. Just a matter of time until the dead come to life again and we are due (every 25-30 years.)
I suggest we perpetuate the Zombie concern, my gun safe is much fuller because of it; you never know. Got my eye on a Mossberg Cruiser, the ultimate Zombie deterrent.
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I forget where I read it, but there was an article about zombie movies verses alien invasion movies. Basically zombie infestations were better than invasions because, with zombies, you could still hang out at the mall, or break into Bill Murry's house and drink his liquor. If there was an alien invasion, everything would get blasted to hell and you'd have to make a drastic change to your lifestyle just to survive. With zombies, just make sure you had plenty of ammo (or a piano for zombie kill of the day) for your trip to the store and gas station.
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Go to Amazon and check out the number of zombie books...
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Twitchers. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Those scenes took 2 14-hour days and 2 additional 8-hour days to film, because we DIDN'T point the guns at our zombies...it took a minimum of 5 separate camera shots (and a very wide lens!) to make sure we had the angle right so it appeared we were shooting directly at the zoms. It wasn't unusual to run the #1 camera and 5 separate POV cameras at all sorts of odd angles, then reverse the main camera and do it all again. We also had an armorer on site who tested the blanks, acted at safety officer on the shots, etc.
The only exception was when I shot my friend Tom Judd (in the flight suit and helmet) up close with the mare's leg. Tom was wearing body armor with a rifle plate. We still had to do the shot numerous times because we had to make sure the shot was angled at almost a 45-degree angle down so the blast would be directed the right way. I thought the finished product looked great...we have superb editors!
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I love this show... definitely practical & beneficial!
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Like I said before, it looked fun as hell. I bet it was a blast to make.
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I really liked that sudden, up-close, reaction shot with the shorty that Alan took on the limper coming in from his left.
That was alright. ;D
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Go to Amazon and check out the number of zombie books...
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That would keep my lips moving the rest of this life and through my own zombie years!
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The nation is covered with zombies right now.......they are all walking around in condition white, texting, and drinking half-caff-vanilla-mocha-chinos.
;D
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I hate to be mister party pooper, but it just wasn't for me. Sorry. I guess I'll go down in the negative column. I know what you were trying to accomplish, but I don't think it was there. Maybe, I'm just not into all the video games. I am after all more of the "Adventure" game generation. <xyzzy>
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"Serpent and the Rainbow" was the movie that did it for me. ;D
It's cyclical, in the 80's and 90's we had the slasher movies, "Halloween", Friday the 13th,"Childs Play" and the ever popular "Nightmare on Elm St.", One studio will come up with a good one and all the others will try to cash in on it.
Plus, it has an aspect of nonviolent violence to it. Yes, your shooting them in the head, whacking them with axes, machete's and clubs, but they are already dead so it doesn't offend the "Thou shall not kill, or play with war toys" crowd.
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Those scenes took 2 14-hour days and 2 additional 8-hour days to film, because we DIDN'T point the guns at our zombies...it took a minimum of 5 separate camera shots (and a very wide lens!) to make sure we had the angle right so it appeared we were shooting directly at the zoms. It wasn't unusual to run the #1 camera and 5 separate POV cameras at all sorts of odd angles, then reverse the main camera and do it all again. We also had an armorer on site who tested the blanks, acted at safety officer on the shots, etc.
The only exception was when I shot my friend Tom Judd (in the flight suit and helmet) up close with the mare's leg. Tom was wearing body armor with a rifle plate. We still had to do the shot numerous times because we had to make sure the shot was angled at almost a 45-degree angle down so the blast would be directed the right way. I thought the finished product looked great...we have superb editors!
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MB,
If'n peeps are wondering if ya was safe then ya done good! I KNOW you always put firearm safety at the pinnacle.
It was FUN to watch and well done. Ya, I could pick (IMHO m60 not a good choice for the scenario) BUT then again ya go with what ya got in real life.
The Mares leg and Judge were COOL. (GREAT CHOICES)
FUN, FUN, FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bow to the Master!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Serpent and the Rainbow" was the movie that did it for me. ;D
I couldn't bring myself to sit in a wooden straight-chair for months. :o ;D
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MB,
LOOK at the threads on this show!
Ya got peeps wondering if ya was safe. I didn't wonder BUT I was curious at how you pulled it off! GREAT film work and camera angles!
If'n peeps are wondering if ya was safe then ya done good! I KNOW you always put firearm safety at the pinnacle.
It was FUN to watch and well done. Ya, I could pick (IMHO m60 not a good choice for the scenario) BUT then again ya go with what ya got in real life.
The Mares leg and Judge were COOL. (GREAT CHOICES)
FUN, FUN, FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bow to the Master!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It was the most grueling 4 days of filming I've even been through...the weather was bitterly cold, and somewhere around 9PM each shooting day I just crawled home and collapsed...
BTW, I wanted to do this episode because we are looking at a wholesale change on the SG format for next year...as much as I love the show (and as big a success as it has become), I believe in the Darwinian Imperative...adapt or die. It made sense to me to change the show while we're on top, and I wanted to do a last episode in the old format.
