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Title: Flashlights again.
Post by: alfsauve on March 28, 2016, 08:02:15 AM
[Don't remember if we started this thread here or in the general forum.]

Here's my collection of Streamlights, not including the TLR-1 and -2 weapon mounted ones.   Left to Right


(https://sauve.smugmug.com/Gun-General/i-Hd8Bg7L/0/XL/IMG_4460-XL.jpg)

Although it's bigger and heavier, I'm liking the HL USB more and more.   The idea that I can use regular, non-rechargeable batteries gives it versatility.    The wife keeps one at work for the strobe function.  Part of the Avoid, Deny, Defend program.
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: les snyder on October 29, 2016, 05:18:30 PM
it has been a while since Alf's post, so I thought I would introduce an off shore brand of LED lights that I really like.. after the 2004/2005 tropical storm season and a 3 and 9 day power outage I decided to standardize my hurricane lighting and electronics to AA Eneloop NiMH rechargeable...  the 9 day outage showed the usefulness of my only LED at the time, a Gerber Infinity... my first purchase was the now discontinued Fenix E21 at the bottom (2xAA), and doing some research on the net was introduced to a Hong Kong company called Solar Force... they make LED modules and light bodies that are very reasonable and so far of very good quality... (disclaimer, I do have a Malkof Devices LED module for my SureFire 6P)... from bottom... Fenix E21 (2xAA) Fenix E05 (1xAAA) my key ring light, Solar Force Z2 (1xAA) , Solar Force L2M body with XP-G low voltage module to match the voltage output of the 18650 rechargeable, and the mongo light a Solar Force L2N body with tube extension (3xcr123) and M3 head with XML2 module... when I cannot legally carry I pick the P60 size L2M... the XP-G die size is smaller than the XML2, but matches the focal point well and is blindingly bright...

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/001_zps6alfl9so.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/001_zps6alfl9so.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: alfsauve on October 29, 2016, 05:43:35 PM
Henry cool, les.

I since added Streamlight Pro Tac 1AA as an every day carry in my pocket.   Can't believe how much I use it daily.   And since I use it at work, they provide the batteries. 

I need to do something about solar rechargeable to have on hand for extended outages.

Title: Flashlights again.
Post by: Timothy on October 29, 2016, 06:43:02 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161029/a3519c0991a59ef57f14df8b9aec05da.jpg)

Surefire stays in the vehicle most days, Pro Tac in my pocket.
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: Solus on October 29, 2016, 07:17:11 PM
Ok...I've been thinking of some lights that I'd like to have and maybe the members here might have the knowledge to point me in the right direction and save me trying to separate good advice from scam on the net.

I'd like to find an emergency light that I can plug into an outlet and let it sit and come on automatically when the power goes out.  Doesn't have to be very bright...a bit brighter than a night light I'd guess.  I'd like to have them in a couple of places so I could find my way through the house in the dark if needed.

My concerns are that I have read, but do not know it is still true or ever was true, that most chargeable batteries don't like to be plugged into power 24/7 for maybe months.  Also, perhaps there is Battery Memory to be concerned about...if they unit is not fully discharged before recharging.  Don't know if minor 5 or 10 min outages during the day, for instance, would be detrimental to devices always hooked to power.

Anyone have experience or knowledge that can help? 

Thanks.
 
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: les snyder on October 29, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
Alf... re;solar...there are more cost effective options now, but I have a Goal Zero 7W panel that is about 5 years old, that I have in reserve to charge my AA Eneloop (I'd suggest the Japanese built Eneloops not Chinese... they were originally made by Sanyo, but were bought out by Panasonic)  get a charger first, the blue charger shown in the pic is a Fujicell SCH808F, but I don't think it is still available... I have a NiteCore  Intellicharger also...Maha is very highly recommended for large volume charging...make sure it works with a 12v plug, and get a 12v female adapter with a pair of battery clips on the leads to charge from a 12v source if you have it, and no cigarette lighter port available... the flexible Powerfilm units come highly recommended, the Goal Zero units are a little pricey but mine was a gift card purchase

with the GZ panel and Fujicell charger, I can charge 4 partially depleted AAs in around 3 hours in bright sunlight... AAAs faster... I've never really run a voltage check, but the visual "bar" charge indicator was 1 of 3 bars

in the pic, I have the GZ battery pack and Fujicell charger... both do not charge at the same time, I was showing both power input options.... 5V USB mini and 12v

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/001_zpsqh03axmy.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/001_zpsqh03axmy.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: Timothy on October 30, 2016, 09:14:41 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161030/5a49b31e563821610ab77e1154f9e17a.jpg)

A great bludgeoning device, served us well over the last 25 years but alas, not much of an illumination compared to modern ones... 

