The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on November 29, 2009, 09:44:40 AM
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To the great surprise of pollsters and the regret of the government, the Swiss on Sunday said yes to a ban on the construction of minarets.
According to final results, 57.5 per cent of voters and a majority of cantons backed the initiative.
Turnout was high at around 55 per cent.
The result comes as a major surprise and a slap in the face of the government. Opinion polls ahead of the vote had predicted the ban would be rejected by 53 per cent of the electorate.
The proposal on banning minaret construction was championed by rightwing and ultra-conservative groups. The government and most political parties as well as churches and the business community came out strongly against it.
"A majority of the Swiss people and the cantons have adopted the popular initiative against the construction of minarets. The Federal Council respects this decision," a government statement said.
"Consequently the construction of new minarets in Switzerland is no longer permitted. The four existing minarets will remain. It will also be possible to continue to construct mosques."
The statement said freedom of belief would not be affected. "Muslims in Switzerland are able to practise their religion alone or in community with others, and live according to their beliefs just as before."
"Proxy war"
Swiss Justice Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf had argued strongly against a ban on minaret construction.
"The initiative is a kind of 'proxy war'. Its supporters say they are against minarets. But they want to fight what they consider creeping Islamicisation and sharia law," she said ahead of the vote.
Opponents warned that approval of the proposal would fuel Islamic extremism and damage Switzerland's image abroad, particularly in the Muslim world.
Supporters of a ban argued minarets are a symbol of an Islamic claim to power.
"The Islamic religion is intolerant, but we do not want to limit freedom of religion, we want to outlaw the political symbol," said Ulrich Schlüer, a member of the rightwing Swiss People's party and one of the leading promoters of the anti-minaret initiative.
Supporters claimed there is public concern about the growing Muslim community in Switzerland, radical imams, the role of women, as well as head scarves and other dress codes.
Immigrants
The number of Muslim immigrants has increased to about 350,000 (up to 4.5 per cent of the Swiss population) since the 1990s. Most of them came from the former Yugoslavia and Turkey and are considered moderates.
There are an estimated 160 mosques and prayer rooms in Switzerland, mainly in disused factories and warehouses. Only four of them have a minaret, including the mosques in Geneva and Zurich.
In the wake of heated debates at a local level about requests to build more minarets, members of the People's Party and the Federal Democratic Union collected enough signatures to force a nationwide vote.
The campaign in the run-up to the vote was marked by a provocative poster campaign, which was criticised as racist by non-governmental organisations and international bodies.
swissinfo.ch and agencies
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/front/Minaret_ban_approved_by_57_per_cent_of_voters.html?siteSect=105&sid=11554852&rss=true&ty=st&ref=ti_spa
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We should do the same here. But any one who proposed it would be arrested for "hate crime". >:(
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Can't do it here, its a clear 1A violation. Halting immigration muslim countries on the other hand is perfectly legal. ;)
FQ13
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Can't do it here, its a clear 1A violation. Halting immigration muslim countries on the other hand is perfectly legal. ;)
FQ13
BS. Just because the socialists have twisted the 1st Amendment to their anti Christian agenda does not change the reality that the it only refers to establishment of a "State Religion".
I find it telling that "Separation of Church and State is used to prohibit a manger scene in front of City Hall, but does not interfere with the Political activities of supposed "Religious leaders" like Jesse Jackson.
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We should do the same here. But any one who proposed it would be arrested for "hate crime". >:(
Wait for it - it is in the EU after all.
I'm surprised it was "only" 57% against. OTOH, since the were predicting 53% for, I guess that's a decent turn-around.
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BS. Just because the socialists have twisted the 1st Amendment to their anti Christian agenda does not change the reality that the it only refers to establishment of a "State Religion".
I find it telling that "Separation of Church and State is used to prohibit a manger scene in front of City Hall, but does not interfere with the Political activities of supposed "Religious leaders" like Jesse Jackson.
+1 TB. We can't refer to God in God Bless America or Christ in Christmas. BTW press 1 for english.
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This was on 60 Minutes last Spring, the Swiss citizenry are just more vocal about the influx of Muslims becoming Swiss residents.
At least, for now, the Swiss locals can still keep rifles in their homes.
As opposed to the French and Germans, who will just keep welcoming them, and remember the French riots in the Muslim part of town?
Muslim demographics. This should scare the locals (here as well).. Nothing like the facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU