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Title: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 08:03:21 AM
I do some research to try and buy US made goods.  Someone suggested I share this info for anyone who's interested.  Please add any links you may find that are similar...

Jeans, shirts, coats, sweats.....etc..

http://www.allamericanclothing.com/SFNT.html

http://www.texasjeans.com/news.html

Socks...

http://www.wigwam.com/index.aspx
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
Sneakers...

http://www.shopnewbalance.com/information/madeinusa.asp

Workboots..

http://www.carolinashoe.com/category.asp?CatID=284

http://www.redwingshoes.com/footwear/filter-usa

http://www.chippewaboots.com/category/classics
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 08:50:51 AM
Grills

(most, not all are US)

http://www.weber.com/
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 08:53:53 AM
Knives

(some, not all)

http://www.kershawknives.com/searchresults.php?search_by=madeinusa&search_value=0&brand=kershaw

http://www.benchmade.com/about_knives/anewclass.asp

http://www.gerbergear.com/index.php
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
Cookware.....no, you can't get all of this at Wally World but it will last a lifetime or two..

http://www.regalware.com/

http://www.all-clad.com/about-all-clad/Our-Craftsmanship/

http://www.lodgemfg.com/

http://www.manpans.com/
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 23, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
Cutlery...

http://www.cutco.com/home.jsp
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: bafsu92 on April 24, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
Thanks for all the info, I just ordered some shirts from All American Clothing.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: blackwolfe on April 24, 2011, 10:32:09 PM
American made pans, mostly.  Some of the novilty Nordic cookware may not be USA, not sure as I have not studied all their products lately.

I think both these companies arre avaiable online and Amazon.  They are very well made.  I have an aversion to buying cookwar made in espescially china, as how do you know what the coating or metal are really made of.

http://www.nordicware.com/

http://www.usapans.com/



Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 25, 2011, 08:04:26 PM
Military Jackets, coats, t-shirts, etc....

http://www.uswings.com/index.asp
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on April 30, 2011, 09:46:42 AM
Automobiles...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/06/ten-most-american-cars/
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: gunman42782 on April 30, 2011, 12:19:42 PM
Guns:

Ruger
Colt
Smith and Wesson (except some of their long guns are made in Turkey!)
Kahr
Kel-Tec
Remington (not sure if they are still importing the Russian shotguns or not)
H and R
Savage  (some of their .22s are made in Canada actually)
Marlin
Doublestar
Most all the ARs are made here.
Sure I missed several, these where just off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: bafsu92 on May 02, 2011, 04:39:09 PM
Guns:

Ruger
Colt
Smith and Wesson (except some of their long guns are made in Turkey!)
Kahr
Kel-Tec
Remington (not sure if they are still importing the Russian shotguns or not)
H and R
Savage  (some of their .22s are made in Canada actually)
Marlin
Doublestar
Most all the ARs are made here.
Sure I missed several, these where just off the top of my head.

Don't forget Kimber, Diamondback, Henry (who's president vows to be 100% American as long as he's alive) and STI, the best 1911 for the money on the market.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on May 02, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Automobiles...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/06/ten-most-american-cars/

Just to show that I do walk the walk...

I just bought my third Focus based on the following...Assembled in my home state of Michigan of 90% domestic parts.

I have nearly 150,000 miles on the last two I've owned and it would have been more but, New England eats cars due to our severe winters.  My last, I owned for 8 years and it was in pretty good shape when I traded it on Friday.

I can afford more but I have no need to spend money frivolously!  It's transportation, nothing more...
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: philw on May 02, 2011, 08:30:27 PM
we have a program here that has been around for years

http://www.australianmade.com.au

http://www.buyaustralianmade.com.au/

(http://www.asema.com.au/Australian%20made%20logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on May 02, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks for that reminder Phil.

I know everyone cannot afford to buy exclusively USA made products but I personally believe that we CANNOT afford not to...Now that I can afford to, I will when I can!
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: philw on May 02, 2011, 08:49:55 PM
Thanks for that reminder Phil.

I know everyone cannot afford to buy exclusively USA made products but I personally believe that we CANNOT afford not to...Now that I can afford to, I will when I can!

I agree mate, 
here I try to buy local,  especially here in SA where I can,  yes it is more $$ however I know it keeps jobs here,  that is why I do it.


however with the way the AUD to USD is,  I am saving up to get a few things from the US.  as there is such a big difference in pricing, I can take a few $$ difference,  however if I can save a couple of hundred then I am buying OS.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on May 07, 2011, 07:29:45 AM
I do some research to try and buy US made goods.  Someone suggested I share this info for anyone who's interested.  Please add any links you may find that are similar...

Jeans, shirts, coats, sweats.....etc..

http://www.allamericanclothing.com/SFNT.htm

Range report...

