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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Rastus on November 09, 2016, 06:38:58 AM
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22 LR had dried up, some of the 5.56 and 7.62 prices seemed stubbornly higher with 9MM and other bulk pistol trending with the rifle ammo.
If we see more ammo available, especially 22 LR and lower overall pricing, we'll know the dealers were stocked up for post election blitz and may now need to liquidate post-election to avoid holding the bag on stock that will be available more cheaply in the future.
So if availability goes up and prices go down this week it will be a clue for me to wait for the next shipments from the manufacturers to hit the suppliers for possibly even lower pricing.
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We can hope.
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Ammo seems to be plentiful and reasonably priced around here. Didn't really check .22. I will have a better idea Saturday when I finally get to a gun show again.
Richard
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......If we see more ammo available, especially 22 LR and lower overall pricing, we'll know the dealers were stocked up for post election blitz and may now need to liquidate post-election to avoid holding the bag on stock that will be available more cheaply in the future.....
It appears it's already happening. CDNN is offering 5 FREE P-Mags with every AR-15 purchase. (Good prices on AR's as well). So you know they're stocked to the rafters with both. No way they would be offering that if Clinton had won.
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=99c3876c30b42968d4190988b&id=f0051ff372&e=c4f33ff264
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Looks like it Bill. I'm going to the big Wanenmacher's Gun Show this afternoon. I'll get a good gauge on where we are headed but...I think we already know.
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Just visited a gun show today. Lots of stuff everywhere and at reasonable prices. .22 Ammo also. I know a guy who has 10000 to sell but shipping might be a bit much! LOL
Richard
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Went to the gun show yesterday. Traffic down about 40-50%.
Saw 22 LR cheaper than online prices at individual's tables. Ammo dealer prices for centerfire were down from before but not quite to some of the bulk providers online.
Guns in general weren't moving. Used beater double barrel shotguns were moving.
The pricing was definitely Trump pricing. Yet every seller was happy it was Trump pricing and not wicked witch pricing.
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Trump's win, especially when connected to both wins in the House and Senate, have really settled things down. I would have hated to see what it would have been like under the bitch. I think she would have triggered an even bigger scare than Obama did in 2008. And that was bad.
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Online prices are not really falling yet. I suppose it will take a couple of weeks.
Now, I'd like to know your opinion, but I'm thinking hold pat until next year on any bulk purchases. It should take a couple of weeks for the sellers to start seeing the product piling up (assuming that's true) and then a few more weeks afterwards for the manufacturer's to see what's what.
Then there is Christmas sales and then we'll have the first real drop afterwards. That will mostly be dealer stock.
It will take 2-5 months after that for manufacturer prices to bottom out.
Whaddya' think?
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Online prices are not really falling yet. I suppose it will take a couple of weeks.
Now, I'd like to know your opinion, but I'm thinking hold pat until next year on any bulk purchases. It should take a couple of weeks for the sellers to start seeing the product piling up (assuming that's true) and then a few more weeks afterwards for the manufacturer's to see what's what.
Then there is Christmas sales and then we'll have the first real drop afterwards. That will mostly be dealer stock.
It will take 2-5 months after that for manufacturer prices to bottom out.
Whaddya' think?
I think you're wise to wait.... At least until after Christmas. Between Trump's victory, and people being spent out after all the Christmas buying, there will be deals galore. I'm guessing around mid January we'll start seeing some real bargains in both guns and ammunition.
Trump already mentioned on his 60 Minutes interview, how he intends to pick Supreme Court Justices that will protect the Second Amendment. Each time he does that it puts more comfort in the minds of gun owners. That will translate to less demand and lower prices as buyers no longer feel threatened. At least to nowhere near the degree they did under Obama. This whole gun sales thing has been hot and heavy for a long time. It's due to relax for a while. Now with Trump in place, it will. My only worry is with the left going so far off the rails, I pray nothing happens to him.
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Most all of the E-Mails I've gotten since the election are already showing big discounts on magazines across the board.
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I picked up 20 of the D&H aluminum mags from Palmetto State for $8.99 before the election....they went to $6.99 a couple of days ago. I had wanted 30....glad I waited.
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I picked up 20 of the D&H aluminum mags from Palmetto State for $8.99 before the election....they went to $6.99 a couple of days ago. I had wanted 30....glad I waited.
