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Title: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: twyacht on December 14, 2009, 06:29:42 PM
Primarily why I don't have an account at either site. "Big Brother" can just monitor me right here amongst all of us "armed & dangerous" folk... ;)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/12/14/government-monitoring-facebook-twitter

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/TheGovernmentIsMonitoringFacebookAn.jpg)

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Here's a bit of the flagrant hypocrisy in the article about half way down....

"On the other hand, it will be interesting to see how Obama-loving media follow this story.

After all, the press were constantly bashing the Bush White House concerning electronic surveillance designed to protect the nation from terrorist attacks.

The Times might be pleased with itself by publishing an editorial on this subject in its opinion section, but under the previous administration, this would have resulted in a front page story with thousands of words.


I'm way down the list, I'm sure,...... :-X

Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: ericire12 on December 14, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
It wont be in the opinion section..... it would get too much attention there.... Probably in the lifestyles section or the technology section.... but dont expect it to be a hard hitting expose.... Investigative journalism is dead...... RIP
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: Timothy on December 14, 2009, 06:48:28 PM
Yea, I closed my account after I deleted everything pertaining to personal information.  I know it's not a permenant deletion as any and everything ever on the internet is there for the rest of eternity.

They were getting way to invasive with my personal email and constantly trying to get you to accept all the invites from other facebookers to propagate their little scams for advertising and such.  I joined to find an old buddy from a lifetime ago, we reconnected and have gone private.  No need for the rest of the blather that Facebook has to offer, maybe if I was twelve again it would be interesting!

There are a bunch of DRTV members on there, maybe they should all consider the ramifications of all that information on a public forum.  It's bad enough that we're all right wing extremists who happen to practice a right guarenteed by the U.S. Constitution, now we have to worry about all the black copters hovering over Bogans house too!

 ;D
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: r_w on December 14, 2009, 07:06:38 PM
Facebook, Twitter, forums, etc. are all PUBLIC FREE SPEECH!!!  Anyone can read it, including big brother.  Anyone stupid enough to post a video of themselves breaking the law shouldn't be surprised when it shows up as evidence. 

There is a reason many meetings still happen face-to-face, whether legal or illegal business.

Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: shooter32 on December 14, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
Glad big brother would never look here.  :o

I'm already next in line, right after Tom and his rope!  ;D
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: Timothy on December 14, 2009, 07:20:52 PM
I heard (not confirmed) this morning that universities and colleges are reviewing youtube for videos of applicants and making decisions based on what they're finding.  Kinda glad that we didn't have cameras when I was a kid, the transistor radio and the 8-track were good enough for me!

Employers are googling applicants, the government is watching social forums and colleges are concerned about someone stupid enough to light a bottle rocket from their asscrack.

What IS the world coming to?
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: shooter32 on December 14, 2009, 07:24:47 PM
What IS the world coming to?

It's not good. >:(
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: r_w on December 14, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
What IS the world coming to?

Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"?
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: TexGun on December 14, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
Its not about what IT'S COMING to...It's already here. >:(
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: ericire12 on December 14, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"? Animal Farm

 ;)
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: jaybet on December 15, 2009, 07:04:44 AM
Y'think?
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: philw on December 15, 2009, 07:29:25 AM
just like the filtering they want to do with the Net here 


bugger them i say   if they look at my net history  and what I do  they will think I am a terrorist anyway   

I say   all these "Nanny Police State" people need to GAGF   we need to live our lives and make our choices   /Rant   
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: SwoopSJ on December 15, 2009, 01:00:32 PM
There are a bunch of DRTV members on there, maybe they should all consider the ramifications of all that information on a public forum. 

I have a Facebook account and have no fears whatsoever about using it.  I have absolutely nothing to hide and the only information that can be gleaned from my info/postings on FB are that I am a Christian, Republican, and my entertainment preferences.  If the gubment wants to spend our tax dollars to "discover" what I'll freely divulge, let 'em.  In my opinion, the only people with legitimate fears concerning this subject, are those with something to hide.  If you fall into that category you a) shouldn't be participating on this site either and b) are going to be found out anyway... black choppers and such.

Swoop
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: Timothy on December 15, 2009, 01:51:07 PM
Shane,

Most of my gripe with Facebook is when they try and attach my mailbox to their applications.  Other than that, it's relatively harmless for the most part.  I'm not worried about my past, present or future dealings with the Governemt, I've held a Top Secret military clearance and several lesser clearances working for a defense contractor.  If they want me, they know where to look...if they don't like what they find, they can bite me!

The internet has and will be used in the future to invade our privacy, I expect it will get worse before it gets better.

Didn't mean to offend anyone... ;)

Tim

Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 15, 2009, 02:56:20 PM
I have a Facebook account and have no fears whatsoever about using it.  I have absolutely nothing to hide and the only information that can be gleaned from my info/postings on FB are that I am a Christian, Republican, and my entertainment preferences.  If the gubment wants to spend our tax dollars to "discover" what I'll freely divulge, let 'em.  In my opinion, the only people with legitimate fears concerning this subject, are those with something to hide.  If you fall into that category you a) shouldn't be participating on this site either and b) are going to be found out anyway... black choppers and such.

