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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on November 05, 2023, 12:36:40 AM
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Let's say you have a friend that lives in another state that has been looking for a gun for years. You find one in a local pawn shop.
The pawn shop refuses to do a sale where he buys it and then ships it to his ffl.
How can you legally get this gun to him?
Buying it for him is technically illegal. Both live in free states.
Is there a way to do this legally?
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think you could purchase it, then gift it to him. This assuming he can legally own a firearm where he resides, and you don't make it a regular thing by buying firearms for all your "friends" on a regular basis.
But a one shot deal I think is permissible. He can send you a check because the ATF doesn't govern money, or amounts paid. Just the guns it can buy.
A "straw purchase" is defined as knowingly purchasing a firearm for someone who you know cannot legally own one. That is not the case here.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think you could purchase it, then gift it to him. This assuming he can legally own a firearm where he resides, and you don't make it a regular thing by buying firearms for all your "friends" on a regular basis.
But a one shot deal I think is permissible. He can send you a check because the ATF doesn't govern money, or amounts paid. Just the guns it can buy.
A "straw purchase" is defined as knowingly purchasing a firearm for someone who you know cannot legally own one. That is not the case here.
Bingo. Maybe it's time to visit a friend, and avoid the FFL in his state.
Also, you could buy it and find a reasonable FFL in your state to do a transfer to his FFL. I think I only paid $15 for the transfer when I bought my firearm online.
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Just to be safe I would check and see if you can gift a firearm to a non-family member.
I like Frank's idea of buying it and finding an FFL who would transfer it.
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That way you know it's legal. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
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It's across state lines so has to goto a ffl for him. Even if they would let him buy it...
The real funny thing about this is he is a federal Marshall.
If he was closer I would say hop in your truck and I would meet up with him.... he is 2300 miles each way.
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I assume he's going to reimburse you for it, then it's technically not a gift.
Buy it. Find a reasonable FFL who will transfer it to his FFL. That simple, though costly.
Shipping is WAYYYYYY cheaper if a FedEx/UPS commercial customer does the shipping.
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I assume he's going to reimburse you for it, then it's technically not a gift.
Buy it. Find a reasonable FFL who will transfer it to his FFL. That simple, though costly.
Shipping is WAYYYYYY cheaper if a FedEx/UPS commercial customer does the shipping.
I like the way you think. ;D
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Whether you are going to gift it or sell it to your friend, the only way to avoid a straw purchase charge is to send it to his ffl for the transfer.
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He will pay me back
It is so stupid that we have laws that make it so you could become a felon over nothing.
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He will pay me back
It is so stupid that we have laws that make it so you could become a felon over nothing.
The laws are doing exactly what the haters want - Stopping us from obtaining guns.
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The laws are doing exactly what the haters want - Stopping us from obtaining guns.
This is the most deadly of assault weapons.... a single shot break action 22 target pistol. A stevens target 10.
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This is the most deadly of assault weapons.... a single shot break action 22 target pistol. A stevens target 10.
Egads, Man!!!
The sheer terror that thing evokes might create an unrecoverable ripple across the territory.
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This is the most deadly of assault weapons.... a single shot break action 22 target pistol.
Or one in .30-06.
(https://i.imgur.com/RRaoGpW.jpg?2)
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At a glance it looks a lot like a semi-auto with one of those new-fangled aftermarket slide rackers. Quite modern looking for something a century old.
I could've been a Contender! What else could T/C do for an encore, besides come out with the Encore?
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This is the most deadly of assault weapons.... a single shot break action 22 target pistol. A stevens target 10.
HORRORS: A concealable, quiet, sniper gun.
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HORRORS: A concealable, quite, sniper gun.
That was made before the nfa....