I received the order I made last week and found the jeans to be extremely well made, comfortable and well worth the money.  They're heavy denim with a crotch gusset that gives the sack a bit more room and both pair fit the same which is never the case on Chinese made crap.    Definitely will continue to buy them, big thumbs up!

I also bought several t-shirts.  They are heavy cotton, also extremely well made and they have a "tall" line that gives you more tail length to tuck if you chose to.  Colors are limited in the tall sizes but that doesn't bother me.  I will be looking at some of the oxford shirts for a future purchase.

Very pleased with the purchase and they will get more of my patronage in the near future.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: BAC on May 07, 2011, 07:43:06 AM
I was working at the NRA store at the convention last week and a couple came to my register to buy some hats and shirts.  When I rang one up the man told me they had to buy that one because it was made in the USA.  They said a lot of what was being sold was made in China and they were not happy about it...but they still bought the stuff.

I tell my daughter that if she chooses to do something she shouldn't complain about it.  Either complain and don't do it, or do it and shut up.  The choice is yours.  Once you've decided to engage in a questionable action, you lose the ability to complain without being a hypocrite, IMO.

Sorry for being so eloquent, I got up too early.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on May 07, 2011, 09:13:44 AM
Speaking of the NRA...

http://www.nrastore.com/nra/Products.aspx?cat=Made%20In%20USA

Unfortunately, this a SMALL amount of USA made goods compared to what the NRA sells.....kind of disappointing really!
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 31, 2011, 09:37:54 AM
Fishing Equipment

http://www.ardentreels.com/index.asp

http://www.stcroixrods.com/  
(most, not all and I buy St. Croix exclusively and have for twenty years.  I've never broken a St. Croix rod...I own five!)

http://americanmadeoutdoors.com/
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on July 12, 2012, 02:14:30 PM
I light of the Olympic uniform debacle!  

Bumped...  http://www.buyamericanmart.com/index.html
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: lhprop1 on July 12, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Fishing Equipment

http://www.stcroixrods.com/  
(most, not all and I buy St. Croix exclusively and have for twenty years.  I've never broken a St. Croix rod...I own five!)


The Mojo and Triumph series are the ones made in Mexico.  They're still great rods.  I've got a few myself.

Personally, I prefer http://www.thornebros.com  They're made 100% right here in Minnesota and are considered the best muskie rods and best ice fishing rods money can buy.  Of course they have rods for garbage fish like bass, but no one really fishes for them that I know of.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on July 12, 2012, 02:47:14 PM
The Mojo and Triumph series are the ones made in Mexico.  They're still great rods.  I've got a few myself.

Personally, I prefer http://www.thornebros.com  They're made 100% right here in Minnesota and are considered the best muskie rods and best ice fishing rods money can buy.  Of course they have rods for garbage fish like bass, but no one really fishes for them that I know of.

No muskie left in the east!  Damn little pike or walleye either!

I bought a Triumph series light spinning rod last year that I pretty much leave in the car 9 months a year.  My others are all one piece bait casters, a couple Avid and a couple Premier series.  My salty inshore rod is a one piece Premier spinning, 7' MH which could double as a pike/salmon rod when I'm back in Michigan.

We have some rod builders here as well!  Salt water fly fishing is really big here too...
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2014, 09:05:21 AM
You remember Cliff Claven, the postman from the popular television series, Cheers? He’d philosophize and pontificate and come up with the most interesting factoids. Well, Cliff Claven was played by talented comedian and actor John Ratzenberger. I recently had the opportunity to interview him about buying American made products. And with only a few shopping days left until Christmas, that’s exactly was Ratzenberger wants us to do.

Ratzenberger is touring the country promoting the concept of buying American. In fact, he and entrepreneur Mark Andol have created a website, madeinamericastore.com, which educates the public on the advantages and necessity of buying American and also sells American made products. Currently on special for the holidays are gift boxes of made-in-America products designed for children, men, and women, respectively.

He gives an example as to why, if we want to experience economic growth, it is important to buy American. “If you buy a T-shirt made in China for $4-5 cheaper than you can get here, you will eventually put the American T-shirt company out of business.” This company will then no longer pay for a business license (tax), collect and pay sales taxes, or pay income taxes to the state and to Uncle Sam. Lower tax revenues eventually lead to economic decline. It also leads to the missing tax dollars being made up by the rest of the population.

“It’s a domino effect,” Ratzenberger says. “I know a lot of truckers in Los Angeles. They used to take a truck load of merchandise back east and return with a full load of merchandise to be shipped out from L.A. to points around the world. You know what they’re telling me now? They’re coming back empty.” This is a reduction in the trucker’s pay. Therefore a reduction in the amount of taxes he pays. Everyone is affected. If there are fewer truckers on the road, there’s less need for truck stops and fuel and junk food too.

