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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Badgersmilk on December 16, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
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Not a poll on what do you WANT to happen, but what do you THINK will happen.
Don't forget there may be a little dishonesty involved. You probably didn't vote for him last time.
If you live in Michigan you'd better vote option 1! (look what's been going on around you!).
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With the way things are going and our government ramming devastating legislation down our throats. I will be surprised if we don't start seeing riots before the mid terms. Just isolated at first. But.... If we continue down this path, there will be only one way to reverse it. The same way we did it in 1776.
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I'm torn between continuing like we have historically, and it will be a tight race between the BHO zombies, and who ever the other sides put up. BHO's best hope is that it is him against two others, and we will split our vote giving him a second term with a minority vote.
The other side follows JC's scenerio of unrest. If past thoughts that all will be low key until after the 2010 elections, and then they will hit full force with their change and no hope agenda, we will see civil unrest. Civil unrest will lead to shutting us down and out, and the beginning of a dictatorship ... for our own good >:(
I am going to try and remain cautiously optomistic ... very vigilant, but optomistic. There are too many tools at his disposal, and his continuing afair with the blue helmet crew lead me to be wary of what he could pull on us if we don't fight.
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If he can't steal it he'll cancel it.
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If he can't steal it he'll cancel it.
I know that there are ways, but what are the exact "legal" ways he could suspend an election or nulify the outcome?
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Martial law, or have the Justice Dept. file disqualifying charges against the winner.
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Martial law is what I was leaning toward in my first response, but fear the Justice Dept. action more! They can pull that at anytime on anyone.
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Even today if you label any of us as a "Terrorist" you loose ALL rights until proven innocent. With no promise of a trial EVER you can be jailed as long as they see fit. That's one sure fire easy way to eliminate competition. And it's what I'm afraid would happen to anyone rioting, or even organizing rally's against the big man as time passes and the people have less and less control.
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This country has too many "Entitlement HO's" who need Obama to keep their checks coming.
More folks get checks from various governments than actually work producing something of value. Those folks will vote for Obama en mass, insuring his re election. >:(
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One good thing about revolution. Darwin takes care of the leaches.
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A good candidate running against BHO will beat him easily, but if we get a RINO like last time he will be there for another term.
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A good candidate running against BHO will beat him easily, but if we get a RINO like last time he will be there for another term.
Spot on!!!
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Gov. Bobby Jinal?
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Col. West ?
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Col. West ?
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If you can find it, you need to read General Petraus' foreward/intro in the counter-insurgency manual (FM3-24). It fits OUR political system today--Dems/progressives are the insurgents that just got into power, RINO's are the old warlord faction now pushed out of power. Little people still lose.
The plan for success is clearly laid out, too. The problem is that COIN requires PERFECTION to work, or at least a lot closer to perfect than most are able to achieve.
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If you can find it, you need to read General Petraus' foreward/intro in the counter-insurgency manual (FM3-24). It fits OUR political system today--Dems/progressives are the insurgents that just got into power, RINO's are the old warlord faction now pushed out of power. Little people still lose.
The plan for success is clearly laid out, too. The problem is that COIN requires PERFECTION to work, or at least a lot closer to perfect than most are able to achieve.
I don't know about that, Washington, Mao, and Ho Chi Mihn all won through persistence and simply not losing long than their foes could sustain their efforts to win.
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I don't know about that, Washington, Mao, and Ho Chi Mihn all won through persistence and simply not losing long than their foes could sustain their efforts to win.
Hey Tom, given any thought to a running mate in 2012?
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Hey Tom, given any thought to a running mate in 2012?
Yes, but Attila wasn't available. (got to cater to the wimps ;D )
You want the VP spot it's yours, bring your own kevlar though because there are going to be some Liberals and Leaches REALLY PO'd at us ;D
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Yes, but Attila wasn't available. (got to cater to the wimps ;D )
You want the VP spot it's yours, bring your own kevlar though because there are going to be some Liberals and Leaches REALLY PO'd at us ;D
Yeah, but they have no guns. ;D
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If I win they will if they plan to vote in 2016, and a job, and proof of citizenship ;D
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If I win they will if they plan to vote in 2016, and a job, and proof of citizenship ;D
In that case, you just got yourself a running mate!! ;D
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I like Sarah, but the left has tarred her with too many alligations for her to win in a general. Col. West is an outstsanding patriotic American and I would be proud to cast my vote for him. Dream Team? West and Jindal. I'd move to Chicago and vote a dozen times or more.
