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Title: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 20, 2017, 04:04:47 AM
Last night I won an auction for a Carcano carbine.  My WWII collection continues to grow.  What I have so far:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/713/32186170862_ce56098268_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R3bxfo)
DSC_4716.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/R3bxfo) by Brian Chiaravalle (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianchiaravalle/), on Flickr

Top to bottom:
Garand
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk I
Mauser k98k
Arisaka Type 99
Mosin Nagant 91/30

The Arisaka is the only one I haven't fired.  I don't trust it to be safe.  All the others are for shootin' instead of lookin' at.

If a French MAS 36 finds its way home, that's OK, too.  Updated photo when the new one arrives.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2017, 05:54:22 AM
Unless there is something obviously wrong the Arisaka should be just as safe as any other WW II rifle.
is it 6.5 or 7.7 ?
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: BAC on March 20, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
Unless there is something obviously wrong the Arisaka should be just as safe as any other WW II rifle.
is it 6.5 or 7.7 ?

7.7.  I found it at a little gun shop for under $200.  It was missing the spring and follower from the magazine, and the barrel looks like it has been repaired at some point.  I'm okay with it being a wallhanger since ammo for it costs upwards of $3/round and pretty hard to find.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 20, 2017, 12:43:18 PM
Where is the Official DRTV Photoe Authentication?
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
I think they wear shoes where he lives.  LOL
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 20, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
There's got to be a barefoot woman somewhere close by
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: BAC on March 20, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
Where is the Official DRTV Photoe Authentication?

Homey don't play dat.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: BAC on March 20, 2017, 12:51:12 PM
There's got to be a barefoot woman somewhere close by

In the kitchen, natch.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 20, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
I'm assuming you gave her the proper protection items concerning flying bacon grease and that pregnant belly
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2017, 01:39:13 PM
Meant to ask, does it have the Chrysanthemum, or was it ground off at the surrender ?
 
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: BAC on March 20, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Meant to ask, does it have the Chrysanthemum, or was it ground off at the surrender ?

No mum.  Monopod missing as well.  It does still have the cool anti-aircraft rear sight.

The one that impressed me most to shoot was the Enfield.  Maybe I like it better than the Garand (gulp).  Can't believe I just wrote that.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2017, 02:17:04 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: alfsauve on March 20, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
Very neat collection.

Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: Conagher 45 on March 21, 2017, 05:30:53 AM
I have noticed the price of Lee- Enfield has been going up over the past couple of years, now may be the time to get one. It is about the only other WWII rifle that interests me other than the Garand.
Title: Re: Finally!
Post by: BAC on March 21, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
I have noticed the price of Lee- Enfield has been going up over the past couple of years, now may be the time to get one. It is about the only other WWII rifle that interests me other than the Garand.

They are all going up in price rather rapidly.  The most expensive was the Garand, which I bought from the Ohio CMP store for around $600, and the cheapest was the Mosin ($75 including tax).
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 27, 2017, 04:36:48 PM
Looky at what showed up on my doorstep this afternoon:

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Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: Big Frank on March 27, 2017, 10:34:40 PM
That's a nice looking carbine. It looks so short compared to the full size rifles. It would be handy for hunting.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 28, 2017, 01:09:06 AM
I was surprised by how small it is.  My 10/22s are longer than it is.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 28, 2017, 06:59:13 AM
Over on Youtube, and Full 30  CandRsenal have excellent video's on WWI era Carcano's and "Arisaka's".
They have your Carcano, but if it had a monopod and AA sights your Japanese rifle is probably a type 99 .
The videos are on the type 30 , 38 , and 38 and 44 carbines.
All of them seem to be vastly under rated, although the 6.5 cartridges were kind of anemic.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: les snyder on March 28, 2017, 09:51:51 PM
the Arisaka's have the type year (of Meijii's reign) marked on the top of the receiver... 38 should look like three stacked horizontal lines and something like this  ) ( .... Japanese numerals are on the net....it's been 40 years since I was there
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 29, 2017, 06:14:30 AM
Then they throw in a curve by changing the system about the beginning of WWII.
Because the Meijii restoration was in 1868  But the Type 99 rifles had long come and gone by 1967 .
We're no better, -03 Springfield, Colt 1911, then M-1 Rifle, M1  Carbine.
The Russians seem to be the least confusing.




Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: jaybet on March 29, 2017, 09:00:21 AM
NICE!!!
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 29, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
The short and the long of it. [emoji1]

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Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: Big Frank on March 29, 2017, 10:18:16 PM
I don't know if the word "cute" applies to military rifles or not but if it does the carbine is cute.   ;)  The rifle looks unwieldy.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 29, 2017, 10:24:14 PM
I don't know if the word "cute" applies to military rifles or not but if it does the carbine is cute.   ;)  The rifle looks unwieldy.

My wife said it's a baby.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: Big Frank on March 29, 2017, 10:41:20 PM
Baby rifle is a very good description.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 30, 2017, 06:18:32 AM
Really, check out CandRsenal.
 Since all the bolt actions of WWII originated in the late 1800's and were left overs from WWI.
WARNING they haven't gotten to the 03 or Mosin Nagant, but they have about 3 hours each on the Enfields and Mausers broken up by model, same with the Carcano and Mannlicher/Steyr.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 30, 2017, 09:23:25 AM
Been watching for a little while.  Forgotten Weapons, too.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 30, 2017, 03:50:32 PM
;D My 2 favorite sites !
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on March 30, 2017, 05:25:41 PM
;D My 2 favorite sites !

Second that.
Title: Re: Carcano!
Post by: BAC on April 01, 2017, 11:26:14 AM
Got the Carcano all cleaned up today and decided to take a new family photo:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3853/33734872716_ffb136297c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tp33mu)
DSC_4799.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Tp33mu) by Brian Chiaravalle (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianchiaravalle/), on Flickr

Next stop...the range!