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Title: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 30, 2009, 08:24:32 AM
Episode 1:       “Who’s At The Door?”
It happens every day.  You’re at home watching television, cleaning up or just reading a book.
There’s a knock at your door.  It would seem the most logical thing to do would be to just open the door. Unfortunately, that may be the biggest mistake of your life.
Once again, this season of The Best Defense begins at home by teaching you how to deal with a home invasion when you are caught away from your safe room or don’t have one. More importantly, we’ll show you how to put that knowledge into practice by teaching you “training in context”—secrets of replicating the situations you fear most through practical drills at the range.


Some of you are probably aware of the story I told a few months ago about my friend who's family was subjected to a violent home invasion just a few miles from where we taped this episode. It happen about a month after we taped.

While we covered this topic in Season 1, we all felt that the feedback we received gave us the opportunity to revisit the topic in Season 2 and go into more detail and hit some additional information. This is the first of several shows on the topic in this season's line up!

-Rob
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 30, 2009, 11:25:27 AM
 It happened here in Laconia the other night, guy answered a knock at the door and 4 people in ski masks (3 men and a woman ) commenced to pummel him. Police are looking for information but believe the attackers are people the victim knows.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: DonWorsham on December 30, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
What a great episode! Every segment was just what I wanted to see. I'm ready to buy the DVD now. I like the idea of each episode convering some portion of conceal carry. Janich looked like he toned up a bit (was he getting ready for the future fight scenes with Rob?).

Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Ranger Dave on December 30, 2009, 04:42:20 PM
Guys
My wife and I just finished watching episode#1 of the Best Defense. My wife commented on how the show opened her eyes to the possible dangers. Thanks for all the info and we are looking forward to next weeks show.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 30, 2009, 07:21:19 PM
Thanks for watching Dave & Don... Actually, Janich and I do fight in one of the episodes... 3 times ! :o.

Glad you liked it!
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: From the Mailbox on December 30, 2009, 08:25:39 PM

From: Curt R. S.
Date: 12/30/2009 6:50:27 PM
Subject: Best Defense-Safe @ Home- C'mon!
     
I love your show and TiVo it via Season Pass. I can’t believe what I heard you say regarding verbal skills to avoid shooting your firearm at a person who has entered your home. Remember he has entered your home.

First you increase the risk of harm to the home owner just by letting the intruder know where you are. Further risk is incurred when you take away the initiative and extend the time of the confrontation by telling them you have a gun and the general direction you are threatening them from. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m all for saving a life,  but fractions of a second count in these types of confrontations. I know because I have been there three times.

Your solutions fall short given the circumstances you have delineated for us. Your solutions sound more legalese than practical which was a complete surprise hearing it from you guys. You say the best way is to- “avoid lethal force and its aftermath” I say protect my family and the chance for this guy to get away with it again and again. How is that helping my community or my neighbor. Yes crime is ugly, but to scare or blame the home owner for not firing and characterizing it as  “the best way” is foolish and moreover-dangerous.

Why should the intruder be given any chance to harm you or your family once they have entered your home? Why would you teach such a notion. I was always taught to “sandwich” criticism so though I’ve been tough on you guys I thank you for your efforts. I can say sincerely that I have taken away some great nuggets of information by watching your show.

Please keep up the good work! As for me and my house, we are more than prepared to clean up the mess and make our family, home and community safer. If the garbage comes into my home it is going to be taken out in a body bag.

C.R.S.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Ping on December 30, 2009, 09:55:49 PM
Excellent opening to the Second Season. There have been a rash of knock first, then kick in the door thinking no one is home burglaries happening over the past year. The show was right on target. Really enjoyed the open hand technique performed by Michael Janich also.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 30, 2009, 10:00:39 PM
Thanks, Ping.

