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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on August 15, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
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By now we have all heard about the "racist cop" who shot the "unarmed black teen".
There's a few facts that you're NOT hearing though, for starters, while the PD may be mostly white, the now named Cop may be black.
http://theblacksphere.net/2014/8/ferguson-cop-is-black-plus
I called this within hours of the incident, and that’s because I know Liberals better than their pathetic mothers!
Darren Wilson is the cop who shot Michael Brown, Jr. and Darren Wilson is BLACK!
I predicted this, because if he had been white, this issue would have hit NUCLEAR proportions.
What’s interesting is the background of Darren Wilson is what Wilson’s role was as reported in St. Louis Today:
Minority officers sounded off for more than two hours Wednesday before the police department’s highest-ranking black commanders about issues they believe illustrate racism within the ranks and the need for reform. But those commanders blamed some of the issues on unmotivated officers. About 30 members of the Ethical Society of Police packed the organization’s office for the special meeting convened to call black commanders to action in the wake of a racist letter sent to a black police officer, presumably by another officer in South Patrol. The group’s president, Sgt. Darren Wilson, said last week that the racist note was symptomatic of a larger, citywide problem. About a third of the 1,325-member police force is African-American; the city it serves is almost equally divided between black and white residents. “If you’re treating a police department employee like this, how are we treating our citizens?” Wilson asked.
I’d like to see how black people calling for more black cops try to spin this!
Be aware that this disclaimer has been added as I was posting
We are removing this story, since we are told that this is NOT the same Darren Wilson. Efforts are being made to find the correct Darren Wilson.
That said, I still believe this cop is black.
As for the "innocent teen", the reason the officer wanted to talk to him is in that he was the prime suspect in a theft.
http://threepercenternation.com/2014/08/breaking-mikebrown-primary-subject-in-strong-armed-robbery-just-before-the-fatal-shooting/
(KTVI)- Chief Tom Jackson confirms that the name of the officer who shot and killed Michael Brown is Darren Wilson.
Michael Brown was allegedly involved in a convenience store theft.
Police have released a video from an August 9th robbery where Michael Brown was the primary suspect. The robbery occurred at a convenience store between 11:53 and 11:54 am Saturday morning.
Nothing specific happened that affected their decision making but they feel there’s a certain calm and deep outcry from community. Huge Sunshine Law requests and other legal issues had to be weighed out.
The chief would not comment on the safety precautions of the officer involved. He says there have been security concerns all along.
He is asking for the community to remain calm.
Police in Ferguson, Missouri plan to release the name of the officer who shot Michael Brown Friday. The St. Louis suburb has been the scene of demonstrations since Brown died last weekend.
State troopers are taking over security in this St. Louis suburb after days of clashes between local police and protesters.
Gov. Jay Nixon said he decided to put the Missouri State Highway Patrol in charge of security because “at this particular point, the attitudes weren’t improving, and the blocks towards expression appeared to be a flashpoint.”
Lately, the community of Ferguson, which has been the scene of demonstrations and a strong police response in the wake of a weekend police shooting that left African-American teenager Michael Brown dead, has looked “more like a war zone, and it’s not acceptable,” Nixon said.
Now, authorities — who’ve faced accusations that they’ve used excessive force in response to demonstrations — will be taking a different tack in an effort to calm tensions, officials said Thursday.
“We’re all about making sure that we allow peaceful and appropriate protests, that we use force only when necessary, that we step back a little bit and let some of the energy be felt in this region, appropriately,” Nixon said
Chosen by the state’s governor to head up the new security operation, Missouri State Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson said he planned to meet with protesters Thursday.
“We are going to have a different approach and have the approach that we’re in this together,” he said.
As groups of protesters grew Thursday evening, the demonstrations were calm.
Some said they were prepared for police aggression, despite what authorities have promised.
“Gas me, shoot me, I will stand my ground,” one protester’s sign said.
Time will tell if the new police tactics work, said Patricia Bynes, Democratic committeewoman for Ferguson Township.
“Things usually tend to turn once the sun starts going down. … I think the test is going to be this evening,” she said.
Antonio French, a St. Louis alderman who was arrested at a demonstration in Ferguson Wednesday, said he’s already noticed the new tone.
“Really, it has been the police presence, the heavy-handed presence, which has escalated the situation and I think led to the violence each night. And so it’s good to see this new approach,” he said. “Already there is a different attitude and a different interaction between the crowd and police, and I am very hopeful for a peaceful night.”
