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Title: GUN machining
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 02, 2021, 09:04:27 AM
I will be looking to have a pistol slide milled for an optic and want to shop around for best price and timing.
I've worked in, and out of the gun industry and I know that there is "tribal knowledge involved in all metal working , so I will not just go to one of my former co workers . (Ex; Square corners in a cut creating stress accumulation points )
Who do YOU use for GUN work ?
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: alfsauve on March 02, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
If you're in the N. Atlanta area, Bill Hayllar, machinist extraordinaire.  Worked for Lockheed for many years.  Don't know if he takes "mail in" work though.

Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: les snyder on March 02, 2021, 07:40:24 PM
Tom... I really think that a CNC controlled job is the best... over the years, I've seen 1911 slides (.38super and 9x25)really whittled away and not have a problem... the only Glock slide I've seen fail, was a very high round count USPSA shooter, and the slide cracked vertically at the front of the ejection port....

the precise milling by BattleWerx on my RMR, IMHO locks the sight in place very well to combat slide acceleration stresses about a week turn around and half of that was USPS small package
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: Rastus on March 02, 2021, 09:43:39 PM
Awwwww hell Tom, git urself a drimmel motor spinner tool and get after it....

 :o
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: BAC on March 03, 2021, 01:20:30 AM
Tribal knowledge?  In machining?  Nooooooo!   ;)
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 03, 2021, 08:51:17 AM
Awwwww hell Tom, git urself a drimmel motor spinner tool and get after it....

 :o

Not actually unreasonable .
That's why machinists spend so much time learning to use a file.   ;D


Tribal knowledge?  In machining?  Nooooooo!   ;)

Say, There is ONE person nearby I could ask. 
So BAC, how do you feel about personal projects ?    ;D

(Not a serious question, I know how it is   ;D  )
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on March 03, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
It seems around here that most of the really good machinists are passing away. It is a terrible waste of talent as most of them do/did not have an apprentice.
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: BAC on March 03, 2021, 10:19:50 AM
Not actually unreasonable .
That's why machinists spend so much time learning to use a file.   ;D


Say, There is ONE person nearby I could ask. 
So BAC, how do you feel about personal projects ?    ;D

(Not a serious question, I know how it is   ;D  )

Oddly, the apartment building allows pets, but not Bridgeports.  If you needed a pistol barrel...
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 03, 2021, 02:51:50 PM
It seems around here that most of the really good machinists are passing away. It is a terrible waste of talent as most of them do/did not have an apprentice.

The people I know might take my slide and then drop dead.
That's why I'm asking here.
There must be SOME gun smiths under 75.    ;D
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: Big Frank on November 18, 2021, 01:04:47 PM
Not actually unreasonable .
That's why machinists spend so much time learning to use a file.   ;D


Say, There is ONE person nearby I could ask. 
So BAC, how do you feel about personal projects ?    ;D

(Not a serious question, I know how it is   ;D  )

Hey, as long as you weren't talking about MB...  :D
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: Big Frank on November 18, 2021, 01:06:35 PM
It seems around here that most of the really good machinists are passing away. It is a terrible waste of talent as most of them do/did not have an apprentice.

That happens with too many true craftsmen no matter what trade they're in.
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: Big Frank on November 18, 2021, 01:19:02 PM
Not actually unreasonable .
That's why machinists spend so much time learning to use a file.   ;D


Say, There is ONE person nearby I could ask. 
So BAC, how do you feel about personal projects ?    ;D

(Not a serious question, I know how it is   ;D  )

I remember reading about an old machinists or metalworkers exam, in Germany IIRC, where they were given a chunk of steel and a file. Then they made a 1" cube (or whatever the measurement was) with no other metal working tools. Slap it in a vise, file, check for level, file, check for square, etc., until you had your perfect little steel cube. Or you didn't. It was a GO - NO GO kind of test, pass or fail. It wasn't like high school woodshop where we were graded on a kerf. ;)
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 18, 2021, 05:03:01 PM
I remember reading about an old machinists or metalworkers exam, in Germany IIRC, where they were given a chunk of steel and a file. Then they made a 1" cube (or whatever the measurement was) with no other metal working tools. Slap it in a vise, file, check for level, file, check for square, etc., until you had your perfect little steel cube. Or you didn't. It was a GO - NO GO kind of test, pass or fail. It wasn't like high school woodshop where we were graded on a kerf. ;)

Project #1 of pretty much any good machining course.
When C&Rsenal talks about Werndle getting sick of filing in Dad's factory, he doesn't mean shuffling papers.   ;D
One of my 3D print programs is a 25.4mm XYZ cube  ;D 
That is actually the purpose.
You are making a calibration cube so your first project is your first functional tool.
Title: Re: GUN machining
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 19, 2021, 09:11:44 AM
I remember reading about an old machinists or metalworkers exam, in Germany IIRC, where they were given a chunk of steel and a file. Then they made a 1" cube (or whatever the measurement was) with no other metal working tools. Slap it in a vise, file, check for level, file, check for square, etc., until you had your perfect little steel cube. Or you didn't. It was a GO - NO GO kind of test, pass or fail. It wasn't like high school woodshop where we were graded on a kerf. ;)

We had to pass a test like this in HS machine shop class before we were allowed to test on the machinery. The teacher gave us a 4" long bar of 2" x 3/8" cold-rolled, two files and a blueprint....and we were allowed to use a 6" bench vise to clamp it in. I still have the piece somewhere in my trappings.