I finished the first draft of the new SG today, and I have meetings on it all day tomorrow...several people have mentioned to me that I'm taking a risk changing a successful show...I told them that's what I do...I hope I'm not a complete idiot!
And Alf, don't worry, Brother...at least you didnd't send me an email threatening my life!
LOL!
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BTW, if you're in teh Denver area, we're going to have a party over at Alan Samuel's MACHINEGUN TOURS store in Lakewood, CO, Saturday from noon to 5PM. All Forum members in the area are, of course, invited.
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Considering we graduate over a million students every year that are illiterate, it's no wonder!
Ya gotta aspire to something in life! Zombieism is easily a minimum wage gig, ain't it?
On top of your game lately, eh?
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The post modern poli-sci explanation is simple. Movies express a fictionalized version of our collective fears. During the Cold war it was alien invasions and body snatchers, a view of commie subversives and a Russian attack. They didn't make it explicit because it would be seen as over the top. Ever wonder why "Red Dawn" wasn't made in the early sixties or late fifties? I do, hell it should have been a no brainer, but it never happened. The zombie thing is explained as a gen X thing where foks distrust authority and fear not subversion from without, but brain washing from within turning us all ito evil mindless drones who eat the brains of normal folks. I take this with a grain of salt, but it does make a certain degree of sense. The greatest benefit of post modernism is that it makes us look at art as a commodity. We used to ask "What did the author indend and what sort of sybolism did he use?" I'm still scarred for life from an English teacher who obbsesed over that damn green light in "The Great Gatsby". Po-mo on the other hand asks a different question. They say "Screw the author. Why do millions of people shell out their money and time to read or watch this stuff? What makes it resonate to a particular audience at a particular time"? Its a good question to ask.
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The post modern poli-sci explanation is simple.
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Dude, you have never given a simple answer. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Dude, you have never given a simple answer. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Peg, in my years in school, I rarely had a professor that knew went to shut the f..k up!
FQ is no different!
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I just hope the Zombie eat all the vampires and wearwolves. I don't have any silver or wooden bullets.
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The post modern poli-sci explanation is simple. Movies express a fictionalized version of our collective fears. During the Cold war it was alien invasions and body snatchers, a view of commie subversives and a Russian attack. They didn't make it explicit because it would be seen as over the top. Ever wonder why "Red Dawn" wasn't made in the early sixties or late fifties? I do, hell it should have been a no brainer, but it never happened. The zombie thing is explained as a gen X thing where foks distrust authority and fear not subversion from without, but brain washing from within turning us all ito evil mindless drones who eat the brains of normal folks. TO LATE We done been scrubbed I take this with a grain of salt, but it does make a certain degree of sense. The greatest benefit of post modernism is that it makes us look at art as a commodity. We used to ask "What did the author indend and what sort of sybolism did he use?" I'm still scarred for life from an English teacher who obbsesed over that damn green light in "The Great Gatsby". Po-mo on the other hand asks a different question. They say "Screw the author AND the editor, and the Producer, and a couple of the camera crew . Why do millions of people shell out their money and time to read or watch this stuff? What makes it resonate to a particular audience at a particular time"? Its a good question to ask.
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Needed a couple edits ;D
FQ has a point though, Corporate America spends more money on developing Viagra and Pumping up boobs than on prosthetics for our wounded troops.
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Peg, in my years in school, I rarely had a professor that knew went to shut the f..k up!
FQ is no different!
We get paid by the word Tim. ;D But seriously, it is a valid point. WHY do people plunk down cash to watch ziombies? Why no Red Dawn in the fifties? Why alien body snatchers? All three genres reflect a time, place and cultural zeitgeist. Its worth looking at as it tells us a hell of a lot more about our collective mindset than some stupid poll and a statistical analysis. Want to know what people think and care about? Tell me where they spend their leisure time.
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You should see my emails! I think I got one from Quadafi and he's calling fatwa on my butt...
It was darn fun...and I am committed to keeping that darn mare's leg! What a cool gun to shoot!
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Is the mares leg a SBR or is it a pistol in .44 mag?
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It's a .44 Magnum pistol...amazingly, it fed Specials straight out of the box. I sketched out a design for a holster for it! And I'm going to get Steve Young at Steve's Gunz to give me a standard lever...heck, I might shoot it in a SASS match because...well...because!
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It's a .44 Magnum pistol...amazingly, it fed Specials straight out of the box. I sketched out a design for a holster for it! And I'm going to get Steve Young at Steve's Gunz to give me a standard lever...heck, I might shoot it in a SASS match because...well...because!
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MB,
Have you tried Blazer (steel / aluminum?) case 44 special? That will not feed in my Rossi lever.
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Sweeet ! I'm watching it again right now for the third time. M60 a perferation tool... That should be as famous as... do you feel lucky punk, well do ya. Keep up the good work.