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And we knew we'd have a few Ambulance/Agenda Chasers. Here's one from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/ (http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/) .
It talks about a coming race war, "Ferguson is not just about systemic racism — it's about class warfare and how America's poor are held back", says Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Also about how America's poor are held back. Of course, since it is written from the victim standpoint without citing the need for personal responsibility it's just so much hot air.
At a point he speaks how racism is fist shaking and misses the 50million poor in the US voting block who can't get it together but if they did watch out. Of course they can't get it together...they are, as he says, distracted by emotionalism...why of course they are that's what drives sheep and liberals.
He also says he doesn't want to paint all the "superrich" with the same broad strokes when citing the superrich who were looking to reduce a plethora of things: student loans excesses, food stamps, extended unemployment benefits. I'm for personal responsibility...but I do recognize the need for food stamps and unemployment benefit extension in light of the systematic destruction of the US economy wrote upon us by liberals and self-centered industrialist who have changed the laws, added laws and ignored law and common decency to screw their fellow citizens. Jabbar misses the point here by implying we need all of this...yeah we need it right now, but because of the kind of self-centered liberals and lying RINO's that are in power along with totalitarians he supported like Obama.
He says we all need to get together to get rid of corrupt politicians...I agree. But then what? Without personal responsibility it's ultimately the same thing.
So...for Kareem and his ilk it is business as usual.....all good things flow from government and we need to shakeup the government so all is good. Right.
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I will use the commentary of Mr. Fred Reed to make my point rather then offend the sensitivities of the defenders of the dead thug!
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Ferguson.shtml
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JPFO has an article on Ferguson. Where ever the chips fall on the justifiability of the shooting, there is a problem with the police.
Oh, the Things We Choose Not to See!
You may believe Brown was on his knees, arms raised in surrender and supplication when Wilson executed him. You may believe that Wilson fired in self defense as Brown lunged for the officer's gun. You may believe the shooting was an act of fatal racism or the justified elimination of a garden-variety criminal whose race was irrelevant.
Only one thing is certain and now obvious to nearly everybody now: Policing in the U.S. has gone completely wrong.
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd04/wolfe-police-militarization.htm
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I don't know what happened and really don't care. my only issue is the military style response of the police force. also its amazing at how the media reacted to the police telling them nicely, leave its not safe, then again and again and again. then finally not being nice. they should have left them to the rioters.
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IMHO, the information we have to date about the actual shooting incident and as more hard evidence comes in, I only have more questions
1) Given that today's information indicates that all shots were fired from 2 feet away or more, and that the subject ended up some distance from the vehicle, the initial reports that he was shot in a struggle over the officer's firearm seems less and less likely. Why was the officer unable to use his baton, Mace/pepper spray or Taser? I know this guy was huge - but to resort to lethal force without using any of these does raise questions that need to be answered.
2) We have all heard that this young man was headed to college on a scholarship. We have also all seen the footage of the theft he was involved in. My question is simple: Did he have a prior record? Was this a stupid, one time thing - or was it SOP for this kid?
3) What if any substances were present in the kids blood?
I also have some questions regarding the community:
1) How does a majority black community end up with an all white or nearly all white city government? Is this the only city in America where black folks do not vote? Have no black candidates run for office? Yes, I get that we don't always vote for people of the same race - but when city government is so different than the community, something is wrong.....
2) Why does is the police department nearly all white? Why did it have such a bad relationship with the community?
It is worth pointing out that few, if any of those arrested have actually been from Ferguson. People from the community attempted to protect businesses from looting and as I type this I see community leaders standing between the hotheads and the cops, attempting to keep peace. I see them going after someone who threw something at the cops. In short, this could be going a lot worse if it were not for community leaders.
In addition to the above questions, I am sure there are many more that I haven't thought of - and for all of these reasons I will wait for more information to come to light before I decide what happened.
