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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: jaybet on November 16, 2012, 12:05:53 PM
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So...I'm completely disappointed in politics, which is something I hate anyway. I belong to the NRA, SAF, and NJ2AF. All that aside, screw Petraeus (SOMEONE has been, anyway), BHO, Feinstein, Bloombutt, and Romney for that matter....
I can listen (or read) about people whining about politics almost anywhere I go, but I come here for the gun chattage...so Staaat Chaaatttin'!!!
I've been loading for and breaking in my new Springfield XDS, got a nice IWB for it and I'm happy with that. I got some 357 brass and I am slowly converting our target shooting stash from .38 to .357. I'm enjoying working out some very pleasant shooting loads for both revolver target and for the Rossi .357 lever gun- for that one I can shoot some lever gun matches at my club. I'm working up some stock so I can dope out both lead and plated rounds for the matches.
I very recently made the long awaited leap to an EBR build in .223, purchased from a NJ acquaintance. It is set up just as I bought it. I plan to get out this weekend and put some Remington UMC through it just to get to know it a little. I'm thinking an inexpensive fast acquisition optic will make it just fine for my enjoyment. Photo here.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll237/jaybethel/arst-15.jpg)
As far as I know this is a Spikes Tactical lower with Daniel Defense parts kit,
most of the rest is DD and Magpul I think, and an ACE skeleton buttstock, which has (I'm told) a fairly heavy recoil spring.
That's my installment for some renewed "GUNTALK" . I'll be happy to discuss any of it if anyone is inclined.
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That's a beautiful EBR, Jay! But it seems something's missing from that pic? ;D
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Can't post photos, because of wrappings. However, I have a S&W M&P9 in the car, and we are leaving for Kansas in less than an hour. M&P9, S&W Range Bag, two extra 16 round magazines, 250 rounds of practice ammunition, and some cleaning supplies heading to kid #1 for Christmas this weekend.
A GunVault and some other bits and pieces will be purchased down there when he thinks we are shopping for him to purchase the gun.
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GUNS? We're supposed to be talking about guns? When did that start?
Nice catch on that AR...Spike's and DD are some of the absolute best stuff out there.My "house carbine" is a Spike's gun. As far as an inexpensive dot, I've had a Tasco ProPoint for the better part of 20 years. Total maintenance has been to replace the battery...once. Bot bad for $100 bucks. I also just bought one of the Walther red dots for a .22 AR...not sure how it would hold up under the .223.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/tasco-propoint-1x32-rifle-scope-pdts132.html
Redfield is also gearing up their lower priced AR line. What I have in house looks great...I'm going to put the 3-9 on my DD longer range gun...
Michael B
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That looks like a low profile handguard. If so you could use an Eotech 512. I love that optic for two reasons despite its drawback. The drawback is that it uses up a lot of real estate on the rails, but with a low profile hanguard it can overhang with no problem, as long as its clamped tightly. That said, I prefer the Eotech's clear bright optic picture of of a circle with a dot inside of it (the circle is 6 MOA, the dot is 1 MOA) over the simple dot you get with an Aimpoint. It makes for faster target acquisition. The other thing I like is that it uses two AA batteries that you can find anywhere, as opposed to some exotic lithium special you won't be able to find if things go pear shaped. Your hand guard doesn't appear to be free floated, so your optic will need to be mounted on the receiver. No big. The Vortex Spark (SP?) is also a good option. Check E-bay for both.
Anyway, nice rifle Jaybet. You couldn't ask for better quality. I hope you enjoy it. You done good!
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That's a beautiful EBR, Jay! But it seems something's missing from that pic? ;D
Yeah, it didn't come with toes. An oversight on my part.
MB- thanks for the comments on parts ... I was happy to hear what it was made of, it's a real good start.
Knowing nothing about AR types...can the trigger junk be polished up like on a revolver to smoothen or lighten it just a bit or is that something that doesn't happen? I know you can buy $250 triggers, but I was wondering how prevalent a little spit shine is with this type of weapon.
Also, as stated in another thread, FQ made some common sense comments that were helpful in my search (No, ... REALLY!) Also I ran a few options by RASTUS who dissected them on a technical basis which gave me a greater understanding of what I might be looking for. THEN....it just popped up!!! And just for your edification, it is NJ compliant. Things that come to mind are permanently attached compensator, fixed length buttstock (can't be adjustable) and the "20 round" Pmag is actually pinned to 15 rds, NJ max. Ain't we got fun?
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On one of my ARs I polished the action and on the other one I bought a trigger kit. They both feel the same to me but I prefer to buy the kit.
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What no TB on this one? He must be slipping!
