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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on December 09, 2009, 10:27:49 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/05brfs-UNIVERSITYVO_BRF.html?_r=1
The Board of Governors at Colorado State University voted 7 to 0 to ban guns from its campuses in Fort Collins and Pueblo, a decision that pitted faculty members against students demanding to exercise their right to carry guns. Guns had been banned at the University of Colorado, but Colorado State had followed a state law that allows a person to carry a concealed weapon as long he or she has a permit. Neighboring Utah allows concealed weapons on state property, and a court has ruled that colleges are not excepted. A Colorado faculty group said the ban would make the campuses safer, but a student, Brady Allen, 25, told the board that fear of an accidental discharge from a concealed weapon was not a good reason to ban guns. “You might as well ban everything that has a potential risk — cars, alcohol and sports,” said Mr. Allen, a history student and a former Marine. Gun rights advocates say campus bans make students vulnerable to attacks. In 2007, a gunman at Virginia Tech killed 32 people and wounded 23 before killing himself. The university board’s vote instructs the presidents of both campuses to submit a weapons plan by February.
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Idiots! I am uncomfortable allowing them in undergrad dorms, but otherwise it should be treated like any other public place. This is doubly true since its a state school. A private school can set its own rules, but a government school should have to follow the law.
FQ13
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Idiots! I am uncomfortable allowing them in undergrad dorms, but otherwise it should be treated like any other public place. This is doubly true since its a state school. A private school can set its own rules, but a government school should have to follow the law.
FQ13
You're forgetting who the government consists of. >:( They will fully support CSU's decision here.
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Can the Board over rule a State law?
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Can the Board over rule a State law?
Of course they can Haz. "It's for the children." When I was in school, we had hunters safety and shooting classes. IN SCHOOL! Kids were taught how to be safe, and how to use a weapon. I remember shooting air guns in the basement gym. A lot of things have changed. Zero tolerance has become an excuse for Zero INTELLIGENCE.
I'm going to stop there. I feel my blood pressure going up...... >:(
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Being a STATE university shouldn't the state have the ultimate say so? CSU and University of Colorado are operated by people who openly despise the constitution. Colorado is no friend of the 2nd but at least they make some attempt to uphold the law as written.
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Publicly funded entities are just like cities and towns, they must abide by the laws of the financing authority.
By the same token, a PRO gun school could not legally ALLOW CCW in a non CCW state.
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I knew CU passed this, but was kind of surprised CSU did. >:(
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We've been looking at other states to escape to and we keep getting told that Colorado is becoming more liberal, or "purple". Is this true?
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We've been looking at other states to escape to and we keep getting told that Colorado is becoming more liberal, or "purple". Is this true?
Actually, I'm going to rely on a student, who did one Hell of a job on his senior thesis here. Normally, I am not a fan of ststistial analysis in my field, where the answer is alwas 47, but this kid was damn sharp and called the '08 election in '06. He looked at the rate of you people (Kalifornians) moving into Co., Hispanic migration, the increase in the youth vote as percentage since 2000, and the uptick in latino voting rates and basically called Co. marginally Democratic after a county by county level analysis based on census data and ten years of election returns. A great job by a twenty year old kid and I ain't going to argue.
FQ13
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Publicly funded entities are just like cities and towns, they must abide by the laws of the financing authority.
By the same token, a PRO gun school could not legally ALLOW CCW in a non CCW state.
beleave it or not, most states have laws saying basicly "state agencys don't have to fallow state laws" its the same with the federal goverment.
I know when I was working as a industrail painter, we used products that were illegal. That was work for both the state and a private company that was doing remodels to federal buildings. If I were to use those products now, I would be shut down, fined well into the 6 digets, I'd lose my gross polluter statis, my CL and most likly never be able to get them back.
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Actually, I'm going to rely on a student, who did one Hell of a job on his senior thesis here. Normally, I am not a fan of ststistial analysis in my field, where the answer is alwas 47, but this kid was damn sharp and called the '08 election in '06. He looked at the rate of you people (Kalifornians) moving into Co., Hispanic migration, the increase in the youth vote as percentage since 2000, and the uptick in latino voting rates and basically called Co. marginally Democratic after a county by county level analysis based on census data and ten years of election returns. A great job by a twenty year old kid and I ain't going to argue.
FQ13
Is that like the Hitchhiker's Guide number that 42 is the answer to everything?
I agree that most Kalifornians moving elsewhere can start to add blue to the mix, but I'd be reddening anyplace that I go. I think a lot of us that are leaving are a little more red. The way the voting districts are here, we just can't get things changed. California is officially the example of how the left doesn't work. Kind of like Russia being proof that communism didn't work.
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I've been following this closely, as CSU is local. What I CAN'T find is where this came from. That is, who's idea was it to make this change? Who noticed CSU was different than the rest of the CO colleges and brought it up at a board meeting? There wasn't an incident that brought it up. My guess is there's a anti-gunner who checks school rules all over the country to see what the gun reg is, and notifies the board.
As a little reported note: the CSU student board wrote to the board asking them not to change the rule.