Most of the components aren't even Ruger products, Troy, Hogue, Mag pul, at least it's a piston system.
Now if they offered it in .308......
Is it just me, or would any one else be more excited if they would have just offered a mini-14 that would taker AR mags (like they should have done the first time)? $2000 dollars for a stock AR? ::) I wish I had some of what they were smoking up in Hartford.
FQ13
PS I reserve the right to mock if you pony up the 2 large to buy this thing unless the reviews not only glow, but set the page they're written on fire.
Ammunition Velocity Group Size
Winchester USA 62 FMJ 2879 1.375
Winchester USA 55 FMJ 2858 1.75
Extreme Shock 62 FHVL 2712 1.75
Extreme Shock 55 SRT 2453 1.18
Extreme Shock 100 ASP 1071 Not Tested
Black Hills 55 SP 2901 0.75
Wolf Gold Match 75 BTHP 2495 0.875
Mag Tech 55 FMJ 2909 1.18
Buffalo Bore 69 Sierra 2839 0.675
Why a polymer 1911? I don't know if I would buy one. However, A new 1911 would be more exciting than a $2000 gun that has already been made by Sig for cheaper.
Most of the components aren't even Ruger products, Troy, Hogue, Mag pul, at least it's a piston system.
Now if they offered it in .308......
I bet they are made by Stag.
Question?
Where is all the promised DRTV content on this ??? Its been 2 hours and no blog posts, no video, no twitter updates. Nothing.(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif)
Question?
Where is all the promised DRTV content on this ??? Its been 2 hours and no blog posts, no video, no twitter updates. Nothing.(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif)
The gas system on the SR-556 is adjustable. There are four positions on the gas adjustment knob, numbered from 0 to 3. The 0 position shuts off the gas that is bled from the barrel to operate the action. In this position, the rifle acts like a straight-pull bolt action, and the action must be manually cycled. This is a good idea for training a new shooter on the AR design, as the rifle will not self-load after each shot. Also, if for whatever reason you do not want to leave a piece of brass on the ground, you can set the knob to 0 and the case will not be ejected. The standard position for most ammunition with be the number 2 position. The numbers 1 and 3 positions have gas ports that are slightly smaller and slightly larger than the number 2 position, respectively. The number 1 position is useful if the ammo is on the warm side, bleeding off a bit less gas, and cycling more gently than the standard number 2 setting. If the weapon has become dirty from shooting, or from blowing silt and sand, or if a batch of weak ammo is encountered, the number 3 position will bleed off a bit more gas to operate the action with more authority.
You know, I understand that Ruger has never been an innovater. They made their bones by taking other people's designs and making them sturdier, more realible and cheaper (colt with their SA revolvers, and the MI with the mini and 10-22). This is ok as I have owned, shot and loved their products. But this is too much. I can buy a new Bushmaster for a grand give or take. Does anyone think that with another $1000, I can't send it to a custom shop and get a better rifle than the Ruger? :'(
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(http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/43822/2049848830103476461S600x600Q85.jpg)Please tell me this is a joke, because otherwise I won't know whether to laugh or cry. I love Ruger products, but seriously, this whole thing makes me ::).
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Do you think the people at Ruger are reading this and saying "they're supposed to love it. Why don't they love it?"
Redefined? Only if it stays recall free.
Ho hum.
Would have been nice with a folding stock. MSRP puts it out of the park, unless I sell off more of my collection. I don't know if I could get by with less than 60 firearms in the safes.
I expect this will probably end up selling in the $1500-$1600 range after the intial rush, as some people will buy them whatever the cost. I was told once years ago from a knowledgeable source that generaly the cost to wholesalelers for Ruger's products was 37% less than MSRP. That formula would put it about $1257 to wholesalers. I don't know if this is in line with other piston AR types or not as I haven't looked at them.
I would think that we will also see this in some other configureations. I noticed that it uses Ruger's AC556 flash hider. Unless Ruger changed it, the thread patern on the AC556 is not the standard AR thread pattern. If Ruger kept the the AC556 threads, I think that would be a detrement to sales as the choices of other flash hiders and compensators would be limited.
Would be nice if you could get it as an upper only.
In addition to this I wish Ruger had made a standard AR with the Ruger name on it in the normal AR price range as I think that would sell. It wouldn't be an existing platform redefined, but as I said, I think it would sell with the Ruger name on it if it was quality built.
What I think would sell even better is a .308 battle rifle. Make it available in different configurations including blue steel and wood, with cheap common mags, and afordable. That I think would sell extreamly well.Ruger are you listening?
OK, five pages from gun nuts who are so easy its lucky we weren't born girls. At least one of whom has plenty of cash to buy the thing (yes Bill I'm talking about you ;)), and zero positive comments. Not one, zero, zip, nada. They better hope they get a military, LEO or Mexican drug cartel contract or this thing will have the life expectancy of a startrek redshirt. Just sad.
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ruger does not have the cred to build anything that costs 2k.
hell thier latest guns have all had recalls, and these were lower priced guns. no one is going to spend what ammounts to the upper end of the market price for a "new and unproven design" From a company that has had a very bad track record of the last few years. Not to mention that ruger has never been known for thier fit and finish or their machine work.
ruger does not have the cred to build anything that costs 2k.
hell thier latest guns have all had recalls, and these were lower priced guns. no one is going to spend what ammounts to the upper end of the market price for a "new and unproven design" From a company that has had a very bad track record of the last few years. Not to mention that ruger has never been known for thier fit and finish or their machine work.