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Nice, Jay.
I'm new to the AR owners club myself. Have not posted a 'range report' since so many folks have them it wouldn't really provide anything not already known.
Got some PMags from Brownells ....... but have not tried them. They get top reviews.
Anyway, good luck with the new EBR.
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Jay, you can polish up the existing triggers...I'm thinking the DD trigger should be okay and they're excellent base parts. If you decide to spend the bucks, get this one:
http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.8.1_ezt.php
Before you do, though, get that weird boron nitride hammer/sear grease for $4.95. Good stuff. Don't smear it on toast. Trust me on this.
Michael B
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Jay, you can polish up the existing triggers...I'm thinking the DD trigger should be okay and they're excellent base parts. If you decide to spend the bucks, get this one:
http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.8.1_ezt.php
Before you do, though, get that weird boron nitride hammer/sear grease for $4.95. Good stuff. Don't smear it on toast. Trust me on this.
Michael B
MB, is there an embarrassing story here ?
Or is your Sweetie still peeved about you storing it in the fridge ? ;D
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So I took this new Frankenmanster AR out to the range today. It was cold and windy but I had a fever.
Had one FTE, not sure what that was all about, but out of 70 rounds with a weapon I'd never fired before, I pretty much ignored it.
Iron sight with rear peep-hole, that ain't me, so I was experimenting, shooting from bench rest. Also not knowing much about 223 I was thinking somewhere there's an arc...
Started at 25 yds and fired 20 rounds. Was high, then was low, then wasn't bad, see below.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll237/jaybethel/AR-bench50yd1-1.jpg)
Zeroed in on it nicely.
Thought I'd have to adjust height at 50 yds so it took awhile, same thing though...the later rounds were the better except for the last 10 rounds offhand. See below.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll237/jaybethel/AR-50yd.jpg)
I'm pretty much a lousy shot anyway, but I like this rifle. Loud as hell, but a soft shooter, and once I figured out there was no elevation change from 25 to 50 yds, I zeroed in on it pretty well.
I'm a happy boy!
I really do need an optic though for "quick" acquisition. I find when I first sight up I'm more often than not looking at one of the side bars on the front sight instead of the center. That might just take some practice though.
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Good for you! You'll learn to love it. My DPMS, first three out of the box shot a clover leaf at ten yards. I was doing the Snoopy dance. It was harder at 50, then at 100 it settled down. After a very few hundred rounds I am more that happy with the accuracy, and it beats my old mini-14 all hollow. I can put 5 inside a napkin off hand at 100 yards (the longest local range), and like you, I ain't Annie Oakley. Its a great platform and you have great components. Get a red dot as our eyes are too damn old for small peep sights. For combat effectiveness and speedy quick acquistion I would look at any of the eotech models. I'm not saying this out of brand loyalty, but just because their dot inside a circle makes it quick on target and you have the dot for more precise stuff. Me, I'm not so worried about the ten ring, but I do want to know that at 250 or so I can get the job done.
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Jay, you can polish up the existing triggers...I'm thinking the DD trigger should be okay and they're excellent base parts. If you decide to spend the bucks, get this one:
http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.8.1_ezt.php
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Michael B
MB, have you had the chance to compare the JP trigger with the Wilson Combat trigger?
J, glad to see you have something you like!
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Rastus I'm glad you're glad...you're observations on that other build made me sit up with a woody when I heard about this one.
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Whatever you're planning to shoot at from 50-100 yards is going to die Jay! Good 'nuf!
I'm a "if'n I can see it, I kin probably hit it!" kind of guy too.....a quick optic can help our tired old eyes as evidence on my SIL's AR last summer but irons will do as well.
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Rastus I'm glad you're glad...you're observations on that other build made me sit up with a woody when I heard about this one.
Glad to have been of service. I hope nothing I said disappointed you when you got this little dish.
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jaybet, I'm glad that you're glad. But chuckled at you aiming through the side bar of the front site. I did the same thing for two or three rounds at the range last month when I borrowed my son's RR. Shooter to my left never figured out why he got three bulls! Just braggin'...fibbin' actually. Don't own an AR myself, but was trained on an M4. Been awhile since that time (5 years), but really felt foolish when I made that classic mistake. Tom/MB, you pros all can stop laughing now.
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swing the muzzle a tad and make sure you are using the center post until you get used to the visual difference between the post and the protective ears.
I never made that mistake with an AR but I have with an M-1 carbine. ;D
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Funny, I never did that with the M1, M1 carbine, or the M4. But, thanks for fessing up, Tom. repeat after me: a curved side post is not a center post...a curved...