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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: rojawe on December 26, 2009, 04:48:01 PM
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"Congressional Reform Act of 2010."
It would contain eight provisions, all of which would probably be strongly endorsed by those who drafted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I know many of you will say, "this is impossible."
Let me remind you, Congress has the lowest approval of any entity in Government, now is the time when Americans can join together to reform Congress -
The entity that "represents" US the citizens of the USA .
Congressional Reform Act of 2010
1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.
A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately.
All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work.
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/2011.
The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
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Who's sponsoring this act? I like it.
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Here is one vote to get this enacted. 1
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+1
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Its unconstitutional as hell (term limits), but at this point, I'd vote for it in a heartbeat.
FQ13
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Its unconstitutional as hell (term limits), but at this point, I'd vote for it in a heartbeat.
FQ13
Half the rest of the crap they enact is unconstitutional, too.
Don't know who wrote it, but I like the way he thinks....I'd buy him a beer.
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it is a letter that was sent to Senator Bill Nelson
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=4463861836&content_dir=congressorg
Subject:
Reform Congress in 2010
To:
Sen. Bill Nelson
December 25, 2009
I know you are a disgusting and incompetent politician. I ask you to redeem yourself and champion the Congressional Reform Act of 2010
1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.
A. One Six year Senate terms
B. Three Two year House terms
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately.
All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work.
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people. No more laws exempting politicians from the laws they write.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/2011.
The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
Estero , FL
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How are term limits unconstitutional ?
They put one in place one the Office of President ?
I'm not being snarky (this time) I'm asking.
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How are term limits unconstitutional ?
They put one in place one the Office of President ?
I'm not being snarky (this time) I'm asking.
I was wondering the same thing.
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You don't really think Congress is going to vote for a Constitutional amendment that limits (their phoney baloney jobs) their terms or their pensions do you. :(
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How are term limits unconstitutional ?
They put one in place one the Office of President ?
I'm not being snarky (this time) I'm asking.
The 22 amendment to the US Constitution limits the President to two terms.
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The 22 amendment to the US Constitution limits the President to two terms.
Exactly, so why couldn't they do the same to Congress ?
The only problem I can see is it would have to be voted on by Congress, but the way around that is to pass STATE laws that no resident can serve more than 2 terms.
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The 22 amendment to the US Constitution limits the President to two terms.
Right, and that is how you change the Constitution, not through a Congressional act alone. Since the Constitution does not specify a limit, an Amendment must be passed to effect such limits. Sadly, IIRC the process does start with a Congressional act, which just ain't going to happen.
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Exactly, so why couldn't they do the same to Congress ?
The only problem I can see is it would have to be voted on by Congress, but the way around that is to pass STATE laws that no resident can serve more than 2 terms.
That has already been tried. Federal courts have ruled that the states cannot limit the terms of federal office holders. Only state office holders.
Congress must be willing to limit themselves by starting the amendment process.
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The 22 amendment to the US Constitution limits the President to two terms.
2-1/2.