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2 feet or more does not really mean anything, not much difference between 24" and 36" inches. both are still arms lengths. if I was struggling to control my weapon, if I could create that distance, you can bet your ass I am shooting. the fact that he is huge would only give more creditability that I was in fear for my life/ great harm. it takes more time to draw a baton then it does a gun as they are tipically carried cross draw then there is the strikes, which remember can not be to the head, only body/ legs. pepper spray is a no go at close range, it hits you to. neither of those options are fight stoppers.
that being said I don't know what happened and really don't care. just I would not use those tid bits of info to disprove a store of fighting over a weapon.
as to scolarships... that has nothing to do with the kid... I know lots of people that had them, from every thing from contests to sports. hell I give one out every year to a senior on my hs wrestling team. its only $100, its based on heart. ie how hard does the person try.
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You're right Vince, there are a LOT of questions...
The more "facts" they release, the more questions seem to be raised or unanswered.
What I would like to see is a carefully constructed timeline (initial contact, broadcast of robbery on radio, physical contact & shooting) but that won't be available until the investigation is complete.
People from the community attempted to protect businesses from looting and as I type this I see community leaders standing between the hotheads and the cops, attempting to keep peace.
That is one bright light in this whole $hi+show.
There was a report of this....(1st night) supposedly some residents broke into an auto repair shop, grabbed the customers keys and all the tires and wheels they could haul off to protect them.
They brought the stuff back the next day and returned everything to the shop owner.
Heads up proactive help from good folks to keep loss to a minimum. 8)
If Ferguson's PD and the County's investigations come up with a clean slate for the cop, the feces is going to impact the rotating propeller at warp speed.
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This is a media distraction,when is the last time we heard or read anything about the invasion on our southern border?
What else could be the news of the day if this wasn't in the headlines?
Whoever engineered this turned a local incident in to a national call to riot! From what little reliable information I could get from the news I would have shot him too. The wound pattern shows the Officer has the same bad habit I do, he curls his finger across the trigger as he fires!
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I'll put a different twist on this........I'M BORED WITH IT!....... All of it. These people, (blacks), are always primed for this type of thing with the safety off, ready to fire. They store up the energy like one of those air powered pumpkin launchers. Then let it all go just as soon as the time is right. How does stealing big screen TV's and expensive clothes they can't afford coincide with what happened? It doesn't. It just happens to be the "event" that pulls their trigger to not only do it, but more impotantly, get away with it..
When I was a kid I saw it on TV with the Watts riots. I saw it in Detroit, and L.A. As well as other cities after Martin Luther King was killed. I saw it after the Rodney King verdict was announced. I saw it after Trevon Martin got himself killed for being stupid. And now I'm seeing it in Ferguson because another black idiot gets himself shot after robbing a store, and starting a struggle with a cop. (That's what happened regardless of how much they want to spin it otherwise.) This idiot was not murdered in cold blood for nothing.
This will never end. I don't give a rats ass who, "calls for calm and peace". I don't care how many times the asinine media parades the "victims" grieving family in front of everyone in prime time, acting like they care, and are "trying to understand". Sharpton and Jackson will always show up to beat the mix into a steaming froth, and earn their paychecks as the race baiters they are, and always were. Neither give a damn what happens to blacks, unless it's whites doing it to them. This will continue forever. In the 61 years I've been alive it's gotten worse, not better. And it will continue to get worse, regardless of how much whites try to act politically correct, and kiss black ass in the process.
You could give them all the prosperity their little hearts desire, and they will destroy all of it, and come back wanting more. And much like the "good Muslims", they do nothing to offset the carnage the "bad ones" cause on a never ending basis. Because deep down they themselves don't care, or else they're for it. Sharpton makes the most of these situations by trying to escalate them, while whites try to see who can be the most politically correct, and look like the biggest ass hats doing it. They'll parade a bunch of educated blacks in front of the camera, trying to, "understand the problem". Acting stupid and ignorant of the real problem that's been starring them in the face for the last century plus. That is blacks and whites will NEVER live in peace and harmony. Regardless of how much Paul McCartney, or anyone else sings or talks about it.
I will go to my grave watching this kind of thing, regardless of how long I live. If I had kids they would go to their graves watching much the same thing. These things play out like a bad rerun of a lousy TV show that was bad from the get go. Each time you watch it, they get a little worse. I can see bad behavior from blacks, or anyone else, most anywhere. I don't need to watch it in concentration, because some poor cop is doing his job, and the blacks don't seem to like peace and civility, so they use it as a grandiose excuse to act like idiots.
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http://controversialtimes.com/news/breaking-update-12-witnesses-all-say-michael-brown-attacked-officer-before-being-shot-killed/
St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Christine Byers is reporting that the Ferguson Police Department has over 12 witnesses whose account of the Michael Brown shooting matches the description the officer allegedly gave.
