The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: pops1911 on December 24, 2009, 07:22:06 AM
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Well the commies passed in the Senate passed Obamacare - what are you going to do? Just wring your hands as usual? Better do something - next on the chopping block is amnesty for illegals, then a few things & then gun registration & finally gun confiscation. Of course then while you are still wringing your hands & complaining they will slam the door & declare BHo as the permanent savior with all he has done & he will be 'elected' as the new world leader in perpetuity.
Don't think this is just BS - WAKE UP!!!!!!!
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And those Senators are sooooooooooooooooooo proud of themselves too. If I see another press conference with those smug little bastards patting themselves on the back I am gonna be physically ill. A bunch of narcissistic ass clowns who are parading around like they saved us from space aliens or something. Give me a break!
ELINO ---------------------> Elected Representatives in Name Only
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They should be the first to use the new BHO care.
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While I'm sure everyone noticed that every yea vote was Dem. Did anyone catch Reid's little addendum? The one that pretty much makes this thing impossible to repeal? They are changing the rules as they go. I would hold out belief that it's going to be a devastating November for Dems in 2010, but I fear that the fix is already in.
These (I'm too mad to think of an appropriate adjective) are using this bill and Crap and Tax to grant themselves nearly unlimited power. For the first time in my life I actually fear what the new year may bring us. The tyrants in Washington have crossed the line in my book. The blatant abuse of power and obvious corruption that we have witnessed in the last year have been unmistakable.
I am at loss for what to do anymore. Our country is on a runaway socialist train, and the brakes have been cut. The more I look at what is happening, the more I see the inevitable wreak that is coming. It will truly be a "Man Made Disaster" and we all know exactly which men caused it. The finger of blame rest solely on 545 men and women who's sole task is the preservation of the American way of life.
At this point I don't know what the catalyst will be, but the U.S. is a powder keg. The people are growing very tired of being ignored and belittled. If congress and the white house continue down this road, with nary a peep from the supreme court, 545 men and women will be answering a lot of questions. Starting with "Will you please state your full name for the court".
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And ending with "Would you like a blindfold ? " . I am to Irate to comment on this.
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While I'm sure ...
At this point I don't know what the catalyst will be, but the U.S. is a powder keg...."
I have an igniter right here & am not afraid to use it!!!!!
Remember, just because they put a non-repeal statement in the bill doesn't mean it cannot be repealed. That's like saying I make the rules for my game & you have to play by them forever. I'm sure the next guy will call BS & enact his own rules. Also the people can by popular vote, veto anything legislated by ongress & if done this way even the Supreme Court cannot overturn it. That is also in the constitution. The founding fathers knew that at some point we would be in deep yogurt because of the commies in the world. They forsaw the takeover of our government (or an attempt) by forces within - they did provide a solution, but it is not easy. It can be done & as always, we can light the fuse as mentioned above & physically remove them!
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At this point I don't know what the catalyst will be, but the U.S. is a powder keg........
A keg of wet powder, I am afraid. Votes will be purchased with tens of billions in recovery money held purposely to buy the 2010 elections...and the RINO's went along with it.
There seem to be plenty of people who would like to see somebody light the fuse...but without dry powder it will be a fizzle. Sort of like a Bay of Pigs rerun....a seemingly good idea that was lacking in support.
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I would rather die with the CIA's Cubans than live with BO's socialists.
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over 12 trillion in debt. glad im old and have no kids. I hear the snipes are starting to heard up again.
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Hopefully, this remains a peaceful transition to sanity into the 2010 elections. Than again, I have become more pessimistic. As I look at my 14 year old son, and his future, what will it hold?
A U.N. endorsed, Europe 2.0? A Global Initiative with America riding the coat-tails of what the decisions of a few decide? A disarmed former Republic that puts it's faith in a "nanny" state? Taxed out the wazoo and led like sheeple?
Well, NOT WHILE I'M ALIVE!!!!!
This population better hit the reset button on this countries direction, or it will be reset for them.
Never in my life have the consequences been so big. Our Representative Republic, is no longer "representative". The Founding Father's put in some clauses for that. One of them is the 2nd Amendment.