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Can I be secretary of state. First things first the companys that left this country when slick willy signed the nafta agreement has 1 year to return to this country and start employing U.S. citizens or we will tax them 350 % on everything they ship into this country. Plus each state will be required to tax them 350 % on every thing they sell in their state until they comply. That should get the jobs back into this country and reduce the unemployment rate.
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In that case, you just got yourself a running mate!! ;D
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I will eat more bowels of hot chilli and then let my senator from Nebraska know[Ben Nelson] what I think of Obama getting reelected. rich642z
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I wanna be Secretary of Defense!! I love trinkets that go Boom!!!!! ;D
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I will eat more bowels of hot chilli and then let my senator from Nebraska know[Ben Nelson] what I think of Obama getting reelected. rich642z
That little whore got $2 billion for your state. Threatening to fart in his office should be worth a few K to forstall it. I mean look, opposing the plan out of principle is one thing, so is supporting it out of principle, but to shakedown the tax payers for pure pork and BRAG about it (ala Mitch McConnenel)? Get a rope!
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That little whore got $2 billion for your state. Threatening to fart in his office should be worth a few K to forstall it. I mean look, opposing the plan out of principle is one thing, so is supporting it out of principle, but to shakedown the tax payers for pure pork and BRAG about it (ala Mitch McConnenel)? Get a rope!
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But Quaker this is what we (collectively U.S. voters) have been electing for over 70 years! We brought this crap on ourselves.....I believe our whole system of government is corrupt; and that's a whole new thread....And I believe that Russian political scientist might be right- we're collapsing from within, not from a foreign power.....
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But Quaker this is what we (collectively U.S. voters) have been electing for over 70 years! We brought this crap on ourselves.....I believe our whole system of government is corrupt; and that's a whole new thread....And I believe that Russian political scientist might be right- we're collapsing from within, not from a foreign power.....
I agree, but we've had outside help. For example, the SDS and Weather Underground were actively supported by our enemies. International labor infiltrated by socialists and commies have worked hard to pervert the American dream.
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Can I be secretary of state. First things first the companys that left this country when slick willy signed the nafta agreement has 1 year to return to this country and start employing U.S. citizens or we will tax them 350 % on everything they ship into this country. Plus each state will be required to tax them 350 % on every thing they sell in their state until they comply. That should get the jobs back into this country and reduce the unemployment rate.
My plan is that the limited operations of the Federal Government would be funded largely through tariffs rather than by taxing individuals,
I would set a flat rate on all imports and exports (say 10% ) American owned companies with production OUT SIDE the US (ex ; Fords made in Mexico ) would pay a penalty of +5%, foreign owned Companies with production INSIDE the US (Toyota in Ca. Kawisaki in Wi. ) would get a -%5 break.
As far as Secretary of State goes, The main requirement is do you think you can beat up Hugo Chavez or Vladimir Putin ? (They are both relatively young with military backgrounds )
Pathfinder, sorry, there will not be a Secretary of Defense. If you are interested in running the War Department we have a deal ;D
I would like to take this chance to ask Billt and KPR if either of them are interested in running the Treasury Dept. Any one who can afford collections like they have must be able to handle a check book which is more qualifications than the current guy has.
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My plan is that the limited operations of the Federal Government would be funded largely through tariffs rather than by taxing individuals,
I would set a flat rate on all imports and exports (say 10% ) American owned companies with production OUT SIDE the US (ex ; Fords made in Mexico ) would pay a penalty of +5%, foreign owned Companies with production INSIDE the US (Toyota in Ca. Kawisaki in Wi. ) would get a -%5 break.
As far as Secretary of State goes, The main requirement is do you think you can beat up Hugo Chavez or Vladimir Putin ? (They are both relatively young with military backgrounds )
Pathfinder, sorry, there will not be a Secretary of Defense. If you are interested in running the War Department we have a deal ;D
I would like to take this chance to ask Billt and KPR if either of them are interested in running the Treasury Dept. Any one who can afford collections like they have must be able to handle a check book which is more qualifications than the current guy has.
I'm old, fat and grumpy! If I don't think I can do it myself, I'll have security staff with me won't I? As Ron White said, "I don't know how many it would have taken to kick my ass, but I knew how many they were going to use! A handy piece of information."
