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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on December 08, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
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I'm starting this over here to avoid the rath of RP, but I still would like to keep it a clean and respectful I know, stupid expectations around here comparison.
I am a Benelli fan, and already own a couple that I love. However, I'm looking for a pump for Ironman. I have a Winchester 1300, but to shorten the barrel and set it up would cost as much as a new gun. My down sides on the Benelli is the lack of aftermarket for items. Remington has an aftermarket following that is very complete.
I want reliable and fun to shoot. Something my M1 and M2 have given me, but I have no experience with either a Nova or an 870. Pricing on the two are very similar, so that is a non-issue.
Special note to big tt ... I forgot one, so numbers ain't going to be an issue ... except my own addictions ;)
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I would get the Remington. Why? You answered that. Pick and accessory and a gun gear retailer and THEY DO HAVE IT for the Remington 870. That's the big reason that my next pump shotgun will be a Remington 870. Benelli M1, I have no clue where to get accessories for those. I'd pick the 870. Accessories are gonna be cheaper and more readily available. ;D
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Remington 870. Why? Never gives me problems, and it feel durable enough to drive railroad spikes if you needed it to. Go get you one with an extended tube and bayonet lug. ;)
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I have a Nova, but I dont like the way it fits me..... Length of pull is just too long for me. The slide also has a weird rattle that I have never figured out a way to get rid of. It is a shooter, however. I have never had a single problem with it. Its very well made, and I think it would stand up to a good amount of torture if you feel the need to dish it out.
You said you are looking at a shorter barrel for it, so you might want to look at that before you buy. Most all Novas and Super Novas come with longer barrels, and the shorter replacement barrels are really pricey.
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I have a Nova, but I dont like the way it fits me..... Length of pull is just too long for me. The slide also has a weird rattle that I have never figured out a way to get rid of. It is a shooter, however. I have never had a single problem with it. Its very well made, and I think it would stand up to a good amount of torture if you feel the need to dish it out.
You said you are looking at a shorter barrel for it, so you might want to look at that before you buy. Most all Novas and Super Novas come with longer barrels, and the shorter replacement barrels are really pricey.
The Super Nova set up in tactical is 18" as is the tactical Remington.
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870, accessories and price of them.
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I luvs my 870!! ;D
btw, how the hell do you FORGET one?!? You're the youngster of the two of us!!! ;D
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870 or Mossberg 500, and I favor the Mossy.
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870 has a excellent track record, but mossberg was the only one to pass the milspec test. Both are classic workhorses I own two of each and could not be happier.
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Why not the Mossberg 590? Marine issue for years, and its built like a tank. For me the two things it has and the 870 doesn't are a set of excellent ghost ring sights if you want to throw a slug, and it has a top mounted safety. This is a bigger deal for me as a lefty, but besides that, it is still a lot quicker and more instinctive to move your thumb up than poke around on the trigger guard. You also have Gods own amount of extra barells and do-dads available, and its at a comparable price.
FQ13
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Why not the Mossberg 590? Marine issue for years, and its built like a tank. For me the two things it has and the 870 doesn't are a set of excellent ghost ring sights if you want to throw a slug, and it has a top mounted safety. This is a bigger deal for me as a lefty, but besides that, it is still a lot quicker and more instinctive to move your thumb up than poke around on the trigger guard. You also have Gods own amount of extra barells and do-dads available, and its at a comparable price.
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The do make a 870 with mounted sights and a sight rail, see Cabela's ad. Also, the top mounted safety is stupid. Why? Because I said so. Learn to be right handed like you're supposed to be!
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Learn to be right handed like you're supposed to be!
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Amen
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Having both, I have no biased opinion. The 870 just happens to be a perfect length of pull for me personally, it's lighter in weight, thus handles easier. Remington camoflage coatings are light years better in quality than those Benelli uses, and yes, if you wanna crap it all up, there are hundreds more accesories. Are you an AR guy and hooked on trinkets and gizmo's? Then the Remington is the shoty for you hands down.
If I had the choice of only one. NO QUESTION! BENELLI!
Why? Build quality! Build quality! Build quality! NO comparison. Even with the wingmaster. Remington fit, finnish, engineering, material (other than for-mentioned camo coating that's done here in the USA) of the SuperNova BLOW AWAY an 870. Pick a SuperNova up. Cycle the action. NO COMPARISON! It's like comparing a fine hand crafted Ferrari to a Ford Pinto. SuperNova has a chrome lined chamber and barrel. The bolt locking mechanism has a dual rotating locking lug design. There is a button on the bottom of the forearm that allows you to eject the shell in the chamber without loading another round from the magazine. All surfaces are corrosion proof. YOU CAN LOAD IT WITHOUT IT TRYING TO CUT YOUR THUMB! Many people claim "their 870 doesn't do this." Give me a break. Their all the same. Fact is, by anyone's measure, the Benelli loads smoother. Trigger pull is a much better 2 stage (not target grade by any means, but better). QUALITY extractor claws.
I say just go pick up a SuperNova and an 870. Tell me you don't laugh at the Remington!
I just put the rail on mine 2 days ago. Still trying to find the right red dot, or scope.
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If your not planning on shooting from a sitting position (mine's occasionally used for Turkey), I'd recommend against the pistol grip stock. You need a socket set to field strip a Benelli with this stock (dumb). The regular stock has additional measures for recoil reduction the pistol grip stock doesn't have as well.
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In the competition shooting world, shotgun portions of the competition are generally reloading contests. Whomever can reload faster is gonna win. I'd recommend the Benelli. It has a huge load gate area, almost twice as large as the 870. It's much easier to reload faster and more efficiently with the Benelli.
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