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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on January 02, 2017, 12:24:37 PM
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Presidents have a history of stepping into the shadows following the end of their time in office. For the good of the nation, they step back, and let the new president do his job. How about Pres. BHO, who along with is bride have praised Pres. GWB for the class of their transition and support? WWHHHHELLLLLL (Sorry Pres. Reagan), read this from Pres. BHO's statement on his farewell speech to be given soon in Chicago:
President Obama has said that while he won't weigh in on every issue once he is out of the White House, he would consider speaking up about issues that go to "core questions" about American values and ideals.
So much for class, respect, history, and what's best for the people of this nation >:( >:(
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What else would you expect from this trailer trash treasonous Muslim POS ?
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would expect him to act worthy of the office he holds! I don't care about his track record or legacy. It is all about the office and the nation he serves!
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He never served this nation, Mike...
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Remember those commercials on TV: "I'm not a doctor, but I played one on TV"?
He never served, but he played President in the Oval Office, and that means that he owes it to the office.
Pres. BHO did more to set back racism and hate in this nation in his eight short years than had been gained since Pres. Lincoln acted. From what I can read in his statement of today, if you think that Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton were bad - You ain't seen nothing yet! You think we have seen a lack of bi-partisonship over the last few administrations - We now are facing the possibility of our first former president lobbyist.
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You must not have been paying attention for the last 8 years. This is a big white Cadillac in front of a tar paper shack sort of POS we're talking about. $95 Milliom on vacations with your tax money.
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He owes more than he's willing to pay, just like the fuggers that voted for the piece is shite!
I'm not arguing with anything you've said but HE WILL NEVER GO AWAY and sadly, he's going to be sucking off the gubmint teat for the rest of his life...
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You must not have been paying attention for the last 8 years. This is a big white Cadillac in front of a tar paper shack sort of POS we're talking about. $95 Milliom on vacations with your tax money.
We can go back and forth about vacations and golf, but that is not the point or issue here. Presidents have a history of respect for the peaceful transfer of power, and they get out of the way of the incoming president. THAT IS THE POINT AND ISSUE!
We will survive money spent on vacations, we are so damn deep in debt it is a drop in the bucket at this point, but we will not survive a former president undermining the sitting president.
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Perhaps he will be assigned a Secret Service agent who is a realist rather than an idealist.....
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I'd bet that the disrespect will emanate from the Clintons too!
I think the last decent dem to leave was Carter! The last two, not so much!
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I'd bet that the disrespect will emanate from the Clintons too!
I think the last decent dem to leave was Carter! The last two, not so much!
That's not saying much, because Pres. WJC is the only one to leave, Pres. BHO will be second, since Carter.
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That's not saying much, because Pres. WJC is the only one to leave, Pres. BHO will be second, since Carter.
True but I've only been voting since 1976! Anything prior don't mean much and they're all dead anyways!
I'm focusing on the future and will ignore anything that BHO or his woman are saying. They've done a fine job of destroying the country and their party is suffering greatly for that effort! We soundly said as a nation "f*#k you!" to his legacy.. Time for some rebuilding...
LOL :)
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He never served this nation, Mike...
What else would you expect from this trailer trash treasonous Muslim POS ?
Tell us what you really mean by that Tom!!!
Timothy is on mark. No need to expect what you know won't be coming....
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We can go back and forth about vacations and golf, but that is not the point or issue here. Presidents have a history of respect for the peaceful transfer of power, and they get out of the way of the incoming president. THAT IS THE POINT AND ISSUE!
We will survive money spent on vacations, we are so damn deep in debt it is a drop in the bucket at this point, but we will not survive a former president undermining the sitting president.
The vacations are a small part of it but it points to the type of low class douche bags the Obama's are.
We used to have a word for people like that.
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Now Kerry is saying the same thing! Lol, they should make a TV show on NBC, based on this, called "Two Boobs and a Tranny!" They need to be ridiculed for being such imbeciles.
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Best guess is we will only hear minor things about him after a year or so.
I am sure he will write a few bull shit books and my go back to teaching law at some liberal shit hole. That is assuming he does mot move too Europe, which is best case for everyone.