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If is true, I would love to hear the race baiters respond to it..
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If is true, I would love to hear the race baiters respond to it..
They will just ignore it, the way they ignored the fact that Trayvon Martin was committing assault when he was shot.
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http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-outside-agitators-entering-fray-180100090.html
Over the past 10 days, the rioting in Ferguson, Mo., has turned from a local protest by a black community against its overwhelmingly white police force to an international symbol of the racial tensions that still plague urban America.
Along the way, outside protesters have begun to flood into the suburb, inciting violence even when community members are promoting peace. While the exact number of “militants” – as the hard-core, Molotov cocktail-throwing outsiders have been called – is unknown, Missouri police officials and politicians have implied that they compose a significant fraction of those looting and battling police.
On Monday, when Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon (D) signed an order deploying the National Guard to Ferguson, he cited “violent criminal acts of an organized and growing number of individuals, many from outside the community and state, who are putting ... residents and businesses ... at risk.”
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On Tuesday, after a night in which police reportedly came under “heavy attack” from “coordinated” groups, Missouri State Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson, a black Ferguson native, pledged in an interview with CNN that he would “not ... let criminals that have come out here from across this country or live in this community define this neighborhood.”
US Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) of Missouri said on MSNBC that Ferguson had been “invaded” by agitators from other communities.
While many of these outside protesters have come from other parts of the St. Louis area with deep racial imbalances in local governments and police departments, many have also arrived in buses from places like New York, Chicago, and Detroit. Though county police have not publicly released arrest numbers relating to the riots, a bundle of about 50 arrest reports obtained by a Washington Post reporter included a “large number” with Illinois and Texas addresses.
“It’s like looting tourism,” an officer told the Post. “It’s like they are spending their gas money to come down here and steal.”
While many of these outsiders have come on their own initiative, others are part of larger fringe organizations. None will reveal their names, and many carry guns.
Among the groups active in Ferguson are the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) and the Revolution Club of Chicago. The RCP – a small, mysterious, but nationally dispersed Maoist cell led by activist Bob Avakian – has been in the area since at least Wednesday, along with the Revolution Club and the New Black Panthers Party. The New Black Panthers Party has been classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, among other organizations.
“We have a responsibility to be here,” Lou Downey of the Revolution Club told The Kansas City Star. “We are revolutionaries. We’re working to do this in a way that puts an end to the system that for generations has criminalized youth, especially black youth, and rounds them up into prisons.”
That’s not to say that all outside groups involved in the protests are inciting violence. Organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the Organization for Black Struggle have advocated peace on the streets.
Protesters also say that the most heavily armed groups in Ferguson at the moment are police and the National Guard, which arrived on Monday after rioters fired guns and threw incendiary devices at police. In the past week, local law enforcement – namely the Ferguson Police Department – has come under criticism for employing militarized equipment, including automatic weapons and mine-proof armored vehicles, and wearing military fatigues.
On Monday night, police resorted to tear gas and stun grenades after coming under “heavy gunfire,” according to Captain Johnson.
Police have also been criticized in recent days for heavy-handed treatment of journalists.
Last Wednesday, Ferguson police arrested two reporters, one from The Washington Post and another from The Huffington Post, apparently without strong justification, and they fired tear gas at an Al Jazeera television crew while its members were setting up a video shoot behind a police cordon. On Monday night, county police temporarily detained three more journalists: Getty photographer Scott Olson, Lukas Hermsmeier of the German outlet BILD, and Ryan Devereaux of The Intercept, an organization covering national security issues.
“We are concerned by the detention and harassment of reporters trying to cover the news in Ferguson,” Robert Mahoney, director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, said in a statement Monday. “Journalists have a right to work freely in the streets of any American city, and authorities in Ferguson have a duty to ensure that they can do so there too.”
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They need to do what Daly did in Chicago. Give a shoot to kill order for ANY arsonists, and or looters.
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I have a Navy shipmate who grew up in Ferguson but moved out in '72. I talked to him on Saturday and he said back then, it was a middle class town of regular folks. White and black, mixed and normal!
Today, he can't walk down the street without harassment. It's become everything E. St. Louis has been for years.
I say let it burn...
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I say let it burn...
