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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Marshal Halloway on January 03, 2011, 12:34:40 PM
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(http://www.downrange.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/LC9.jpg)
Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE: RGR), announces the LC9™, a lightweight, compact 9mm pistol for discreet carry by law abiding citizens, or a full-power, no-compromise backup for off-duty law enforcement officers. This highly requested pistol was developed through Ruger’s Voice of the Customer program and incorporates the features and rugged reliability desired by Ruger customers. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/ruger-introduces-lc9-lightweight-compact-9mm-pistol/7966/
We will have more updates late tonight and throughout the week.
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Now THAT looks like a great idea considering todays gun market.
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I've looked at the LCP and found it a bit too small for my meathooks. I've also been checking out the SR9C more and more lately but can't commit...now this comes along! If Ruger pulled it off well it might become the next toy on the list.
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That is EXACTLY what I want
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About a month ago when MB hinted about the new Ruger I was the first to say it was gonna be a 9mm LCP. Does that mean I win one? ;D
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This gets my attention! I've been waiting for this for a while...
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Hey, somebody stamped Ruger on my PF-9... ;D
Gotta say that I'm a bit skeptical right now. Ruger has really disappointed me with all the recalls of late on their new pistols. In fact, my SR9c has the "light primer strike" problem that has officially bumped it out of contention as a carry piece -- a quick Google search shows that this is a very common issue.
Robb Allen has a pretty funny blog post at "Sharp as a Marble" that snarks that Ruger has made the unprecendented move of recalling the LC9 prior to releasing it for sale...just to get a jump on things.
Until this pistol is proven, I wouldn't trust my life to it.
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I am sure it well sell like hotcakes. But, I really miss the days when guns where steel and wood. Tupperware just does not turn me on! After all the hoopla about this gun, I feel let down. I was hoping for either a 1911, a SR-45, or what I really wanted, and probably the biggest long shot, XGI rifles that actually hit dealers shelves. For those too young to remember, the XGI was a Mini 14 type gun in .308. Ruger scraped that project because it would not come "up to Rugers accuracy standards." The way the Mini 14 shoots, I would hate to see how bad that gun shot if it did not come up to Rugers accuracy standards!
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That is EXACTLY what I want
You and me both! Ever since the LCP came out in .380 (I won't carry a .380), I've hoped Ruger would take the next step.
So, you come out with the first full-length review? ;D
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It looks like this year is the "Year of the Pocket 9mm" now with Ruger and Sig (along with the current Keltec PF-9 and Kahr PM9) announcing small 9mm handguns. I may have to sell my LCP and get an LC9.
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I had been planning on getting a compact 9mm this year. The Taurus 709, Ruger SR9c, Glock 26, and XD9 compact had all been on the list. When the Sig 290 came on the scene, I decided to add it to the list. With the introduction of the LC9, I think I'll hold off until the fall to buy, just in case someone else comes out with another Mighty Mouse.
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It looks like this year is the "Year of the Pocket 9mm" now with Ruger and Sig (along with the current Keltec PF-9 and Kahr PM9) announcing small 9mm handguns. I may have to sell my LCP and get an LC9.
If its close to the LCP size and price wise, I'll bet you'll be seeing a lot of used LCPs. And .380 might get cheaper. ;)
FQ13
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If its close to the LCP size and price wise, I'll bet you'll be seeing a lot of used LCPs. And .380 might get cheaper. ;)
FQ13
Its not. Here is an overlay of the two:
http://gunmart.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
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Its not. Here is an overlay of the two:
http://gunmart.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
Thanks for the link. All I can see that it has going for it is its cheaper than the G-26. Size wise, its not that different (though slimmer). For an extra hundred, I'd still lean Glock due to mag options and track record. Its too bad as an LCP sized 9 would be nice. Still, I bet they sell an awful lot of these.
FQ13
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I've got my initial impressions of the LC9 up on the blog:
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
I stand by my prediction that this is going to be the hot category for 2011!
Michael B
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I SO want one of these ;D
For those who complain about the "manual safety" - You don't have to carry with it ON! I CCW'd the S&W 3913 for many years (with the hammer down) and never had the safety on. Point and click ;)
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I've got my initial impressions of the LC9 up on the blog:
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
I stand by my prediction that this is going to be the hot category for 2011!
Michael B
Mr Mike!
How long is the waiting list or line to apply for YOUR job?
;D ;D
You're a luck fella Mikey.....fer true!
;)
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I stand by my prediction that this is going to be the hot category for 2011!