I throw my hat in the ring for consideration ;D
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Actually M58 I wanted you to handle the Congressional retirement program, you have certain "Special Qualifications" ;D
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Actually M58 I wanted you to handle the Congressional retirement program, you have certain "Special Qualifications" ;D
I LIKE that idea!! ;D
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Actually M58 I wanted you to handle the Congressional retirement program, you have certain "Special Qualifications" ;D
I LIKE that idea!! ;D
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I can be the under-secretary to M58......
I can stack 'em up and he can pack 'em up. ;D
All I'll need for my job is some rope!
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Hiring will be left up to Department Secretaries.
Firings will be handled by who ever is supplying the ammo ;D
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Tom,
I want to be director of the CIA, Homeland Security, NSA, FBI and BATF. Everything under a Department of Intelligence & Action and not the Department of Justice or other agencies or departments responsible for taxation, census or disbursement of government funds to individuals/corporations or government agencies or foreign governements. No responsibility within for direct accumulation of taxes or disbursement of funds so that there will be no conflict of interest when investigating and prosecuting criminal actions.
For consideration, you must promise to remove Reagan's Presidential Order that froze public access to new machine guns and you must pledge to overturn the NFA Act either by ruling as being unconstitutional or by agreeing to work in persuading Congress and Senate to rescind (if for no other reason than to show that you can work with people to acheive the greater good ;D .)
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And the steam roller rolls along......... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Rastus, I was thinking of leaving the NFA in place but removing all items pertaining to safety or of use to the militia in time of war.
There would only be 1 item left ON the list because some ND's just present TO much of a liability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA&feature=related
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Rastus, I was thinking of leaving the NFA in place but removing all items pertaining to safety or of use to the militia in time of war.
There would only be 1 item left ON the list because some ND's just present TO much of a liability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA&feature=related
OK, in the spirit of concensus I'll go with that, just so long as we can return to the days when anyone could drive to the local feed store and pick up a box of dynamite to blow stumps with (or blow swimming holes or whatever). Next time I go home...I'll have drive around back of the feed store to see if the old storage building is still there.
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My Dad used to do exactly that, one project was blasting a new well, I understood how to set a charge and the need for "Tamping" the charge before I learned how to read. 4th of July was GREAT ;D
I miss those days. You realize that the reason they restricted dynamite was because of the bombings by the Weather Underground ? and that BO's Pals William Ayers and his wife Bernadette Doorn were founders and among the bombers .
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Actually, I want CIA, as long as we can rename it OSS and have a statue of Wild Bill Donovan put up on Chain Bridge Road. I faithfully swear never to get caught. :D
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I have a extensive military back ground and I think I can take both of them at the same time Tom.
My plan is that the limited operations of the Federal Government would be funded largely through tariffs rather than by taxing individuals,
I would set a flat rate on all imports and exports (say 10% ) American owned companies with production OUT SIDE the US (ex ; Fords made in Mexico ) would pay a penalty of +5%, foreign owned Companies with production INSIDE the US (Toyota in Ca. Kawisaki in Wi. ) would get a -%5 break.
As far as Secretary of State goes, The main requirement is do you think you can beat up Hugo Chavez or Vladimir Putin ? (They are both relatively young with military backgrounds )
Pathfinder, sorry, there will not be a Secretary of Defense. If you are interested in running the War Department we have a deal ;D
I would like to take this chance to ask Billt and KPR if either of them are interested in running the Treasury Dept. Any one who can afford collections like they have must be able to handle a check book which is more qualifications than the current guy has.
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OK, in the spirit of concensus I'll go with that, just so long as we can return to the days when anyone could drive to the local feed store and pick up a box of dynamite to blow stumps with (or blow swimming holes or whatever). Next time I go home...I'll have drive around back of the feed store to see if the old storage building is still there.
I'm not an old man, but I remember those days. Cost $35 for a blasting/purchasing permit that was good for 1 month. Bought the stuff at Moultrie Feed and Seed. Leftovers had to be disposed of before the permit ran out.
As a side note, my family dentist found a half case of dynamite in a closet at his office about 10 years ago or so. It had been there for 15 years. He had bought it to clear land for his new house and barn and stored it there and forgot about it. Ordinance Disposal from Moody AFB in Valdosta had to come up and remove it.