The way this thing is going, it most likely will. I think this sums it up pretty well.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/cops_zps0c7318f4.jpg) (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/billt460/media/cops_zps0c7318f4.jpg.html)
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I heard Brian Williams tonight talking about the "civilians" contrasting them against the police. I think that's a problem right there. When did LEOs (not all I know) start to think of themselves as separate and above the rest of us?
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The more press they get, the more they'll riot. Everyone should just pull out of there. The cops, the media, the National Guard, everyone. Let them not only burn the place, but get no press coverage from it, and be forced to live with the aftermath. All for nothing.
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The more press they get, the more they'll riot. Everyone should just pull out of there. The cops, the media, the National Guard, everyone. Let them not only burn the place, but get no press coverage from it, and be forced to live with the aftermath. All for nothing.
What would happen is the armed locals would shoot the crap out of the out of town trouble makers.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/Ferguson-officer-injury-shooting/2014/08/20/id/589766/
Michael Brown allegedly attacked Officer Darren Wilson as he sat in his patrol car, shattering Wilson's eye socket, the Gateway Pundit website reported, citing sources it didn't identify.
Wilson has been telling friends — he's made no public statement and is in seclusion — that he shot the hulking, unarmed, 18-year-old black youth after Brown "bum-rushed" him.
Police told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that they have substantiated Wilson's version of the incident. "Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop's version of events in shooting," the paper's crime reporter Christine Byers tweeted, according to the New York Post.
Wilson, who is white, reportedly suffered an "orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket" during the Aug. 9 encounter, sources in the St. Louis County Police Department and the District Attorney's office told Gateway Pundit.
The Ferguson, Missouri, shooting has sparked more than a week of unrest.
Michael Brown's parents, Michael Sr. and Lesley McSpadden, have demanded that Wilson be arrested and prosecuted. "Justice will bring peace," McSpadden said, NBC News reported.
Friends describe Brown as a "gentle giant" who was gearing up to start Vatterott College career training institute later this week, the St. Louis-Post Dispatch reported.
Meanwhile, in the early hours of Tuesday morning, police shot and killed a knife-wielding 23-year-old black man — just two miles from where the Brown incident took place — who had stolen pastries and energy drinks from a convenience store.
According to Sam Dotson, chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, City of St. Louis: "The suspect, who right now is described as a 23-year-old African-American, was acting erratically — walking back and forth up and down the street. As officers arrived, the suspect turned towards the officers and started to walk towards them clutching his waistband. He then pulled out a knife . . . and told the officers, 'Shoot me now! Kill me now!'"
Dotson added, "One of the witnesses described it as a suicide by cop," the Post-Dispatch reported.
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Tom...if in fact the cop did get his face broken what's that got to do with anything?
The cool-aide is good, the cool-aide is strong. Long live our right to drink cool-aide. Violence will never affect me or mine, I'm too smart for it to affect me....I know how to overcome violence and to prevent it. Peace for peace's sake...love everyone...we can all have a butterfly as our friend. Anger is overcome by peace and love and we can all just get together and be at peace if you would just give it a chance.
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Tom...if in fact the cop did get his face broken what's that got to do with anything?
I'm going to go way out on a limb and say, if you smash a cop in the face so hard you destroy his eye socket, along with his vision, (even temporarily), it's reason enough to send the offender to the promised land with as many rounds as you can put into him. There shouldn't be any talk from the media about this guy "facing charges". Yet that is what they're desperately trying to drum up. Just like they did with the whole Trevon Martin debacle. Zimmerman should have never been charged.
If this thing results in yet another unnecessary, stupid, dog and pony show trial, it will be to temporarily appease the blacks. Local or imported. Then it will be more unrest, along with the accompanying smashing, burning, and looting after he's found not guilty. This is nothing but a stupid, foolish, politically correct, racial merry-go-round that is going nowhere. Just like it has for the last half century or more every time one of these "gentle giants" gets rightly blown away by a cop for his violent actions.
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If ANYONE is smashed in the face that hard from an unprovoked attack, they have exactly the same rights to dispose of the attacker as the police do.
They should face the exact same treatment by the legal system as the officer does...no more, no less.
If the police officer is not cuffed, arrested and relieved of his weapon, neither should the non-police citizen.
Further, if the unprovoked attacker is a police officer, on duty or off, nothing changes.