I'm just afraid that the trigger pull will be about 20 pounds like my GP100 felt. I loved the GP100 but I could not keep it on target with a double action pull. Put a lot of holes in the upper right quadrent until I took it to a good smith who lightened and smooth the trigger.
For me to spend 2k on a rifle it had better darn well be national match quality and give me 1 moa at the least.
I was standing at Ruger's booth when Michael Bane showed up to film. Captured the event on my FlipCam....and here it is for your readers.
..............What I think would sell even better is a .308 battle rifle. ...........Ruger are you listening?
Yeah. .308.If you're charging me 2K for a rifle, it damn well better not need upgrades.
Also...an SR9 that didn't have a 10lb trigger...or a trigger upgrade you could buy to get to the 4-7 lb range.
The one thing I noticed here that most have overlooked is the ammunition question. Assuming that I would want to spend $2K for this rifle, where will I get the ammo to shoot it? As of this date, ammo is still scarce and a purchase of this rifle would be nothing more than buying a $2K club.
And this next comment touches Para too:
The AR market is extremely crowded right now. I do not see the rationale to get into this market with nothing more than a "me too" product.
The AR market reminds me of the SUV market in the early to middle part of this decade. In business school I learned that one of the signs that a market is saturated is when manufacturers that normally produce luxury goods of type X, start producing luxury goods of type Y, though type Y is produced by everyone and their kid brother. And we know what happened to the SUV market when gas prices started rising past $2.75 per gallon.....
We are seeing the peak of the AR market and that means consolidation and lower prices may not be too far off in the future.....
Ruger could have wowed me with the best AK 47 ever produced, but that title is owned by Valmet of Finland......
And this next comment touches Para too:
The AR market is extremely crowded right now. I do not see the rationale to get into this market with nothing more than a "me too" product.
But it comes with 3 mags.
Now it doesn't seem overpriced at all. ::)
Now thats funny right there!Screw the three mags, does it come with three cases of ammo, that might offset the price a bit. :P
I liked it.........Okay, you've done your job. Now, would you rather see this, or a mini 14 with an AR mag? Just askin'. ;D
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/?p=174
;D ;D
I liked it.........
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/?p=174
;D ;D
Even though it was 109 degrees +50
For 2K, it had better come with a M-203 or shotgun underneath, lol. ;D Just kidding. Like the gas piston idea. $2,000 I would spend for a 6.8 SPC or .308 AR for the zombies.
Bushmaster 6.8, 16in barrel, A3 handle $980.00Does this include all 12boxes of 6.8 ammo available? It seems like a really nice round, but I sure wouldn't buy it unless I reloaded. As you have said many times Haz, let someone else do the beta testing (in this case to see if it becomes popular enough to be widely available).
Does this include all 12boxes of 6.8 ammo available? It seems like a really nice round, but I sure wouldn't buy it unless I reloaded. As you have said many times Haz, let someone else do the beta testing (in this case to see if it becomes popular enough to be widely available).
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I wish for every manufacturer to make ARs. More AR's could eventually mean prices go down, mare competition means better AR's and if we put a few in everyone's homes, they'll be harder for the government to ever take. I hope Ruger puts out an SR556 tailored for hunting, similar to Remington's R15 and R25. That removes the arguments that these typs of guns aren't used for hunting.
Until a huge amount of attitudes change in CA, I won't be able to get the Ruger, but I'll keep taking anti's to the range. It's amazing how that's the easiest way to change their minds.
But it's a Ruger, so holding true to Bills philosophy it will only hold 10 rounds to keep us safe/
MB,
Just to be clear my "Ho Hum" had nothing to do with the make up of the gun or the price. Just that it WAS an AR. As I have stated before I just don't really care for them. I wish Ruger would have come out with a pistol caliber carbine (like the old Deer Slayer but better mag capacity) or some nice , reasonably priced lever guns.
Guys...apples...oranges...rocks...strange comparisons abound!
A Mini with an AR mag? Where's the win for Ruger? They sell a lot of Minis as it is (all they can make as a matter of fact, and with 20 and 30 round magazines) and if they'd retooled it for an AR mag, I'd probably be reading, "You can put lipstick on a pig," etc.
Michael B
MB,Ruger made a couple of lever guns and no one wanted them.
Just to be clear my "Ho Hum" had nothing to do with the make up of the gun or the price. Just that it WAS an AR. As I have stated before I just don't really care for them. I wish Ruger would have come out with a pistol caliber carbine (like the old Deer Slayer but better mag capacity) or some nice , reasonably priced lever guns. Yeah, I realize it was a market driven decision as should be, but I can wish. ;D
Here is the AmmoLand article:
http://www.ammoland.com/2009/05/18/ruger-ar-sr-556-autoloading-rifle/
Yes MB, In line with what Haz said, no slam at Ruger beyond "another platform redefined" should have read " Proven bandwagon jumped upon".
VERY nice SCAR! You have now been officially put onto the same list as BillT, and Kilo. ;D ;D ;D
BTW, How do you like it. I have been drooling for months, but just haven't been able to part with that much cash.
Great!!!! Another "Tom" with Lots-O-Guns... ;D
Nice pics Tom.
Tom W.