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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on December 11, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
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http://www.ammoland.com/2009/12/11/sex-and-guns/
United States --(AmmoLand.com)- When abstinence is floated as a way to keep teenagers from having unwanted pregnancies the left is openly scornful of the idea. Liberals claim that sex-education and familiarity with contraception are the only viable ways to teach teenagers to practice safe sex.
They argue that kids are going to have sex so it is important to teach them how to avoid the pitfalls involved with irresponsible behavior.
Liberals preach education as the answer for a host of other social ills as well, including discrimination, sexism and environmental issues.
Funny, however, that the only problem liberals refuse to attack with so-called education are accidental gun deaths among children. When it comes to guns, liberals and anti-gun groups, are unwilling to discuss how educating children can lead to a decrease in these very type of accidents.
Several times in the recent past, Ohio has considered a bill that would offer gun safety training as part of the high school curriculum. While pro-gun groups are quick to praise such a move as a way to decrease gun accidents through education, anti-gun leftists are already using their tired propaganda in opposition of the bill.
They claim that teaching gun-safety in schools will push a pro-gun culture on unsuspecting students. Yet, at the same time liberals claim that teaching sex-education with mentioning abstinence won’t teach a culture of promiscuity among high-school students.
The question at hand isn’t whether people agree with how sex-education is being taught in schools. It is simply a useful example of how the liberal anti-gun movement continues to fight their losing battle against guns with blinders on, completely unaware that they are becoming a political laughing-stock.
Pro-gun advocates have for years claimed that groups like the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence are not interested in pushing gun-safety and decreasing gun accidents, but instead have only one goal–total gun confiscation.
Their decision to oppose a current proposal to teach gun-safety in high schools proves that pro-gun advocates are correct.
Liberal anti-gun groups, and their cohorts in the establishment media, are blinded by an emotional hatred of guns to such an extent that they would oppose a program designed to achieve their claimed goal of making kids safer. They won’t admit that if gun accidents are reduced it takes away their biggest public relations bonanza.
The liberal anti-gun reaction to such programs is actually a public relations win for the pro-gun movement because the American public is smart enough to see that anyone who truly wants a decrease in accidental gun deaths should support teaching gun-safety in schools.
Only the help of the establishment media keeps the anti-gun movement afloat by giving credence to the otherwise discredited studies and statistics bandied about by groups determined to confiscate guns. The establishment media also fails to point out the hypocrisy of how liberals recommend sex-education as a way to stop teen pregnancy, but refuse to accept gun-safety education as a way to stop teens from accidentally shooting each other.
The anti-gun movement has seen its power and credibility wane as gun-control laws have failed to bring about a violence free nirvana as promised. Legal concealed-carry put more guns on the street without a corresponding increase in crime which further damaged the argument that guns are at the root of crime. Now, in desperation they steadfastly refuse to accept that properly educating children about gun-safety is just another example of how far they will go. They are quick to exploit a tragic gun accident, but refuse to educate to prevent them.
They are terrified because they know that as people become educated about guns, and the gun issue, it will further expose their duplicity. A great example is how the anti-gunners use the absurd assertion that the definition of children includes anyone to the age of 25 when it comes to statistics on gun deaths, including suicides. But they are unwilling to care for children when it would really matter due to the fact that it would hurt their message.
Gun-safety programs in schools will save lives, and to steal a line from the anti-gun movement, if only one life is saved by such a program they are worth implementing.
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I've been saying this for years, If the objective were safety they would have MANDATORY fire arms training in schools. But the objective is NOT safety, it is to turn Americans into obedient dependent sheep through the brainwashing and indoctrination of children.
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I've been saying this for years, If the objective were safety they would have MANDATORY fire arms training in schools. But the objective is NOT safety, it is to turn Americans into obedient dependent sheep through the brainwashing and indoctrination of children.
The goal for any and all politicians is control and dependency
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I stand with the Nuge on this one. Sex, guns and rock and roll. All good things in the proper context and if done safely (kareoke, not safe ;)). We used to have a required course in tenth grade called "life management skills". Sounds like BS, but it was a good idea. It was like a combo of home ec., shop, financial skills, nutrition and sex ed and drug prevention. A good idea that probably got someone fired for using their brain in the public school system. Adding a week of marksmanship and gun safety would have fit in fine.
FQ13
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I have talked to instructors from many parts of the country, and everyone from larger cities say the same thing - "We have lots of girls taking the class, because for babysitting firearm safety looks as good as cpr." Parents want to know that if their children either find a gun in the house, or a visitor brings a gun into the house the sitter knows what to do.
I add to this that I want to take the mystery out of guns. I have a wide variety, and the students get to handle everyone of them, and we try to let them shoot some ... within reason. I'm not going to have a bunch of 12 year olds shooting the 500 or a 300 wsm, but there is no reason they can't shoot the 1911 in .22lr, the .22 revolvers, an ar-15 (in either .223 or .22lr), or a .17hmr. When kids finish our class they understand safety, and mystery has been replaced by "been there done that."
Maybe we should take the same stance on guns as some do on sex, and we can start handing out free ammo in the school hallways ;)
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I have talked to instructors from many parts of the country, and everyone from larger cities say the same thing - "We have lots of girls taking the class, because for babysitting firearm safety looks as good as cpr." Parents want to know that if their children either find a gun in the house, or a visitor brings a gun into the house the sitter knows what to do.
I add to this that I want to take the mystery out of guns. I have a wide variety, and the students get to handle everyone of them, and we try to let them shoot some ... within reason. I'm not going to have a bunch of 12 year olds shooting the 500 or a 300 wsm, but there is no reason they can't shoot the 1911 in .22lr, the .22 revolvers, an ar-15 (in either .223 or .22lr), or a .17hmr. When kids finish our class they understand safety, and mystery has been replaced by "been there done that."
Maybe we should take the same stance on guns as some do on sex, and we can start handing out free ammo in the school hallways ;)
I'd go back to school for free ammo ;D
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I'd go back to school for free ammo ;D
I was in my 30's before I got to college. One day they were handing out condoms. I was presented with a few as I passed by a cute little blonde, and that is where the trouble started. A thirty something guy that has spent too many years with the guys and in bars and no need for slip covers should not be allowed to make comments to a 19 year old little blonde in a setting like that ... All I asked was "and what do you think I should do with these?" I was somewhere between the next wastebasket and water balloons in the parking lot ... her shades of red indicated she was thinking something else ;D But, she never answered me ::)
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The goal for any and all politicians is control and dependency
I disagree, their goal is job security plain and simple. That is way there are so many contradicting laws. There only agenda is election or re-election not betterment of country, citizens, environment, health care, National dept. and ect. ect. They just do not give a krap pass the paycheck. Honestly I do not blame them. Bring to mind the fable of the Frog and Scorpion: " you killed us both Mr.Scorpion! Well what did you expect, I am a scorpion Mr.Frog."
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There is no such thing as a "good" or "Bad" form of government. The strictest Dictatorship can provide good government if an intelligent dictator is concerned solely with the good of the nation, on the flip side of that, we are seeing what happens in a Republic when the elected leaders focus only on their own self interest.