Swoop


Your in deeper do do than I am, I just want to hang the entire Government, but YOU, You're one of those Christians.
Your probably in their "favorites" list.
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: ellis4538 on December 15, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
I refuse to use either for obvious reasons!  I am sure he probably has a close watch on us here also!

Richard

PS:  I know my USPS delivery person knows me by "Oh yea, you are the guy that gets all those gun magazines!"
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: TAB on December 15, 2009, 04:53:15 PM
only a fool would post something on the internet that you would not want the entire world to see. 

As a employer you can bet I'm going to google a persepective employee.  lets just take a random person...

Me   there is 11.1 millon hits for just my name.   Now none on the 1st page are me, but when I add in my location and my DOB, lots of things come up.  Many I wish didn't.( mainly my home address, but thats required by law do to my CL).  In just the 1st few pages, there are results from when I placed at state in freestyle and greco, a artical written up about one of my jobs, a news paper artical when I was a kid and we were rear ended buy a drunk driver.  For the most part, you can find just about every thing you wanted to know about me in a very short period of time.
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: alfsauve on December 15, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
I take a different approach than many.  Rather than keeping a low profile, I keep a high one.  You can find out all the public information you want about me....here....FB....LinkIn....Yahoo.     I think the more public "we" are the more that becomes the norm, rather than we're the hermits or the recluses and in the perceived minority.   The more of "us" on FB/Twitter/etc.  the harder it is for agency's to keep track.   Volume, sort of a denial of service, will overwhelm them.

There are no real terrorists on the Homeland Security watch list.   If they put a real terrorist name on that list, then the terrorist would know they were being watched.  So no agency will list "real" terrorists.   I have a theory that to prevent real terrorists from knowing they're being watched, they expedite any government dealings with them so as not to arose suspicion.


Hmm...My passport application went through in 10 days over the Thanksgiving holidays.  That's from the day I gave the postmaster my application until USPS delivered the passports.   Hmmmmmm......wonder why such good treatment?

Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: Timothy on December 15, 2009, 06:13:11 PM
I just googled myself and only one hit in ten pages was actually me.  My Navy Alumni site member listing.  I'm too old to have too much electronic informatin specific to my background.  I did most of my stupid juvenile stuff BEFORE V.P. Gore invented the internet.

About 1984 my life became rather boring when I got married and in 1985 I became rather respectable because my little girl was born.  A lot changes when you have someone looking into your eyes that makes your heart skip a beat because you love them so much........ :-*
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 15, 2009, 08:40:24 PM
On google all I found that was Me was this Forum, a newsletter I have written to a couple times and 2 letters I've sent to John Keegan and Anderson Cooper.
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: TAB on December 15, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
On google all I found that was Me was this Forum, a newsletter I have written to a couple times and 2 letters I've sent to John Keegan and Anderson Cooper.


all I could find about you was this














(http://doubleawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ass-hole-get-it.jpg)



 :D
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 15, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
Remember that public conversations aren't private ...

http://www.startribune.com/local/79361082.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU (http://www.startribune.com/local/79361082.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU)

This ain't gonna look good on her permanent record  :-\
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 15, 2009, 11:27:31 PM
TAB.....gotta give you that one.....   ;D

Sorry, Tom, but that was funny....made me laugh plum out loud....   ;)


......and now back to the black choppers......  :-\





Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: SwoopSJ on December 16, 2009, 12:13:25 AM
Didn't mean to offend anyone... ;)
No offense taken whatsoever, and even if I was offended there are no apologies needed nor expected.  If my reply seemed cross, it was not intentional, I was just throwing my two hundredths of a dollar into the mix.  (Although it's not even worth that.   :) )  As others have already said, it's easy enough for anyone to find information about me, so I really don't worry about what's floating around out there.  I would think time was up, long ago, regarding anything I could be prosecuted for and if stupidity were a crime I'd already be in jail... with no hope of parole.

Swoop
   
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 16, 2009, 12:47:12 AM
TAB.....gotta give you that one.....   ;D

Sorry, Tom, but that was funny....made me laugh plum out loud....   ;)


......and now back to the black choppers......  :-\


I don't know why TAB feels so smug, I'm not the one still in Ca.     (_E=mc2_)
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 16, 2009, 12:50:21 AM
I don't know why TAB feels so smug, I'm not the one still in Ca.     (_E=mc2_)

Coulda been a self-portrait then?    ;D
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: TAB on December 16, 2009, 12:55:25 AM
I don't know why TAB feels so smug, I'm not the one still in Ca.     (_E=mc2_)


e=mc....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjDr8KKtsE


yeah, yeah, I'm on the way to the corner.
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 16, 2009, 01:04:46 AM
(_*_) =  Ass
(_E=mc2_) = smart ass
But you have become a
(_?_) = dumb ass      
                                                         ;D    ;D

They don't have one for a trapped ass though, so the donkey is bumming.
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: Timothy on December 16, 2009, 06:18:23 AM
Coulda been a self-portrait then?    ;D

TAB's secret hidden bunker maybe?

 :)
Title: Re: Use Facebook Or Twitter? Big Brother Is Watching You.
Post by: shooter32 on December 16, 2009, 10:05:08 AM
TAB.....gotta give you that one.....   ;D

Sorry, Tom, but that was funny....made me laugh plum out loud....   ;)


......and now back to the black choppers......  :-\






+1    ;D   That pic is a keeper.