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Haz, I've had some trouble with the aluminum case .44s...Mabel a flex in he aluminum casevwhen it's levered in?
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Rob: Keep watching!
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Great show! Sign me up!
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I watch all the time and DVR it so I can watch them again all thru the week. I've gotta get me a shirt like the black one with the red webs like you have. Way too cool.
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I would like to see more gun smithing work on the show and more from cylinder ans slide.
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Rob, I'm looking at doing that, sort of in the style of SON OF GUN....
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Cool... some shows seem to zero in on the shooters and their skill, which is good. I'm a gun lover and more interested in the guns and how they work.
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Count me with Rob. It's good to know there are others who share my interest in the craftsmanship aspect.
He even has a TV ;D
PLEASE, post some of that video here. Please ! ;D
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Thinking of filming a Hamilton Bowen project from the ground up...
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It's a .44 Magnum pistol...amazingly, it fed Specials straight out of the box. I sketched out a design for a holster for it! And I'm going to get Steve Young at Steve's Gunz to give me a standard lever...heck, I might shoot it in a SASS match because...well...because!
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I would love a mares leg, I dont think some how they would be legal down here unfortunately.
A more perfect appocalypse gun you could never want for though. Compact, accurate, light, plenty of firepower.
Get it slicked by Nate and it be a gem to shoot and havea hoot with.
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Thinking of filming a Hamilton Bowen project from the ground up...
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Outstanding idea.
I'm with the other guys on the 'smithing side of the firearms fence, and can think of none better for six-guns than Hamilton Bowen. I also love his contributory articles for American Handgunner and Guns Magazine. He is quite the writer with a keen sense of humor.
A show profiling one of his builds would be welcomed by this fan of his work.
JMHO, FWIW
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When did I start believing in Zombies? It was during the last Presidential campaign. Did you ever notice the folks that were behind the podium when BHO spoke? Their eyes had that typical glazed over look. Their mouths were shaped in that "OOOOOOOOOOOOO" configuration. Typical of Zombiosis, their thought processes and common sense began to disappear. An aura appeared around BHO that screamed "You owe me Awe!"
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I had to join the form to comment. I think the show "jumped the shark".
Sorry
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I would love a mares leg, I dont think some how they would be legal down here unfortunately.
A more perfect appocalypse gun you could never want for though. Compact, accurate, light, plenty of firepower.
Get it slicked by Nate and it be a gem to shoot and havea hoot with.
Sledge, You can keep it in my safe. Hell I'll even brake it in for ya.
I'm just that kinda guy!!!!
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Such a fun episode! A wickedly cool departure from the norm. Now I know where I'll go when the zombie apocalypse starts.
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Absolutely LOVED it, some folks just have no imagination anymore! ???
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Peg, TomBogan, you guys are in luck...the in-depth Hamilton Bowen piece made the cut in today's SG editorial meeting for 2012...
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Sweet ! I look forward to that.
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Peg, TomBogan, you guys are in luck...the in-depth Hamilton Bowen piece made the cut in today's SG editorial meeting for 2012...
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YIPPIE !! ;D
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I had to pipe in, I loved the show. The most entertaining show I have seen in a long time. It was exactly what we B.S. about at work most of the day.
Great job
Keep it up, I look forward to this show all week.
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Loved and miss the M-60. Cleared many areas with one and the E3 model (Fell apart often). Loud as hell when you have to fire indoors. I remember being the recipient as an OpFor and being about three feet from one firing directly at me. My ears rang for a day. We were not wearing hearing protection during that Air Force exercise.
I agree with Pegleg about the change from the norm on the show. Skip the doctors and commetators and stick to killing more zombies on the next show, LOL. Nothing like a dead zombie. ;D
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Peg, TomBogan, you guys are in luck...the in-depth Hamilton Bowen piece made the cut in today's SG editorial meeting for 2012...
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YIPPIE !! ;D
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What he said!!!! :D
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Peg, TomBogan, you guys are in luck...the in-depth Hamilton Bowen piece made the cut in today's SG editorial meeting for 2012...
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Great! I just started a gunsmithing course. It's only online for now, but I don't know how long my job is going to last, so I'm preparing for a possible new career path. Anyway, would love to see more of that type of show.
P.S. I saw on the internets the other day that the History Channel was looking for a shop to do their own version of Sons of Guns in. The more the merrier.
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When did I start believing in Zombies? It was during the last Presidential campaign. Did you ever notice the folks that were behind the podium when BHO spoke? Their eyes had that typical glazed over look. Their mouths were shaped in that "OOOOOOOOOOOOO" configuration. Typical of Zombiosis, their thought processes and common sense began to disappear. An aura appeared around BHO that screamed "You owe me Awe!"
It's been posted before, but it's so appropriate here:
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Michael, I'll offer up one of my 3 screws for the Hamilton Bowen Show (as long as I get it back when He's done working his magic) ;D I couldn't think of a better choice for Gunsmithing a Ruger Blackhawk
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Man, I missed the zombie episode. Is it up on the web anywhere?