Ratzenberger grew up in Bridgeport, Ct., a manufacturing town. He started out as a journeyman carpenter. In fact, he helped build the stage at Woodstock. “All my heroes were people who could make things. Manufacturing is our strength. It’s the people who get up in the morning and put their hands to something that make America strong. But they are eliminating shop courses in schools and people are losing skills.” Ratzenberger feels that this must change or our country will suffer.

Ratzenberger claims the tools made by American manufacturers, such as the Estwing hammer, will last far longer than its Chinese counterpart. He says, “I can spot a Chinese hammer from yards away just by the way the metal glints off the sun. Those hammers chip and break in no time at all. Whereas an Estwing hammer can be handed down from one generation to the next.”

You get what you pay for.

Products made in China are of poorer quality. Not only that, but Ratzenberger adds, “There are no laws in China covering environmental issues. They do whatever they want. One third of all our air and water pollution comes from China. They have no EPA. In America we have found ways to protect the environment but these methods cost money. As a result, we must charge higher prices. But investment in American-made products will pay off in a cleaner, safer environment and a stronger economy.”

When going into a big box store this holiday season and thereafter, Ratzenberger encourages Americans to ask where the “made in America” section is. “And if they don’t have one,” he adds, “walk out!”


http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/12/19/buy-american-watch-your-taxes-go-down/?intcmp=ob_homepage_business&intcmp=obnetwork
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: alfsauve on December 20, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
There are a lot of good reasons to buy American made.   And a lot of good reasons not buy Chinese (mainland Chine) products.   However, the Broken Window theory in the third paragraph is flawed.

Any money saved buying a less expensive product is then available to be spent buying other products and services.    If I could find an American made toaster (presumably more expensive) then I would have less money to buy bacon (American grown and processed) to go with my toast.  Then the American farmer loses out to save the American toaster makers.   (That is assuming you can find an American made toaster.  Our 50 yo Mary Proctor toaster died last year and none that I could find were made in the US.)

Let's take his T-shirt example.   I go buy 7 t-shirts and spend $35 more buying American made than foreign made, then it's $35 less to spend on other things.  So I'll stay home and have toast and peanut butter instead of going out to eat.  The local restaurant and their workers have less business and less income, and possibly go out of business.    The money thing balances out one way or another.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for buying American made and supporting local farmers/ranchers/industries, especially the micro-brewers ;), but the macro-economics of it isn't the reason why.   


Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2014, 11:18:53 AM
All well and good but as more consumers demand and buy American made products the prices will normalize!
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 20, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
I do not know that you CAN buy an American made T shirt or footwear other than running shoes (I know Nike is still in the US ) You will not find a US made incandescent light bulb at any price.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: TAB on December 20, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
new balance makes some of their shoes here.

I bought 10 cases of GE 100 watt bulbs several years ago, when I was in CA and they out lawed the import of 100 watt bulbs ( no bs)  I will be good for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Big Frank on December 20, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
If anyone knows where to find blue jeans in big and tall mans sizes let me know. Actually it's too late now. The fat man shop has made in Bangladesh jeans and I bought some. I don't believe American jeans would cost any more if I could find them.

The only shoes made in the USA that I know of are some that New Balance makes and some Red Wing boots. AFAIK Nikes are all made places like China and Vietnam. They violate minimum wage laws and use child labor.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: TAB on December 20, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
not all redwings are made in the US any more   :'(


as for jeans,

grandriver, dickes 1922 collection( and only these  :'(  )   carhartt also has a line made in the usa.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Solus on December 20, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
There are a lot of good reasons to buy American made.   And a lot of good reasons not buy Chinese (mainland Chine) products.   However, the Broken Window theory in the third paragraph is flawed.

Any money saved buying a less expensive product is then available to be spent buying other products and services.    If I could find an American made toaster (presumably more expensive) then I would have less money to buy bacon (American grown and processed) to go with my toast.  Then the American farmer loses out to save the American toaster makers.   (That is assuming you can find an American made toaster.  Our 50 yo Mary Proctor toaster died last year and none that I could find were made in the US.)

Let's take his T-shirt example.   I go buy 7 t-shirts and spend $35 more buying American made than foreign made, then it's $35 less to spend on other things.  So I'll stay home and have toast and peanut butter instead of going out to eat.  The local restaurant and their workers have less business and less income, and possibly go out of business.    The money thing balances out one way or another.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for buying American made and supporting local farmers/ranchers/industries, especially the micro-brewers ;), but the macro-economics of it isn't the reason why.   

Look at it this way.

If the American made t-shirt costs $20  and the foreign made costs $15 and you buy the American made one, that puts $20 back into our economy to pay t-shirt makers...who will then buy toasters which pays toaster makers who go out to eat...so over and over that purchase stimulates the economy.  I know it diminishes with each level as Uncle Sam takes his cut and folks stash some away under the mattress but that is still 4 times the impact on the US economy than that from a foreign purchase and spending the $5 saved here.