"It is customary for republican governments to be bound by constitutions, and this is grand idea. The question does arise, however, about what recourse the citizen has when the government disregards its own constitution, as is the case with our own Tenth Amendment.(Let alone the Second), What do you do if your government does not obey its own laws? Our Declaration declaims that when governments do not observe the God-given rights of man, it is not only the right but the duty of the people to alter or abolish them. The Declaration of Independence may not be the supreme law of the land - which is the Constitution - but it frames our philosophy of government and serves as a guide for those who respect our traditions. More people should."
() added by me,... just a Pissed American Gun owning, Bible owning, Constitutional Advocate.
Let Homeland Security Read This.
Col. Jeff Cooper
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Exactly! Get out the guns. Hell ,we all know FDR and LBJ became dictators for life and abolished the Constitution...............
Can we all just take a pill here? Its a badly conceived social program. It was voted in, it can be voted out. Meanwhile back in reality....
FQ13 who really should get the franchise on selling Maalox to you guys
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with any luck there will be a battle of "braging rights" betwen the house and the senate and they will not pass each others bills.
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FQ, Do you know the other name for "Fabian Socialism " ? It's "Creeping Socialism".
That is what we are dealing with, a creeping cancer that only kills a little at a time, but it still kills you in the end.
All summer long the vast majority of the people voiced opposition to this, some estimates of the 9-12 march put attendance IN Washington as high as 2 million, all credible estimates were over one million. Did Congress listen to the voice of the people who pay their wages ? Not much ! They said F-ck you and passed it any way. You talk a lot about the Founding Fathers ideals and influences, is this the government Jefferson intended ?
It is time for you to pull your head out of the sand, if you continue to look at each act of usurpation in isolation it is possible to go on denying the evil that has befallen our country, but if you look (as in any OTHER criminal investigation) at the overall pattern of behavior you have to admit that the US Congress make Tony Soprano look like a good citizen.
First we have the typical history of Chicago style election corruption (ACORN, Black Panthers etc. ), a campaign started in the living room of to convicted terrorists (Ayers and Doorn ), which raised from undisclosed sources more money than any 3 presidential candidates in history, ($365 MILLION , the previous record was $100 million ) Followed by an entire cabnet of tax cheats, self confessed communists and flakes, (Hillery is the LEAST offensive and HER appointment was unconstitutional )
As much as you and others may ridicule the "Birthers" there has NEVER been a President about whom less was known, every scrap of documentation he could hide or have sealed has been, there is really no proof that he even IS Barack Hussien Obama.
attempting to control the press, granting access only to media that fawn all over him while denying it and vilifying those who dare question him, ramming through policies both unpopular and proven to be counter productive in spite of public opposition, which is labeled as Racist, Nazi, manufactured or insignificant.
Was it for this the Founding Fathers risked "Their Lives, their Liberty, and their Sacred Honor" ?
I think not.
What will it take to wake you and the rest of America to the danger we now face ? When I was at Parris Island a DI thowing trash cans down the sqaudbay while screaming "Get the f-ck out those racks" was enough even that does not seem sufficient to arose some of you from your delusions.
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Hey FQ, Merry Christmas by the way,..... Even you can understand that one piece at a time, this current admin. is not just chipping away at our "power of the people, by the people, for the people,".
They are hell bent, on changing the very fabric that this country has its pillars of a republic on. BHO stated so during the campaign.
The references abound, the usurpations and flagrant Constitutionality of laws being rammed down our throat has never been done at this level since the internment of Japanese Americans by FDR.
Progressive policies are bad for this country. The "right" is not even standing up for what it only professes during a campaign, in order to get re-elected, and keep the "game" going.
This country is on a dangerous path. Financially, Socially, Religiously, Socially. How many other references need to be cited?
tw, who doesn't need Maalox, even after a great Christmas dinner, but is rapidly approaching "terminal velocity" with the state of this countries politicians.
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Personal assumptions sometimes rest upon the sand of naivety. To believe that something can be voted out assumes there is the possibility of a fair vote in the future. Believing in fairness existing where much of what is fair has been deleted is blind belief in legality because that is what legalism says it should be...a childish and narcissic notion at best.
There is no evidence to suggest there will be any increase in fairness in the future and certainly credible evidence to suggest that there will be no voting any more fair than the rigged votes of the old USSR.
The inability to access a fair vote is one of the observations our nation's founders said we should recognize as sign that tyranny has arrived and that action is called for.