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Title: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: THE CORONER on March 21, 2009, 11:42:03 PM
These pics are of the new Hi-Point .45acp carbine rifle.  The AR type stock will fit the 9mm and .40acp models as well.  A more tactical appearance that now accommodates not only a scope; but a rail-mounted tactical light, and laser as well.  The laser mount looks better on the rail vs. the muzzle style used now.



Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Big Frank on March 22, 2009, 03:14:59 PM
Is the mullet optional?
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: 1911 Junkie on March 22, 2009, 03:19:31 PM
Is the mullet optional?

It's nicer than that fugly thing he's holding.

Party on!
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 22, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
Is the mullet optional?

Well Rob?  ;D
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: runstowin on March 22, 2009, 11:15:40 PM
From what I have read from actual owners,  Hi Points are cheap, ugly and reliable, I would like to buy one of these carbines if it ever comes out. I bet it will go faster than the LCP.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Ping on March 23, 2009, 09:51:42 AM
I have the 950 in black. Drives tacks all day long and very accurate. For the price you cannot beat it for a more compact rifle. I did suggest it as a home defense weapon but that was not very well received.   :( My wife and boys have a blast shooting it. Was wanting to bump up to a .40 S&W but if they are coming out with a .45 ACP, I will wait.  ;D
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: THE CORONER on March 25, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
I have the 950 in black. Drives tacks all day long and very accurate. For the price you cannot beat it for a more compact rifle. I did suggest it as a home defense weapon but that was not very well received.   :( My wife and boys have a blast shooting it. Was wanting to bump up to a .40 S&W but if they are coming out with a .45 ACP, I will wait.  ;D

I too have the 995 in black.  Also, the .380.  I sold the 9mm to a friend in need; or I would have it as well. 

I bought the carbine for home defense as well.  All my Hi-Point firearms work flawlessly.  Bang, bang, bang, everytime!  For you "nay" sayers out there who think this isn't a practical home defense weapon....  Tell me how a home invader is going to distinguish the laser on my Ruger pistol; from the laser on my tactical Hi-Point Rifle?  That's what carbines were designed for.  Close quarter combat.  The 9mm cartridge must be a sufficient caliber; otherwise all the forum topics I've read concerning it's home defense use are false.

Another benefit, is the ability to also carry a larger caliber pistol for alternative battle scenarios when the tactical rifle is carried at the ready-to-use position.  But let's be realistic for a moment.  When awaken to an intruder, we will probably do well, to find our flashlight in the dark, to use our pistol.  Perhaps you have a laser, and or light mounted on your home defense pistol?  I don't.  I carry my pistols for personal protection, wherever I am.  Legally of course.  While Crimson Trace Laser grips are a must have; a tactical light mounted on a carry-to-conceal pistol is not practical to me because I carry all my pistols.  But a small key chain flashlight is.  So the use of the carbine rifle with a laser/light combo makes perfect sense for home defense.  9mm, other than .22 ammo is the cheapest on the market, that I've found.

And while a 12 gauge shotgun with a laser/light combo would arguably be the ultimate home defense weapon.  It has limitations as well in practical combat situations.  Length of barrel may allow an attacker the opportunity to take the weapon away.  Especially for the women, who, in most battle situations; don't have the upper body strength to maintain it's control, if attempts are made to take it from them.  I know it's not true for all women.  Some, are well trained, and quite capable using one.  But what my wife doesn't seem to realize, is that I may not be able to always be at home to protect her.  Nor will she train with me to hone our home defense skills.  She says I think we live in NYC, or something?  She doesn't understand as we do, that death has no address.  Furthermore; she's not remotely interested in learning how to operate a shotgun.  It's too big and heavy she says.  The carbine is not.  And with a quick safety lesson; she could protect herself in the event I'm unavailable.  But when used in addition to other weaponry; the shotgun is unequaled in it's ability to the end result.

With the 15 rd. capacity magazine, and tactical laser/light combo, I have mounted on my cheap, supposedly unreliable carbine rifle; a would-be invader/attacker will get a free toetag, from The Coroner.  Just my opinion as a Hi-Point firearms owner.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Hazcat on March 25, 2009, 10:02:01 AM
Coroner,

I have the C-9 compact 9mm and it has never failed.  Fed it every type of round I could and it still went bang.  Shoots straight and is reliable.  I have said this before but I always get "it's ugly".  Well it fits my hand real nice, it is inexpensive to buy and shoot, it's made in the USA and it has an UNCONDITIONAL LIFE TIME GUARANTEE.  How many other mfgs back their gun like that?

The only thing that bugs me is why didn't they make the mags interchangeable between handgun and carbine.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2009, 10:06:04 AM
You got a link for the prototype?
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Ping on March 25, 2009, 10:07:18 AM
I stand corrected, mine is a black 995, not 950 as I previously mentioned. Have to put aside the Pabst Blue Ribbon while posting. ;D
I did write a thread about this before. I agree with Coroner about sending someone out in a body bag with it. My wife really enjoys it and it is a hell of a lot cheaper than a HK MP5. Not sure which SWAT Team in California uses it but they do carry it in 40 Smith and Wesson? I have not picked up any of the pistols cause they were cumbersome and bulky. Lifetime warranty also and you cannot beat that! ;)
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Ping on March 25, 2009, 10:08:17 AM
It is made next door from me in Ohio.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Hazcat on March 25, 2009, 10:17:38 AM
It is made next door from me in Ohio.