Michael B
no doubt with that
any chance of getting one with a 4.73" barrel ;)
yea I know I thing I need to move to the US
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Michael's video report is posted:
(http://www.downrange.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/rugerlc9.jpg) (http://www.downrange.tv/blog/first-look-at-the-ruger-lc9-video/7990/)
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/first-look-at-the-ruger-lc9-video/7990/
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I just want the LC9's sights,or something similar, on the LCP and I would be quite happy.
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Not to pee on new gun excitement, but if I lay my LCP on top my G30 (a 10+1 round .45ACP), and compare that picture to the new LC9 picture (a 7+1 round 9mm)...
Note: my LCP is wearing the grip extension included as an option with the gun from Ruger, and I've added grip extensions to my G30 mag.'s making it a little bigger a gun than it is out of the box from Glock (but FAR easier to handle!).
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/BigCheeseStick/LC9.jpg)
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/BigCheeseStick/P1020001.jpg)
I say the win goes to Glock over the LC9. :-\
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But it is almost a half inch THINNER than the Glock, that is the big sell for me.
But Kahr is proven (and comes in .40).
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Noticed the slide lock on the 9 holds it open after the last round. Not a major deal, but nice. The better sights are good too, but don't matter so much in the role the LCP fills for me
At over one pound in weight, the LC9 would fail, for me, the criteria I find most valuable in the LCP...low weight. It's size is also somewhat larger than the LCP.
I have found that I ALWAYS have the LCP with me whenever I am wearing something with a pocket. Easy to carry in a pajama pants pocket and most shirt pockets.
When I am out and about I carry a Glock 23 or Glock 21 IWB along with the LCP in a jacket or pants pocket. When I am home, it is the LCP that is always in my pocket.
I am always able to dress to be able to carry at least the Glock 23 so the LCP doesn't need to meet the demands of a primary carry weapon. (I suspect that should a SD situation arise, the LCP would be the most likely weapon with which I would respond. My hand is usually on it and unless the encounter allowed the time to move to the G23, the LCP would be the one)
So, for me, the LC9 doesn't do the job of either the Glock 23 (larger caliber and greater capacity) or the LCP.
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OK! I must shoot one of these soon and see how it matches up to the LCP and the SR9c. It might be the pocket gun I have been looking for. I hate the LCP and love the SR9c. Did any one catch what is missing? I don't see a rail. (crimson trace ?)
I don't care how good the sights are, for what this gun will be used for it needs laser sights on it.
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I would imagine they'll offer an optional trigger guard laser on it like they did with the LCP. ::)
P.S.- I'm reserving my opinion until I can ACTUALLY get my hands on one at the range! ;)
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Noticed the slide lock on the 9 holds it open after the last round. Not a major deal, but nice. The better sights are good too, but don't matter so much in the role the LCP fills for me
At over one pound in weight, the LC9 would fail, for me, the criteria I find most valuable in the LCP...low weight. It's size is also somewhat larger than the LCP.
I have found that I ALWAYS have the LCP with me whenever I am wearing something with a pocket. Easy to carry in a pajama pants pocket and most shirt pockets.
When I am out and about I carry a Glock 23 or Glock 21 IWB along with the LCP in a jacket or pants pocket. When I am home, it is the LCP that is always in my pocket.
I am always able to dress to be able to carry at least the Glock 23 so the LCP doesn't need to meet the demands of a primary carry weapon. (I suspect that should a SD situation arise, the LCP would be the most likely weapon with which I would respond. My hand is usually on it and unless the encounter allowed the time to move to the G23, the LCP would be the one)
So, for me, the LC9 doesn't do the job of either the Glock 23 (larger caliber and greater capacity) or the LCP.
Excellent point on the last round slide stop! Wish the LCP had one! Only thing I dislike about the gun.
But like you also mention. The weight of an LCP is a HUGE advantage! Easy to forget that your even carrying it until it's needed.
For me the LCP is my first choice for warm weather. It's size and weight make it the perfect companion for light clothing. When heavy layers of winter clothing are common I carry the G30 for added penetration and because the extra cloths make it easier to hide.
If I thought I'd ever need to "defend myself" against a guy on the other side of a car windshield... I'd probably look harder at 9mm's. ::) JMO ;)
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OK! I must shoot one of these soon and see how it matches up to the LCP and the SR9c. It might be the pocket gun I have been looking for. I hate the LCP and love the SR9c. Did any one catch what is missing? I don't see a rail. (crimson trace ?)