I guess the foreign t-shirt sellers living here get a bit of the $15..so it isn't quite 100% of the $15 we lose.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
Texas Jean Company, Wrangler, American Clothing, some Carhartt, Woolrich, Filson, etc...

Go back to the beginning of this thread and I listed numerous sites where you can buy US made clothing, shoes, socks, jackets, etc..  Go to the company web site and search on US made and most will have a small portion of their clothes still made in the US.

Levis is a sad disappointment...and their quality of late just sucks!

T-Shirts are not hard to find made in the US.  Just have to do your homework.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
I do not know that you CAN buy an American made T shirt or footwear other than running shoes (I know Nike is still in the US ) You will not find a US made incandescent light bulb at any price.

http://www.allamericanclothing.com/made-in-usa/shirts.html
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 20, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
Justin boots..... my boot of choice for 25 years......can't wear the pull-on's like I prefer, but the lacers are good too.




Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2014, 05:43:56 PM
Sumpin's wrong wif yer leg, Peg!
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: alfsauve on December 20, 2014, 05:46:40 PM

Levis is a sad disappointment...and their quality of late just sucks!


Levis ( and Dockers) are pro gun control, so many sources say.

Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: alfsauve on December 20, 2014, 05:49:09 PM

If the American made t-shirt costs $20  and the foreign made costs $15 and you buy the American made one, that puts $20 back into our economy to pay t-shirt makers...who will then buy toasters which pays toaster makers who go out to eat...

Yes the point is the money goes round either way.    Problem with your example, is I only have a t-shirt.  If I buy the cheaper one, then I can have the t-shirt plus a coffee to spill on it.   Which then means I'll need to buy laundry detergent to wash it.  ;)



Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: alfsauve on December 20, 2014, 05:49:35 PM
Sumpin's wrong wif yer leg, Peg!

Yes, we all know that.  It's what's wrong with his head that worries us.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: ellis4538 on December 20, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Alf, your detergent statement doesn't wash (pun intended) because to buy detergent to wash it anyway cause u get it dirty wearing it.  Now u could go out and buy bib overalls instead of jeans and your coffee spill would be on the bibs and not the t-shirt.....just sayin'!
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Solus on December 21, 2014, 12:37:52 PM
Alf, your detergent statement doesn't wash (pun intended) because to buy detergent to wash it anyway cause u get it dirty wearing it.  Now u could go out and buy bib overalls instead of jeans and your coffee spill would be on the bibs and not the t-shirt.....just sayin'!

If you have bib overalls, what do you need any shirt for?
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: ellis4538 on December 21, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
Solus, have u ever had hot brass caught in your shooting glasses?  If so, that is my reason for the shirt, if not try bibs w/out a shirt and then check back!

Richard
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 21, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
I'm sure I've said this before, but I like saying it:

You get what you pay for!

I quit looking at price first.  When I buy clothing I look for what fits, is it quality, then how it is priced.  Quality clothing from good outlets will more than make up for the double or triple prices.  I can purchase American made clothing that actually fits my athletic figure  ;) and that will last in my lifestyle. 

I just double checked labels on some shirts that I purchased ten years ago.  These are shirts I wear for hunting and outdoor work in the fall, winter and early spring.  Except for the white paint on one sleeve and the small tear in another where I hooked a nail, all three of these shirts could be worn to any clean casual event.  And YES, they were made in the United States!

One item missed by many people, especially those blasting the evil 1% is that American made is what helps our friends, family and neighbors prosper.  You don't climb the economic ladder by wearing a blue smock peddling third world products at Walmart.  Where do the protesters spend their money, and where do their purchases come from?
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: billt on December 22, 2014, 05:14:46 AM
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens-home.aspx?src=M001099&admkt=&mkwid=fWGD3jJf_dc&pcrid=6101447791&pkw=duluth%20trading&pmt=p

Not sure if they're 100% American. I can't find anywhere that it say's they're not. Usually, that is something clothing companies brag about, if it's in fact true.
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 22, 2014, 07:34:14 AM
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens-home.aspx?src=M001099&admkt=&mkwid=fWGD3jJf_dc&pcrid=6101447791&pkw=duluth%20trading&pmt=p

Not sure if they're 100% American. I can't find anywhere that it say's they're not. Usually, that is something clothing companies brag about, if it's in fact true.

Not everything but better than some!

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/workwear/usa-made/american-made.aspx
Title: Re: Buy American!
Post by: Timothy on December 22, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
Really nice stuff for the folks that can afford it...  I have a wallet and a belt from these folks.  I'd buy more but I'd need a raise or a lottery win.

Exceptional quality in the items I've bought!

http://www.filson.com/