My guess is there are literally millions of these things warehoused across the country. I'll bet Cheaper Than Dirt was stacked to the ceiling with them. Hoping to scalp them off if Clinton had won. Now there will be sales everywhere. They won't lose money on them. They just won't make anywhere near what they had hoped to.
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Cheaper than Dirt would have to price them at $2.99 each to get me to buy from them.
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Cheaper than Dirt would have to price them at $2.99 each to get me to buy from them.
You got that right. I am still waiting on a partial order from 5-8 years back. Plus the "member" BS and shipping costs....
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Cheaper than Dirt would have to price them at $2.99 each to get me to buy from them.
Yep.
And then I still might not even at that price.
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Got a Cabela's email. Their promotion is "Pull the Trigger" Again.
Basically it's free shipping on order over $99. Code 6THANKS.
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You got that right. I am still waiting on a partial order from 5-8 years back. Plus the "member" BS and shipping costs....
They will screw you in a New York minute on "Shipping". I have refused to deal with them for years now.
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I just got a E-Mail from Brownell's this morning. They are showing a 10 pack of windowed Mag-Pul 30 round P-Mags for just $149.99. ($15 bucks each). That is about the lowest I've seen Gen 3, Windowed P-Mags in a long time. And Brownell's is rarely the cheapest when it comes to anything. Everything is trending downward in price quickly. By the time the new year rolls around, things should really get cheap and plentiful.
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Aha! Palmetto State Armory just put 55 grain American Eagle 223 out on "Black Friday" sale for $299 today. The 500 round Tula spam can in 223 that just came in...still $189.
This is the new normal...maybe a bit high. However, most of their other sale prices reflected their costs from weeks ago....to their credit still cheaper than many of their competitors were.
The reality of lower ammo prices still doesn't appear to have sunk in....that or AR component pricing.
I did see MagPul mags under $10 somewhere...did not say which generation but it looked like G2 to me.
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Yesterday Cabela's had brass cased, boxer primed Fiocchi 115 Gr. FMJ 9 MM for $9.99 a box with no limit. I bought 6 boxes. I didn't really need it, but I had a $10.00 off coupon so that knocked it down to just $8.32 a box. There were people carrying cases of the stuff up to the registers. They had 2 pallets of it in the aisle. And I don't doubt several more in the back, because they left the pallet jack right next to it.
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Aha! Palmetto State Armory just put 55 grain American Eagle 223 out on "Black Friday" sale for $299 today. The 500 round Tula spam can in 223 that just came in...still $189.
This is the new normal...maybe a bit high. However, most of their other sale prices reflected their costs from weeks ago....to their credit still cheaper than many of their competitors were.
The reality of lower ammo prices still doesn't appear to have sunk in....that or AR component pricing.
I did see MagPul mags under $10 somewhere...did not say which generation but it looked like G2 to me.
Sportsmans Guide had the Wolf 5.56 "military" (un-coated, vs the WPA which is poly coated steel) on sale for $105 per 500.... which is down from the $130 I paid last month (that is with the 10% mark-up for non-member and free shipping).
Walmart has the TulAmmo for $5.84 per box.
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And gun prices, especially AR build parts?
AIM this afternoon is offering for $139, no shipping charge.
Anderson A3 Uppser (no dust cover)
AIM Bolt Carrier Group
Charging Handle
I suspect the deals will get better come 1/17
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Complete AR-15 with forward assist for just $469.00. I remember when they were more than a Ruger Mini 14. Now they're half as much. Prices are plummeting.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/dpms-panther-oracle-rifle-rfa3oc-223-remington556-nato-collapsible-stock-black-finish-p-120958.html
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http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AHSAM1905 (http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AHSAM1905)
Hotshot Elite from Slovak Republic. 9MM at $180/1000 rounds.
Anyone ever use this stuff?
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My Google Foo couldn't bring up anything particularly bad, or good, about it. Been around for a while as I find comments going back to 2009. Back then ammo was in short supply and it was priced at $325. But then so was most 9mm if you could find it.
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The Armory has 223 Wolf gold at $298/1000 rds.
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Primers, especially Federal Small Pistol are scarce.