I don't care how good the sights are, for what this gun will be used for it needs laser sights on it.
http://www.shootingwire.com/story/229291
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That was fast. ;D I did not catch that the crimson trace doesn't use a rail for mounting. ::)
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Mr Mike!
How long is the waiting list or line to apply for YOUR job?
;D ;D
You're a luck fella Mikey.....fer true!
;)
Those with the same initials go to the front of the line ;D
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Marshall,I watched that video on the LC9 and,I am thinking about getting one in a year or so just to be sure that the bugs and creepy crawlers like Michael Bane doesnt fool with it to much. Ouch,did I say that?????? Oops,didnt want to tell the truth but,,,,, no,just kidding about Michael. How is the slide to rack,easy or hard for the first time? I have arthur in my hands so,that is why i ask. rich642z
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I've got my initial impressions of the LC9 up on the blog:
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
I stand by my prediction that this is going to be the hot category for 2011!
Michael B
Turn the phone on its side when recording video. It gives a much better picture.
Also, I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of these. Hope that mine will be here in february.
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How well does this pocket carry?
The whole appeal of the 380 pocket pistols for me is pocket carry. If I cannot pocket carry the LC9 I'm not sure if there is much to make me choose the LC9 over a mid size or compact Glock.
I like the sights and last round hold open, but there are poscket 380s with those features already.
Until I can get my hands on one to try I would be interested to hear about how well these disapear in a pocket from people who already have the LC9.
rube
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How well does this pocket carry?
The whole appeal of the 380 pocket pistols for me is pocket carry. If I cannot pocket carry the LC9 I'm not sure if there is much to make me choose the LC9 over a mid size or compact Glock.
I like the sights and last round hold open, but there are poscket 380s with those features already.
Until I can get my hands on one to try I would be interested to hear about how well these disapear in a pocket from people who already have the LC9.
rube
Obviously some of that will depend on your size, and the size of your pockets, Big guy in loose cargo pants it's probably invisible, little guy in tight jeans , not so much ;D
Judging by the pictures it's a bit larger and heavier than the LCP, but the extra oomph of a full size 9mm may make that an acceptable trade.
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The LC9 is a little big for pocket carry in jeans...not to say it doesn't work for pocket carry (I've carried it a couple days in right-front jeans pocket, and it does work...I think I might change my mind if I got a good pocket holster. I've ordered a DeSantis Nemesis, so I'll let you know on that. Should be much less of an issue with cargo pants. I may make up one of my own pocket holsters with a smooth side leather facing out...if I can prototype what I have in mind, I'll send it to Ted Blocker and see if we can get it to market...I'll keep you in the loop...
So, too early to say if the LC9 replaces the LCP for all the time everywhere carry.
As I mentioned on the blog, the LC9 fits the Mitch Rosen Express pancake for the SR9c with the laser. Those express holsters are tight tight fits as it is. I thik I like the LC9 better for a forward of centerline — crossdraw, or "driving" holster, or for appendix carry — better than the SR9c because it's a little thinner and smaller in all dimensions...more of an issue with forward carry than a traditional position. Plus, and I hate to harp on this, but I would use the manual safety in a forward carry, even with the long DAO trigger pull..Mr. Weasel will thank me.
PS: Even I'm not sure how I got my job...annoying perseverance, I suspect...
Michael B
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I was really excited about this pistol at first since I love my LCP. Then I saw the overlay, they needed to keep it much closer to the LCP size in my opinion. The LC9 will not be replacing my Walther PPS since it's just marginally smaller.
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I, for one, am really looking forward to this gun! I currently am carrying a Sig p238 for pocket carry: it's beautiful, small and light (with great night sights!) but it's a little finicky. I accept the limitations of a gun small enough for pocket carry (.380) but I've got to admit, I'd feel better with a little more power, like 9mm. Everyone has their own preferences, and I'm not a wheel-gun fan. I understand the snubby revolver fans' logic but they're just not for me. I love my Springfields but my subcompact .40XD is a little thick for summer/casual carry. I have small hands but the LCP still felt too small for me and the "sights" suck. My p238 fits easily into pocket and I actually feel something a little bigger wouldn't be a problem. Again, preferences differ and I just don't like the feel of Kahrs in my hands-- I shoot my p238 much better than any Kahrs. I'm really looking forward to trying this gun. And after buying plenty of .40 and .380 ammo, saving some cash on 9mm would be nice...
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Ok I'll say it. Michael, do us a favor and tell them to make one in .45. ;D
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Ok I'll say it. Michael, do us a favor and tell them to make one in .45. ;D
It's called the Taurus 745 and it's a 'Handfull' to shoot ::)