Well, run over there and ask them about the .45 carbine and report back to us!  ;D
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2009, 10:33:29 AM
I stand corrected, mine is a black 995, not 950 as I previously mentioned. Have to put aside the Pabst Blue Ribbon while posting. ;D
I did write a thread about this before. I agree with Coroner about sending someone out in a body bag with it. My wife really enjoys it and it is a hell of a lot cheaper than a HK MP5. Not sure which SWAT Team in California uses it but they do carry it in 40 Smith and Wesson? I have not picked up any of the pistols cause they were cumbersome and bulky. Lifetime warranty also and you cannot beat that! ;)

PBR at this time of day?
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 25, 2009, 10:44:34 AM
How does this compare with the keltec sub 2000? I spent about 5 mins on guntoker and saw the highpoints at $270-$330. The thing is they use a propitetary 10rd mag. The keltec at $400 uses glock,smith,beretta or sig mags that will be interchangeable with your pistol. Plus you're not dependent on high point being around to make more. This seems like a better deal to me. Personally if I'm going with a carbine, as I plan to, I'm going with something in a rifle caliber as there doesn't seem to be any reason not to. If I were going with a pistol caliber though, I would sure lean towards keltec.
fightingquaker13 Who wants to be seduced with offers of carbines for sale.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2009, 11:08:06 AM
How does this compare with the keltec sub 2000? I spent about 5 mins on guntoker and saw the highpoints at $270-$330. The thing is they use a propitetary 10rd mag. The keltec at $400 uses glock,smith,beretta or sig mags that will be interchangeable with your pistol. Plus you're not dependent on high point being around to make more. This seems like a better deal to me. Personally if I'm going with a carbine, as I plan to, I'm going with something in a rifle caliber as there doesn't seem to be any reason not to. If I were going with a pistol caliber though, I would sure lean towards keltec.
fightingquaker13 Who wants to be seduced with offers of carbines for sale.

The big +1 on the Kel-Tecs is that you can use the 33 rd Glock mags in the 9mm version..... formidable indeed.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Ping on March 25, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
Would if I could Haz but I am on baby duty this week since I am laid off for a couple of weeks.  :'( Ericire12, the post with the PBR was from a couple of days ago.  ;D My buddy is trying to get me to convert to PBR from my Coor's Light. Time's are hard and cannot have my Guinness/Bass Pale ale, Black and Tan's, anymore.  :(
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2009, 11:55:06 AM
I love me some PBR
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 25, 2009, 01:31:51 PM
I love me some PBR
You stand in good company, because as Dennis Hopper will tell you it beats Heiniken (sucks on oxygen tank) and  ;D
fighingquaker13
PS Ping if you're near Richmond, you can always hit Smileys pub on Tuesday, $2 import drafts.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: THE CORONER on March 25, 2009, 03:58:08 PM
How does this compare with the keltec sub 2000? I spent about 5 mins on guntoker and saw the highpoints at $270-$330. The thing is they use a propitetary 10rd mag. The keltec at $400 uses glock,smith,beretta or sig mags that will be interchangeable with your pistol. Plus you're not dependent on high point being around to make more. This seems like a better deal to me. Personally if I'm going with a carbine, as I plan to, I'm going with something in a rifle caliber as there doesn't seem to be any reason not to. If I were going with a pistol caliber though, I would sure lean towards keltec.
fightingquaker13 Who wants to be seduced with offers of carbines for sale.

Quaker, check out this video.  This guy reviews alot.  And is informative and honest.  He's not gonna star in his own gun show soon, but he is getting better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRavtUA9gMs&feature=related
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2009, 04:11:54 PM
PegLeg has a Kel-Tec he could probably tell you about
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 25, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
Quaker, check out this video.  This guy reviews alot.  And is informative and honest.  He's not star in his own gun show soon, but is getting better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRavtUA9gMs&feature=related
You're right coroner. It doesn't look like he's got a career in show biz ahead of him....but.... one of the most helpful reviews I've ever seen/read. The Dude lives. And I all of a sudden feel even better about keltec.
fightingquaker13 who is going to go make himself a caucasion and look forward to the remake of true grit.
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Ping on March 25, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
Thanks fightingquaker and ericire. There was a 15 round magazine that was made after market. Heard there were issue with the spring and causing jams. This is second hand from a co-worker of mine. Wish they would make a decent on or make a 50 round drum for it. That would be kick ass!!! ;D
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: ericire12 on March 27, 2009, 08:19:42 AM
Apparently you can get a collapsible shoulder stock for the Kel Tec now

(http://lundestudio.com/2008SHOTShow/Day4/keltec-su22-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hi-Point .45 carbine prototype
Post by: Imaginos on April 08, 2009, 03:49:58 PM
for the money you can't beat them I have 2 one in 9mm and one in 40S&W both are tack drivers for $200. or less you can't beat them but the original stocks are ugly