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If a 300lb, 6 foot plus guy charges me bellowing threats of physical violence and possibly death, that is a disparity of force right there, and lethal force is (IMO, IANAL) justified for me, a cop, somedood, whoever. He can beat me to a bloody pulp and inflict textbook examples of "grievous bodily harm" onto my person.
Not. Good.
What seems to me is that we have a low-level thug wannabe who was used to beating people up to get his way, and tried that trick one time too many.
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If ANYONE is smashed in the face that hard from an unprovoked attack, they have exactly the same rights to dispose of the attacker as the police do.
They should face the exact same treatment by the legal system as the officer does...no more, no less.
If the police officer is not cuffed, arrested and relieved of his weapon, neither should the non-police citizen.
Further, if the unprovoked attacker is a police officer, on duty or off, nothing changes.
Reread the thread Solus, the cop is the victim here.
I'm going to go way out on a limb and say, if you smash a cop in the face so hard you destroy his eye socket, along with his vision, (even temporarily), it's reason enough to send the offender to the promised land with as many rounds as you can put into him. There shouldn't be any talk from the media about this guy "facing charges". Yet that is what they're desperately trying to drum up. Just like they did with the whole Trevon Martin debacle. Zimmerman should have never been charged.
If this thing results in yet another unnecessary, stupid, dog and pony show trial, it will be to temporarily appease the blacks. Local or imported. Then it will be more unrest, along with the accompanying smashing, burning, and looting after he's found not guilty. This is nothing but a stupid, foolish, politically correct, racial merry-go-round that is going nowhere. Just like it has for the last half century or more every time one of these "gentle giants" gets rightly blown away by a cop for his violent actions.
Exactly right.
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Reread the thread Solus, the cop is the victim here.
Exactly right.
I know that Tom. Just taking the opportunity to point out that cops and other citizens should have the same rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of deadly force and be treated legally the same both before and after the event.
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I know that Tom. Just taking the opportunity to point out that cops and other citizens should have the same rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of deadly force and be treated legally the same both before and after the event.
I still don't see your point, this cop isn't getting treated any different than George Zimmerman who also got crucified for shooting an "innocent black youth" who was beating the snot out of him.
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I still don't see your point, this cop isn't getting treated any different than George Zimmerman who also got crucified for shooting an "innocent black youth" who was beating the snot out of him.
That is true. Think of it as "thread drift". Not everyone is treated as correctly as Zimmerman was and not all police officer shootings are as justified as this one....but some still walk.
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If that cop gets charged, every badge in the country should walk off the job. This is total nonsense. Between the Border Patrol and this, law enforcement is hog tied in this country by this Administration. If they won't let them do their jobs, there is no reason for them to be there in the first place.
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holder told ferguson change is coming.... yeah it is, right after you stop acting like animals.
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A local radio station in St. Louis reported on their Facebook page last night that Michael Brown’s partner in crime, Dorian Johnson, has now admitted to police that Michael Brown attacked Officer Wilson and tried to take his gun:
Read more: http://therightscoop.com/report-key-witness-dorian-johnson-now-admits-that-michael-brown-attacked-officer-wilson/#ixzz3AyqTGelO
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C'mon guys really. Let's not let truth or pesky facts get in the way of punishing innocents.
Where is your mob mentality....can you not channel your inner gangster? Sharpton calls.....
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All of that stuff aside, if what is "supposed" to happen tomorrow happens and these protests go national, we're ALL in a HEAP O' SH*T!
They wanna group this in with the NY chokehold death among all the other so-called police brutality deaths and have a NATIONAL protest.
They have already found ISIL shils and planted race-baiter brick throwers in the crowds hiding in small groups of peaceful protesters. It wouldn't take much to start WWIII in the next few days or weeks.
As Michael said today in the DRR podcast, things can escalate to "deadly" in a matter of seconds!
I'm not trying to stir turds, just trying to wake a few folks up!
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It wouldn't take much to start WWIII in the next few days or weeks.
As Michael said today in the DRR podcast, things can escalate to "deadly" in a matter of seconds!
I'm not trying to stir turds, just trying to wake a few folks up!
That's what's going to happen sooner or later. You can bet on it. We are fast heading for a race war in this country. It is no longer the wet dream of some Aryan / Neo Nazi bunch. The media is fast becoming the driving force behind it all. When it happens it will all be the white mans fault for "not understanding", or else "not taking corrective action" for something that has been building for years.
