The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on December 23, 2009, 02:02:24 PM
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Another case of "what if Bush did it"
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order “Amending Executive Order 12425.” It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other “International Organizations” as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.
By removing language from President Reagan’s 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates – now operates – on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests. …
Americans who get arrested on the basis of Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get in the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama’s declared efforts to gain “due process” for terrorists detained at Gitmo.
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Sounds like we now need to know which law enforcement agency is calling and greet with the correct caliber >:(
Between our multiple levels of law enforcement in each and every state, an the FBI we should be covered. If that isn't enough we have the National Guard, and we can always recall some of our troops from doing the world's work. We don't need interference from INTERPOL! The last thing I will stand is some sissy frenchman enforcing UN rules in my front yard when he is too yellow to take care of his own continent!
Get us out of the UN now, and restore our sovereignty!
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I thought departments of INTERPOL, WERE a stooge for the UN.
Europe 2.0 a comin'......
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Sounds like we now need to know which law enforcement agency is calling and greet with the correct caliber >:(
Between our multiple levels of law enforcement in each and every state, an the FBI we should be covered. If that isn't enough we have the National Guard, and we can always recall some of our troops from doing the world's work. We don't need interference from INTERPOL! The last thing I will stand is some sissy frenchman enforcing UN rules in my front yard when he is too yellow to take care of his own continent!
Get us out of the UN now, and restore our sovereignty!
DING, DING, DING!
Can you say gun ban, boys and girls?
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I humbly defer to previous pic in previous post.....
Blue Helmets on American Soil? Or Blue Helmet Policy here in the U.S.?
I'll let history be my guide.
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I'm tempted to put the following in the local Newspaper... provided they don't go out of business.
Patriotic American seeks like minded constitutionalists to begin life a new in new world apart from tyrannical fascists currently in power. All volunteers expected to possess skills in marksmanship and other survival disciplines. Support for freedom and personal liberty a must. Supporters of actions of government not specifically authorized by the US Constitution will not be tolerated. All those who are prepared to do what is necessary and proper to restore traditional American values are welcome.
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the good news is this will end up in court, the very 1st time they do anything.
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the good news is this will end up in court, the very 1st time they do anything.
First they have to get past the layers of immunity to get it to the Courts, and second, using it once is one time too many.
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While I do not generally approve of US membership in international bodies like the UN, I do not think this is going to lead to Blue helmets in America's streets, it seems in fact, that the vast majority, if not all INTERPOL operatives working in the US will be US citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol
It seems to be an information clearing house more than anything else.
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While I do not generally approve of US membership in international bodies like the UN, I do not think this is going to lead to Blue helmets in America's streets, it seems in fact, that the vast majority, if not all INTERPOL operatives working in the US will be US citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol
It seems to be an information clearing house more than anything else.
thats exactly what it is.
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So we've given diplomatic immunity to an information gathering organization. These means they are free to do what they want to get the info, and then any other agency can get it from them?
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No, basically it means they can double park in front of fire hydrants. The Interpol Agents in the US are employed by the Justice department, they have no subpoena or arrest powers, You know how cops in one state can get fingerprint records from another state to ID some one ? Interpol is an international version of that.
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No, basically it means they can double park in front of fire hydrants. The Interpol Agents in the US are employed by the Justice department, they have no subpoena or arrest powers, You know how cops in one state can get fingerprint records from another state to ID some one ? Interpol is an international version of that.
Seems some Constitutional 4th Amend. issues are exempt if INTERPOL does them.
http://www.examiner.com/x-3132-Philadelphia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Obama-exempts-INTERPOL-from-search-and-seizure-on-US-lands
INTERPOL. Two sets of important privileges and immunities were withheld: Section 2(c) (presented in full text above), and the remaining sections cited (all of which deal with differing taxes).
And then comes December 17, 2009, and President Obama. The exemptions in EO 12425 were removed:
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
What does this mean? It means that we have an international police force authorized to act within the United States that is no longer subject to 4th Amendment Search and Seizure. The "property and assets of [INTERPOL], wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation."
INTERPOL, an international criminal police organization, is now poised to reside above the United States Constitution - in a place of sanctity beyond our FBI, CIA, DIA, and all other criminal investigatory domestic organizations.
President Obama has just placed our Constitutional rights under international law.