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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: billt on August 02, 2015, 10:47:09 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-may-share-wi-164057617.html
This thing appears to be well on it's way to being a complete disaster right out of the starting gate. People have to be nuts to install this crap as soon as it comes out. You know it's all but guaranteed it's going to be full of bugs, security breaches, and problems left and right. Being first with a new operating system is a bit like being first for a new medical procedure..... Dumb.
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I work for a living creating operating systems. The problem isn't with being the first to use it, it's the company creating it. OK, Windows is a competitor to us so I realized I am bias ;). But my work computer uses biweekly development builds and we even have customers running the same thing on their production machines. I rarely run into issues.
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I heard the real downside is that you have to pay for a bunch of apps that should already come with it. Someone said you even have to pay for Realtek sound drivers so you can use your speakers. No thanks. Maybe by the time they quit supporting Windows 7 they'll have something else out.
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I worked there for years until recently. The problem is they fired all of their testers and sub-contract out a lot of important work. Many bugs get missed. I will definitely not be installing this garbage. I think MS is on their way out. Shame on Bill for letting this company be ruined by hiring cheap labor from 3rd world countries and not supporting the America that allowed his company to be a success in the first place.
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You IT guys can bitch all you want about "It sucks because it's windows", but let me ask this.
When was the last time you heard of a gun, car, or airplane being released that didn't have a list of bugs and flaws to be worked out n the first year ?
Sorry Bill, but anyone who has to have the newest model is asking for aggravation.
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You IT guys can bitch all you want about "It sucks because it's windows", but let me ask this.
When was the last time you heard of a gun, car, or airplane being released that didn't have a list of bugs and flaws to be worked out n the first year ?
Sorry Bill, but anyone who has to have the newest model is asking for aggravation.
That's only true to a small point with Windows. They've introduced some real dogs with fleas over the years, that never got fully straightened out. Remember Windows Vista? Or Windows Millennium? Neither ever did run as advertised, and were quickly scrapped for other more reliable versions.
I have a laptop with Windows Vista in it. It's only a matter of time before I toss it across the room. It's slower than a Democrat trying to balance the budget. Windows operating systems are like a real estate market. It seems every good one, (Windows XP & Windows 7), is followed by a bad one, (Windows Vista & Windows 10).
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I Suspect, from experience making parts for Cabletron, that like car and fashion designers, a lot of "New" designs are brought out because they are different than the old one. Not because they are any better.
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I Suspect, from experience making parts for Cabletron, that like car and fashion designers, a lot of "New" designs are brought out because they are different than the old one. Not because they are any better.
I have suspected MS changes the "look and feel" of their software while providing little or no extra features just to sell classes to those who use/support the product.
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That's only true to a small point with Windows. They've introduced some real dogs with fleas over the years, that never got fully straightened out. Remember Windows Vista? Or Windows Millennium? Neither ever did run as advertised, and were quickly scrapped for other more reliable versions.
I have a laptop with Windows Vista in it. It's only a matter of time before I toss it across the room. It's slower than a Democrat trying to balance the budget. Windows operating systems are like a real estate market. It seems every good one, (Windows XP & Windows 7), is followed by a bad one, (Windows Vista & Windows 10).
Not to mention Windows 8.0 which was quickly replaced by Windows 8.1 due to the hue and cry that went up.
And now, today, independents are announcing that Windows 10 records everything you do - keystrokes, emails, texts, etc. and MS stores it all, available to anyone with a court order.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-may-share-wi-164057617.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-may-share-wi-164057617.html)
Apparently MS handed over data last year to the tune of 30,000 "requests" in the last 6 months of 2014 alone.
Bill Gates got his start in questionable - some might say fraudulent - ways and I have seen nothing from that pissant to change my personal opinion of him or his products.
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Not to mention Windows 8.0 which was quickly replaced by Windows 8.1 due to the hue and cry that went up.
I forgot all about Windows 8. I bought a computer that had it, and I wound up taking it back after 2 weeks. The thing was so buggy I couldn't use the damn thing. It would lock up left and right. When I returned it to Best Buy, they gave me my money back no questions asked. They took the unit and placed it on the floor with at least 3 or 4 of the same model..... All with Windows 8. Then I didn't feel so bad. Total POS.
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I bought a new machine with Win7 three months after it debuted....out of necessity (because my 5-yr old unit with XP went to pot).
Knock on wood, it has been trouble free for almost six years. I have no plans to update until I need a new machine.
I have a few friends who are going through the update to Win10 and all say it is full of bloat-ware and a lot of hidden "automatic-on crap" that has to be manually manipulated through sub-menus to turn off.
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Having been the generation that actually invented this stuff, (I worked for the guy that invented Random Access Memory btw), I tend to skip generations of software releases. I'm on 7 (I don't count 8 as it was mainly aimed at tablets) and I'll probably not upgrade until the one after 10.
I really don't want my desktop, main line PC to act or feel like a tablet. I'm happy with the UI just the way it is.
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Having been the generation that actually invented this stuff, (I worked for the guy that invented Random Access Memory btw), I tend to skip generations of software releases. I'm on 7 (I don't count 8 as it was mainly aimed at tablets) and I'll probably not upgrade until the one after 10.
I really don't want my desktop, main line PC to act or feel like a tablet. I'm happy with the UI just the way it is.
Exactly. Making a "One Size Fits All" OS will give it "features" for one type that will be useless overhead for others.
I remember hearing that the first OS for the IBM PC had code to read punched cards because that was required by IBM policy for all OS.
Not sure if that is true or if it included the first release of Windows by IBM requirement.