There will be more "calls for peace", and all the rest of the crap. It's like inciting a dog fight, then start screaming animal cruelty when it happens. The more press you give these people, the worse all of this is going to get. If it doesn't happen this time, it's all but guaranteed to happen yet again. The media, along with all of the race baiters will be there when it does, all trying to desperately beat it into a froth once again. (Notice on all of these Ferguson news stories how much they talk, and how little they actually say?) A lot of these people are like "News Carver" in "Butch Cassidy"........"I just love reading my name in the paper, Butch!"
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I don't know that we're in a heap of defecation now...but if we are better now than later.
I do know that my "DEFCON" level is up. Part of what I'm doing is instead of just wearing my everyday carry to the office I am bringing extra mags with me. If violence nationally ramps up and/or there is a whiff of trouble here I will probably truck in with a PS-90 in a briefcase or broken down AR in a backpack and bring that back and forth between the office and truck. If there is true violence erupting I'll just stay home on vacation a few days.
Here in Tulsa the PD has heightened it's awareness in areas most likely affected by outside disturbances and internal dissatisfaction.
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The good news is a good week of rain would send all of these people home faster than any cop with a bullhorn. It's the Midwest in the Summer.
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This administration has been scattering piles of smouldering kindling for a race war since day one.
A race conflict will produce two benefits for BO's plan to take down the US.
1. The conflict itself will weaken the country in multiple ways, socially and economically. Foreign insurgents will find it great cover.
2. If fanned enough, it will provide a perfect excuse for martial law...at least in places of highest tensions, if not nationally.
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I don't know that we're in a heap of defecation now...but if we are better now than later.
I do know that my "DEFCON" level is up. Part of what I'm doing is instead of just wearing my everyday carry to the office I am bringing extra mags with me. If violence nationally ramps up and/or there is a whiff of trouble here I will probably truck in with a PS-90 in a briefcase or broken down AR in a backpack and bring that back and forth between the office and truck. If there is true violence erupting I'll just stay home on vacation a few days.
Here in Tulsa the PD has heightened it's awareness in areas most likely affected by outside disturbances and internal dissatisfaction.
Thats exactly what I'm saying here, Rastus.
The good news is a good week of rain would send all of these people home faster than any cop with a bullhorn. It's the Midwest in the Summer.
billt, the rain WILL quell the locals, but what about the "other" factions?
This administration has been scattering piles of smouldering kindling for a race war since day one.
A race conflict will produce two benefits for BO's plan to take down the US.
1. The conflict itself will weaken the country in multiple ways, socially and economically. Foreign insurgents will find it great cover.
2. If fanned enough, it will provide a perfect excuse for martial law...at least in places of highest tensions, if not nationally.
The martial law part IS what I'm worried about, Solus. It's a perfect excuse for BO to take over and continue this Marxist socialistic behavior he's best known for!
This stuff is the PERFECT situation for this administration to take over and enact martial law, then our guns and preps will not do us any good (unless yours are as well hidden as mine). This situation can be a game-changer for us preppers.
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Thats exactly what I'm saying here, Rastus.
billt, the rain WILL quell the locals, but what about the "other" factions?
The martial law part IS what I'm worried about, Solus. It's a perfect excuse for BO to take over and continue this Marxist socialistic behavior he's best known for!
This stuff is the PERFECT situation for this administration to take over and enact martial law, then our guns and preps will not do us any good (unless yours are as well hidden as mine). This situation can be a game-changer for us preppers.
When will you decide "F*ck this, NO MORE !" What is it going to take ?
Maybe when the Govt says screw the Constitution, we're going to do as we please ?
Oh, I forgot, they already have on Healthcare and more blatantly on illegal immigration.
But the people do nothing but complain and grease their butts for more.
These sheep deserve what they are getting.
Men wouldn't stand for it.
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I already have made that decision, Tom, About 10yrs ago! >:(
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I already have made that decision, Tom, About 10yrs ago! >:(
Didn't mean to PO you personally McGyver, that was pointed at the whole rest of the country in general.
Call it an imperial "you" . ;D
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Didn't mean to PO you personally McGyver, that was pointed at the whole rest of the country in general.
Call it an imperial "ewe" . ;D
Changed for accuracy
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Changed for accuracy
;D
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Much more appropriate. ;D