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Title: Silenced Revolver
Post by: Big Frank on December 10, 2009, 11:37:47 PM
I always wondered how good this would work with the Nagant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0&NR=1
Title: Re: Silenced Revolver
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 10, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
Does this work? I have owned a New England Arms 9 shot, break barrel .22. It was solid, but the most unpleasant pistol I've owned. The hyper sonic crack was beyond awful, I would rather have fired a .38 or 9mm than that thing. I no longer own it and am glad. Questions are:
1) does this require a subsonic round?
2) will all revolvers seal the chamber as the Nagant seems to?
Its a cool concept, but I could use more info.
FQ13
Title: Re: Silenced Revolver
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 11, 2009, 01:02:07 AM
Does this work? I have owned a New England Arms 9 shot, break barrel .22. It was solid, but the most unpleasant pistol I've owned. The hyper sonic crack was beyond awful, I would rather have fired a .38 or 9mm than that thing. I no longer own it and am glad. Questions are:
1) does this require a subsonic round?
2) will all revolvers seal the chamber as the Nagant seems to?
Its a cool concept, but I could use more info.
FQ13

The video does not show him using a mallet and dowel to pound the cases out of the cylinder.
As far as I know the Nagant was the only revolver to use the sealed breach design, the cartridge designed for it used a bullet seated below the case mouth, when the trigger was pulled the cylinder moved forward  pressing the cylinder face against the end of the barrel, and the end of the casing INTO the barrel sealing the cylinder gap. The draw backs were that while they are known for accuracy and decent triggers, the  7.62 X 38R Nagant cartridge was badly under powered.
Secondly the design of the cartridge from what I have heard was usually a SOB to eject through the loading gate because of the way the case mouth expanded on firing.
The ones being sold now can be purchased with a spare cylinder in .32 that seems to retain the accuracy while being much easier to reload.
How that effects it's use with a suppressor I don't know but it is probably much less effective with out the cartridge seal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagant_M1895

I need to add that,  Yes, the cartridge is only .01 shorter than the AK round , BUT that is with the bullet completely inside the case and a narrower to that extended into the barrel, powder capacity is nowhere close to comparable.