I also know how high a stick of dynamite will lift an old refrigerator. ;D ;D
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They didn't come out with the permits till around 1967, that was when Dad quit doing that stuff, a case of dynamite was only $18, and they threw in the blasting caps free . I remember the Old man being PO'd because they made him show his drivers license, (whats the damn world coming to when you have to show your license to get dynamite ? ).
I have a extensive military back ground and I think I can take both of them at the same time Tom.
Don't underestimate Chavez in a brawl He started out in the Venezuelan Airborne, so he's probably in pretty good shape, Putins less impressive, he made HIS living busting Soviet Dissidents. But if your still in good enough shape to be a cop you can handle the job, plus that night stick training will come in handy for some negotiating I have in mind ;D
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Picture for you, Dry wall screws and screw gun (I will make them submit). :'(
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Picture for you, Dry wall screws and screw gun (I will make them submit). :'(
The key to Middle East Peace ! You got the job ;D
Do you realize you will be the first person to be awarded the Nobel Prize for screwing a treaty to somebodies Kneecap !
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Picture for you, Dry wall screws and screw gun (I will make them submit). :'(
Submit? Hell, those crazy bastards will probably call you "Master" and pay for the privilege. I prefer 124 grains of Golden Sabre, its a lot more persuasive, and requires no translation. Can I have CIA now? ;D
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They didn't come out with the permits till around 1967, that was when Dad quit doing that stuff, a case of dynamite was only $18, and they threw in the blasting caps free . I remember the Old man being PO'd because they made him show his drivers license, (whats the damn world coming to when you have to show your license to get dynamite ? ).
In 1967, I was just a good idea. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Submit? Hell, those crazy bastards will probably call you "Master" and pay for the privilege. I prefer 124 grains of Golden Sabre, its a lot more persuasive, and requires no translation. Can I have CIA now? ;D
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FQ, I'll have to find something else for you, I'm not sure you are up to what I have in mind for the Directorate of Operations.
I want Haz for Commerce Secretary, How would you like Interior Dept. ?
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In 1967, I was just a good idea. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Where as now they know better :D :D :D
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I was thinking more along the lines of screwing their feet to the floor and kicking the chair out from under them and then setting their hut on fire.
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FQ, I'll have to find something else for you, I'm not sure you are up to what I have in mind for the Directorate of Operations.
I want Haz for Commerce Secretary, How would you like Interior Dept. ?
If I can set up solar farms in the Mojave endangered tortises be damned, charge fair market value for mining and grazing permits and recquire timber companies to pay for forest roads, and allow guns in National Parks, I'm in. But still, I think you you've forgotten how sneaky a pissed off libertarian can be. I'd make Wild Bill look like a pansy. "You can't do that"! " "Do what exactly Senator? Nothing seems to have happened, there was just a spontaneous insurrection, purely local politics". ;)
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Submit? Hell, those crazy bastards will probably call you "Master" and pay for the privilege. I prefer 124 grains of Golden Sabre, its a lot more persuasive, and requires no translation. Can I have CIA now? ;D
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Better go with CYA......... it fits better. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'd make Wild Bill look like a pansy.
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That is the funniest thing I've heard all day. ;D ;D ;D
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Interview time FQ,
What is your opinion on torture ? Assassination ? Kidnapping relatives of terrorists and sending back their heads ?
Doing deals with drug smugglers, arms dealers and crooked banks ? inciting revolts against other heads of state, even if you don't know why these things are being done, (if you are DCI you BETTER be able to figure out why )
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Interview time FQ,
What is your opinion on torture ? Assassination ? Kidnapping relatives of terrorists and sending back their heads ?
Doing deals with drug smugglers, arms dealers and crooked banks ? inciting revolts against other heads of state, even if you don't know why these things are being done, (if you are DCI you BETTER be able to figure out why )
There's an old joke Tom. The various branch heads were called in to secure a building. The Marines blew it up. The Army fortified it. The Navy painted it grey and polished the door knobs. The Airforce took out a ten year renewable lease. CIA? Well no one knows what happened, but the building was blown up and everyone blames the Marines, and the realtor hasn't been heard from. ;D
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There's an old joke Tom. The various branch heads were called in to secure a building. The Marines blew it up. The Army fortified it. The Navy painted it grey and polished the door knobs. The Airforce took out a ten year renewable lease. CIA? Well no one knows what happened, but the building was blown up and everyone blames the Marines, and the realtor hasn't been heard from. ;D
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You just got back on the short list for DCI ;D