Just got an email flyer from Brunos and they had Fed 100s so I bought 5k. Trouble is, with shipping and hazmat they're 5.1 cents apiece, not my normal 3. At least I have some in stock now as I was getting low.
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Complete AR-15 with forward assist for just $469.00. I remember when they were more than a Ruger Mini 14. Now they're half as much. Prices are plummeting.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/dpms-panther-oracle-rifle-rfa3oc-223-remington556-nato-collapsible-stock-black-finish-p-120958.html
Yep...... just wait 'til the week after Christmas and the seasonal buying fuss is over.
Sportsman's Guide sent an email today advertising an Anderson AR complete for $449 (upper ships direct to you and lower to FFL).
They have been selling for around $525 to $600 (depending on brand) for the last six months through a few small-operation local FFLs in my area....I calculate those prices to also begin to drop.
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Been on the notification list of several vendors for Federal Small Pistol Primers.
Got an email from Reloading Unlimited that they had these in stock. They sent the email at 2:44pm and I got it a 4:44pm. Went directly to their web site and "Out of Stock. No Backorder."
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just bought a case of 16 ga # 8 1 oz shot win super x for $11.78 a box. cheapest I have seen it, since obummer took office. I bought it more for the hulls then I did for the loaded ammo.
<<< addicted to 16 ga.
the hulls new are $.29/ each. I paid $.47 loaded. primers are $.03, shot is $.18 wads total $.06 powder is $.06
so I actually came out a head for the 1st load. I average about 5 reloads per hull. I figure this will last me about a year now that I have a place and a trap machine. next year it will be with in 100' of my back door.
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I think the "dam" on prices is about to start spilling over. Lot's of hype and slight lowering of price right now in general.
I'm still not seeing, for instance, 115 grain 9MM commonly offered at $200/1000 or 55 grain 5.56 Nato at $300/1000.
I think those days are just down the road..... ;D
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I'm still not seeing, for instance, 115 grain 9MM commonly offered at $200/1000 or
LGS is running Atlanta Arms 115gr 9mm at $209. Getting close
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I think it's here. Natchez Shooters Supply running MagTech 115 grain 9MM $189.99/1000! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adder: Aim Surplus at 199.50 for Fiocchi 115 grain 9MM. Also Wolf gold on 55 grain 223 for $299.50.
I expect to see prices tumble from here....this is my theme song:
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And I have no idea why I picked this song.....
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just bought a case of 16 ga # 8 1 oz shot win super x for $11.78 a box. cheapest I have seen it, since obummer took office. I bought it more for the hulls then I did for the loaded ammo.
<<< addicted to 16 ga.
the hulls new are $.29/ each. I paid $.47 loaded. primers are $.03, shot is $.18 wads total $.06 powder is $.06
so I actually came out a head for the 1st load. I average about 5 reloads per hull. I figure this will last me about a year now that I have a place and a trap machine. next year it will be with in 100' of my back door.
I thought I was alone being a .16 gauge shooter and now it is good to know that at least there is another
.16 addict on the forum. 8)
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I like them too. I have my dad's Mossberg 16 gauge bolt action.....older than me kicks like a mule. Love it
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I know the title is Ammo Prices,
AIM has Anderson stripped lowers for $39.95 and stripped uppers for $39.95. Cheapest ever I think.
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I know the title is Ammo Prices,
AIM has Anderson stripped lowers for $39.95 and stripped uppers for $39.95. Cheapest ever I think.
That is the best priced I have seen on AL lowers.
I picked up 3 Tegra Arms Carbonfiber lowers for $35 a couple of years ago on an IG Flash sale. I asked the wife if I could spend a $100 on a lower, $105 shipped was approved and I picked them up at my Gun Range for a $18 NICS Check. I built one and I am contiplating giving the other two to my son and soon to be DIL, January 28th up at Hungry Horse Montana (brrr....)
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And they're dropping. Adv Outdoors, LGS, has
DPMS Oracle AR in 5.56 $429.99
American Tactical Omni Hybred Maxx AR in 5.56 $399.99
As I heard on sales rep at a store recently explain to a customer, you can buy'm a lot cheaper these days than you can build'm youself.
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Have picked up plastic 100 round sleeves of CCI minimags for $7.47 lately, $7.92 with tax on a couple of occasions lately. It's been several years since I've seen it at WallyWorld.