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Title: December 7, 1941
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 07, 2009, 07:52:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s)
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: shooter32 on December 07, 2009, 09:36:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s)

Thanks, m58!!!
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 07, 2009, 09:41:56 AM
I'm getting pissed, and not with you on here I can say that because Tab and FQ haven't signed in yet

I started this at 7:53 this morning, and fifty some minutes later Eric started another with exactly the same tittle.  Out side of one e-mail from a co-worker I have read nothing in our main stream media or heard anything on the airwaves (appologies to tt - I didn't tune in very early this morning, and I could have missed your 90 minute memorial service  ;) ).

That is why I picked the video I did for my first post.  Fifty-Eight years and Pearl Harbor has become a non-issue in our country.  I was well into my teens before I fully realized that Pearl Harbor was a place and not an event.  I still think of the attacks before Hawaii when I hear the name.

I am not angry because no one is posting on either of these threads.  I am angry because those that have "devoted themselves to the responsibility of keeping us enlightened" have decided this is not a day worth remembering any more  >:(

Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: 1911 Junkie on December 07, 2009, 09:50:09 AM
The History Channel has some shows on but even they seem to be lacking.

You know damn well anyone in the MSM could give a crap about what happened today. These are the same people who don't think we should speak about 9/11 either. You know, it just brings up bad memories and might actually make people get all patriotic for a little while.

A day that will live in infamy, until Dancing With the Stars starts again.



Besides, we all know Pearl Harbor was Bush's fault.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: garand4life on December 07, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
It's unspeakable that the main stream media is more interested in the Virgin space liner than the most important event in 20th century for America.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: ericire12 on December 07, 2009, 10:00:37 AM
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g10000/g19930.jpg)
(http://stufffromthelab.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/pearlharbor-topper.jpg)
(http://www.paranormalknowledge.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ussarizona2.jpg)


Never forget!







*I moved my comment into this thread and closed the other one.... This thread never showed up in the "unread posts" section, so I didnt know it was here.
Title: Comment of the day award!
Post by: ericire12 on December 07, 2009, 10:03:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdznv9Q6o9s)

I'm getting pissed, and not with you on here I can say that because Tab and FQ haven't signed in yet

I started this at 7:53 this morning, and fifty some minutes later Eric started another with exactly the same tittle.  Out side of one e-mail from a co-worker I have read nothing in our main stream media or heard anything on the airwaves (appologies to tt - I didn't tune in very early this morning, and I could have missed your 90 minute memorial service  ;) ).

That is why I picked the video I did for my first post.  Fifty-Eight years and Pearl Harbor has become a non-issue in our country.  I was well into my teens before I fully realized that Pearl Harbor was a place and not an event.  I still think of the attacks before Hawaii when I hear the name.

I am not angry because no one is posting on either of these threads.  I am angry because those that have "devoted themselves to the responsibility of keeping us enlightened" have decided this is not a day worth remembering any more  >:(



Comment of the day award!

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/604777/2/istockphoto_604777_miniature_trophy_blank.jpg)













Besides, we all know Pearl Harbor was Bush's fault.
*Runner up

Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: Badgersmilk on December 07, 2009, 10:12:54 AM
It's this simple (in my warped mental world  ;)).

The media in general, better known in whole as the "liberal media", is only following obama's lead.  The less we remember, or think about our history the easier and quicker it's going to be to introduce their new warped and twisted version of a government.  I've even heard a few mention of us going to " a new unrecognizable government" in the press now "As the only feasible outcome to our governments spending spree's and new policies."

There you have it.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: Badgersmilk on December 07, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
FOX news has a little ticker tape running accross the bottom of the screen that IS talking about this.  They mention 2,400 were killed that morning.

Good find on the pic's Eric.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 07, 2009, 10:22:49 AM
My local paper managed to interview some vets the last few days, and today's made top of the fold, front page. Good for them. Still, you would think that given that we are still ass deep in another war started by a Pearl Harbor like attack, that the media would be giving it more play.
FQ13t
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: Timothy on December 07, 2009, 11:15:29 AM
God Bless their souls and WE will never forget....!

My Daddy was on an Aircraft Carrier that day, thank goodness.  USS Wasp, CV-7...On Dec. 7th, she was safely anchored in Grassy Bay, off Bermuda....

I believe she took three torpedoes and sank in mid Sept. '42 after making the trip to the S. Pacific about two weeks after the old man transfered to a destroyer.  They were escorting the troop ships of Marines to Guadalcanal when hit.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: ericire12 on December 07, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
Good find on the pic's Eric.

Here you go....
http://tinyurl.com/yh64ess
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: ericire12 on December 07, 2009, 12:02:33 PM
I just noticed this.... Compare and contrast:

www.google.com

vs

www.bing.com

Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 07, 2009, 12:05:32 PM
Interesting!