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He wants to be the next head of the UN
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Unless the media learns self control, Pres. BHO will be in the media every time he wishes. The media feels dumped on by Trump, because he does not notify them or include them in every thing he does. They think they are entitled to unlimited access, and pre-event briefings so they can tell us what happened before it happens. Trump does not agree or believe this is the way it should be.
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The "media" are a discredited joke.
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This total asshole of a President, along with all of his worthless minions, have offered the American people nothing but political, social, and economic failure for the past 8 years. He going to be losing his audience very quickly once he leaves office. All he'll be doing is criticizing Trump's every move, along with every other Republican who's in power. The media will continue to slobber over him, and give him a mouthpiece, because he's all they've got left to carry on the hate. The Clinton's are finished in politics, and Biden soon will be. Who's left, that certified nut case Warren?
Americans are sick and tired of the Trump bashing. They've been O.D.'d on it for the last year and a half. Obama has set the Presidential performance bar so low, it will be difficult for Trump and the Republicans to not look like hero's and saviors. I think over the next 2 years the Democrats are going to do nothing except make themselves even less relevant than they are today. Even though that seems impossible, they'll manage it.
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I'm am not against BHO remaining in D.C. for a few months. Same as Trump letting his son finish the year in school, the Obamas are doing the same. The two things that will show how deeply he believes in his comments about taking the high road, like shown to them by the Bushs, will be during these next seven months:
1. The media will have easy access to BHO for comments on everything Trump says and does. Will BHO keep his mouth shut, like past presidents, or will he be on his soap box;
2. When school lets out, will they move on as promised?
This last couple months I have watched and listened, and this total loss for the DFL (aren't they the group that claimed the GOP was dead, rotting while waiting to be buried, and would never rise again) has put him into hyper mode in his office trying to protect "his legacy", and more importantly, protect his friends to assure he will have high power as soon as they can weasel back into the big stone buildings.
My gut feeling is that you will see Obama working to get himself into the U.N.. He will not be able to do it the next four years, but he will be there as a citizen with influence and future power.
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One of the problems with being at the top, of achieving something big, and yes being President is big, is that when it's done, it's done. We're seeing this played out with John Lewis and we'll see it with the Obamas. How do you put meaning back in your life after you've been on top? After you have some big, momentous event, discovery or moment, what next you your life?
This is a life view I've observed with others as well as myself. Not that I was ever "famous" but when you accomplish something in one field of endeavor, rarely do you go on to remain on top or accomplish newer and bigger things. Books, TV, and movies have given us the view that a the same person will rise to the occasion over and over. Superman, Batman, John McLain, John Wayne, & Gibbs, come to the rescue week after week, movie after movie. But in real life you're lucky to get one shot at something big. Most police never fire their guns in the line of duty, much less in multiple encounters. Most scientist have one big discovery. The opportunity to be a hero may, may occur only once in your life.
Celebrities, of course are looking for another movie, another song, another show or some way to keep themselves in the limelight. A few do achieve repeated success, but most just fad away. It's a fleeting pursuit. And it's why some do outrageous things to keep themselves before the public. To be important if only in their own eyes.
As far as President's go, TDR quickly put POTUS behind him to be a hunter & explorer. Carter changed to humanitarian. The Bush's have for the most part been content to carry on with their own lives, interjecting some good but not seeking the limelight. I think Bill Clinton would be content to just retire and do some humanitarian stuff. But Hillary and the Obama's are like the Kardashians. They will make every effort to keep themselves in the limelight. To interject themselves in current events, just for the purpose of their own self worth under the guise that they know better than the rest of us what's good for the country.
An aside of this is to know when to move on. To understand that timing, current events and situations put you in a position to do something great. Heroes are those that rise to the occasion when it demands. But those situations are fleeting. Fame is fleeting. Continuing to advance some field of research is fleeting. Celebrity status is fleeting. As the newspaper industry use to say, they're wrapping fish with yesterday's headlines. Recognize when to hold'm, when to fold'm, when to walk away and when to run.
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Alf, that is an excellent summation....IMHO.
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Up or out, and there ain't no more up.