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Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: Majer on October 30, 2016, 09:24:32 AM
Timothy,go here and get this replacement bulb,much brighter than the stock bulb...
http://maglite.com/shop/parts-and-accessories/replacement-lamp-722.html#.WBYCGMn53DM
Or if you want a LED bulb
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Maglite+Led+Bulbs&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AMaglite+Led+Bulbs

Majer
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: les snyder on October 30, 2016, 10:44:49 AM
Timothy, as Majer commented... the MagLight LED lights are quantum leaps ahead of the old incandescent... the State of Florida usually has a tax free hurricane supplies day, and Lowes has had 3D and 2D LED MagLights as door busters for under $15... unless you go to the high end Malkoff drop in, I was not satisfied with the after market LED conversions... I have 3 of the 2D LEDs with split key ring attached by a post cable tie so I can clip them to my key ring

prior to a recent HF inverter generator purchase, this was my go-to for powering my portable digital TV, Eneloop recharging, and powering my 12v fans for tropical season... I keep it on a float charger... the cigarette receptacle is permanently attached, and fused... 94 A/hr deep discharge trolling motor battery

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/DSC00497_zps9f22464f.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/DSC00497_zps9f22464f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: Timothy on October 30, 2016, 04:43:57 PM
I'll look into both options, thanks!  That old light has done well thru a few hurricanes, nor'easters and been abused pretty regularly.  I think I'm still on the first bulb too, the wife keeps her nearby.
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: les snyder on October 30, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
lesson learned from the 2004 season... I had a tendency to set the Maglight down and with a severe case of CRS have to search for it... a post type cable tie and a split key ring allowed me to attach it to my key snap

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/DSC00430_zps7f39b3bd.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/DSC00430_zps7f39b3bd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: alfsauve on October 31, 2016, 07:08:50 AM

I'd like to find an emergency light that I can plug into an outlet and let it sit and come on automatically when the power goes out.  Doesn't have to be very bright...a bit brighter than a night light I'd guess.  I'd like to have them in a couple of places so I could find my way through the house in the dark if needed.

My concerns are that I have read, but do not know it is still true or ever was true, that most chargeable batteries don't like to be plugged into power 24/7 for maybe months.  Also, perhaps there is Battery Memory to be concerned about...if they unit is not fully discharged before recharging.  Don't know if minor 5 or 10 min outages during the day, for instance, would be detrimental to devices always hooked to power.

Anyone have experience or knowledge that can help? 

Thanks.

There are a number of manufacturers of just such lights.  I have both a GE brand and an Eveready one.   They are just a tad bigger than a night light.  Plug in the wall and contain enough smarts not to overcharge the battery inside.   Mine have three modes.   NIGHTLIGHT, which doesn't change when the power goes out, just provides a nightlight.  ON, which turns on the flashlight but only if the power is out or you unplug it.  And of course, OFF.

[ Sorry.  Photobucket and I have parted ways.  Images no longer available]



Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: alfsauve on October 31, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
Not a MagLight fan.  From the original that took two hands to twist and turn on, to their push button end caps which were unreliable.    Maybe they've improved, but I'd rather do Streamlight, my favorite, or Surefire or Fenix.



 
Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: alfsauve on October 31, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
Alf... re;solar...there are more cost effective options now, but I have a Goal Zero 7W panel that is about 5 years old, ...

Thanks, Les. 

Been looking at the Goal Zero.   I'm was thinking of two chargers.  One just for 5V USB stuff and the other for a 12V rig much like you show.    There are a number of options available through ham radio suppliers.  Just haven't bit the bullet on them yet.   I guess I should do something before 11/8 though.

Title: Re: Flashlights again.
Post by: Rastus on May 26, 2018, 04:00:50 PM
OK.  It's been a year and a half.  Any updates or new favorites?