Thanks
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 07, 2009, 03:42:50 PM
 I didn't comment earlier because I felt that the these 2 threads did not need any more comment, they summed things up pretty well on their own and leave no room for debate.
As to the silence in the media what do you expect from the enemies propaganda machine.
It's not like they would Glorify America unless they are trying to f-ck us.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 07, 2009, 03:48:51 PM
Here's to the honor, courage, and sacrifice........... may we never forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgthakFtZQY


Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: tt11758 on December 07, 2009, 04:40:49 PM
My local paper managed to interview some vets the last few days, and today's made top of the fold, front page. Good for them. Still, you would think that given that we are still ass deep in another war started by a Pearl Harbor like attack, that the media would be giving it more play.
FQ13t


They're afraid similarities might be be recognizedf and comparisons drawn.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: ericire12 on December 07, 2009, 05:00:15 PM

They're afraid similarities might be be recognizedf and comparisons drawn.

It wont be long till the 9/11 commemorations stop as well.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: Big Frank on December 07, 2009, 05:33:47 PM
When I was a kid Pearl Harbor Day was marked on the calender. Now it's not. I guess we're all supposed to forget and pretend it never happened.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 07, 2009, 05:35:36 PM
When I was a kid Pearl Harbor Day was marked on the calender. Now it's not. I guess we're all supposed to forget and pretend it never happened.

That's a sad thing I've noticed over the years also. More and more significantly important dates are being omitted from standard calendars.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 07, 2009, 05:46:52 PM
 I'm surprised they still list Christmas and Easter, they mark Martin Luther King Day, Martin Luther Kings Birthday, and Kwanza, but not the actual birthdays of Washington and Lincoln.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 07, 2009, 05:48:27 PM
Haven't seen a calendar with Flag Day on it in years.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: 1911 Junkie on December 07, 2009, 06:08:55 PM
ABC Nightly news kindly spent all of 15 seconds on it. WOW! Thanks guys.  >:(
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: CJS3 on December 07, 2009, 08:13:40 PM
Remember Pearl Harbor, or it will happen again and again and again and again.............
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: bulldog75 on December 07, 2009, 11:16:54 PM
Thank you bleeding heart liberals. Kids know how to have sex and how to call children services, use ipods, hack computers, get abortions ,make fake i.ds. and sing the praises of people that did not do a whole hell of alot, but they do not know about the greatest generation and sacrifice.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 08, 2009, 09:30:34 AM
Had to wait until I got back to the office to double check, but my 2009 calendar has Pearl Harbor Day, MLK (observed), President's Day (observed), George Washington and Abraham Lincoln birthdays listed.  However, the 2010 is a PC piece of S***!

I'll be spending some time with a pen filling in info!
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: Timothy on December 08, 2009, 09:44:17 AM
Mine has the following for December;

Pearl Harbor Day
Immaculata Concepcion (Mexico)
Hanukkah (Miami)  :D
Bill of Rights Day
Pilgrims Landed
Christmas
Boxing Day (Canada)
Kwanzaa (Harlem/Watts/Detroit)  :D

Got their PC asses covered.....ABCO Welding Supply...
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 08, 2009, 10:24:50 AM
I need someone with a Dillon C'lendar to speak up ... Maybe that would be a good one  ;D
Title: What a shame
Post by: ericire12 on December 08, 2009, 01:03:35 PM
I just noticed this.... Compare and contrast:

www.google.com

vs

www.bing.com



So.... Google wont recognize a real historic day, but they will recognize this one???

www.google.com
(http://www.google.com/logos/ecsegar09.gif)
E.C Segar's Birthday
Title: Re: What a shame
Post by: tt11758 on December 08, 2009, 01:45:09 PM
So.... Google wont recognize a real historic day, but they will recognize this one???

www.google.com
(http://www.google.com/logos/ecsegar09.gif)
E.C Segar's Birthday


Surely that doesn't really surprise you, does it Eric?
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: ericire12 on December 08, 2009, 02:44:20 PM

Surely that doesn't really surprise you, does it Eric?

Surprise? No. Pisses me off.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: bulldog75 on December 08, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
I have been to the USS Arizona memorial and it was a humbling experience. The Tomb of The Unknown Soldier was one of the most humbling. Sorry a loss of words. You cannot really explain these places, you have to visit them and then you will understand. Being a soldier and having the honor to walk among real heros makes me feel proud and yet really small. I consider myself lucky to only paid the price of 16 years and a couple of years away from my family.
Those pictures make me think of my uncle Bill who passed in 2005. He served with Patton in WW2 and to imagine the sacrifice and hardships he went through. On Dec the 8th he went down and enlisted in the army.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 08, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
I have been to the USS Arizona memorial and it was a humbling experience. The Tomb of The Unknown Soldier was one of the most humbling. Sorry a loss of words. You cannot really explain these places, you have to visit them and then you will understand. Being a soldier and having the honor to walk among real heros makes me feel proud and yet really small. I consider myself lucky to only paid the price of 16 years and a couple of years away from my family.
Those pictures make me think of my uncle Bill who passed in 2005. He served with Patton in WW2 and to imagine the sacrifice and hardships he went through. On Dec the 8th he went down and enlisted in the army.


One word, Arlington.
Title: Re: December 7, 1941
Post by: bulldog75 on December 08, 2009, 10:52:27 PM
Been there and I have seen the cassions. I even got my kids in to see the six white horses on Ft. Meyers. They loved it. It sends shivers up your spine.