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Curt,

Circumstances always dictate. In the case of the situation that we actually showed. There was no reason to think that the person could harm me from outside the door (ie- no firearm displayed) and I was both off angle and behind some cover (kneeling behind a book shelf, exterior spiral wrought iron staircase and exterior wall. I was gun in hand, in the ready, on the phone with 911. In that case I would 100% all the time suggest the warning not to "give the bad guy a chance"... to give myself a chance not to need to shoot someone. It is the classic "could vs. should" argument. If I can keep myself, or a student, from NEEDING to use lethal force, I'm going to.

There are a million ways to change the circumstances so that I wouldn't "call out"... in fact, you'll see at least one of them later in the season! 

Thanks for watching.

-RJP
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: 1911 Junkie on December 30, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
I guess that was worth 50 cents.  ;D

Gave me some things to think about.

30 minutes is too short. Any way to increase it to an hour? You know, just to make sure I get my moneys worth.  ;)

I didn't see you fumbling with the safe. Biometric?
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 30, 2009, 10:15:25 PM
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I didn't see you fumbling with the safe. Biometric?

Yep. I have both types... you'll see the push button Gunvault later in the season.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: WatchManUSA on December 30, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Another great show!  I liked Michael's segment on personal carry issues.  I look forward to more.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: ericire12 on December 31, 2009, 08:53:31 AM
Seriously, how bout a super secret forum thread where you guys post the shows for us regulars who cant get the outdoor channel? Please!











































*pretty please with ammo on top :)
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Michael Janich on December 31, 2009, 10:39:32 AM
Really enjoyed the open hand technique performed by Michael Janich also.

Dear Ping:

Thank you for the kind words. If you're interested in learning more about the tactic shown in episode one and ways of "amping up" your training with it, here's a link to a guerilla video I did with Stay Safe Media on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfSrYNDCtBU

Thanks again for watching. Look forward to more empty-hand tactics this season, as well as defensive knife use and personal defense with a cane.


Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: highshot on December 31, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Rob is there a reason u are not using the Glock?
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 31, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
interesting no BS video Michael, thanks.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 31, 2009, 12:00:52 PM
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Rob is there a reason u are not using the Glock?

Because the 1911 is the best defensive pistol ever made?   No, not that....   ;D


Actually, if you look back over the body of video work that I've done over the past decade, primarily since 2005, you'll see a huge variety of firearms. I do preach efficiency and simplicity in gun choice and until the XD and M&P came along, that pretty much meant Glocks when it came to reliable defensive semi-auto choices. So after a decade of primarily recommending those guns for defense, I tend to get labelled as a "Glock Guy".  
That said, I have always tried to demonstrate techniques with as many different guns as possible. If you look at TBD and TBD:S over the last year, you'll see me with Glocks, Rugers, revolvers, an FN and even a 1911  :o... probably other types that I'm forgetting as well.

The trick from a TBD standpoint is to get the audience to understand that the principles and concepts are what are most important, not the gear or time that it takes me to get a hit on target. The audience has a huge variety of guns, it would be irresponsible for me to only show techniques and concepts with one type.

You'll see me with a Glock before the season is out... maybe even next week!

-RJP
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Walkeraviator on December 31, 2009, 12:37:21 PM
I gotta say, I havent been on here in months, but after watching the first episode of the new season I had to get on here and commend you guys for an excellent program.  I cant wait to catch the rest of the season.  Even my Wife is watching the home invasion stuff with interest as this has been her greatest fear since our child arrived 2 years ago.

Any chance you guys cover the use of a shotgun for home protection this season?  Being as I am not the wealthiest guy in teh world, I usually leave the house with my only handgun concealed on my person leaving her with just the 870 for protection.
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 31, 2009, 12:54:31 PM
We do touch on shotgun inside the home again... specifically, in the penetration demo segment that is coming up!

-RJP
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: 1911 Junkie on January 01, 2010, 01:24:15 AM
Because the 1911 is the best defensive pistol ever made?   No, not that....   ;D


-RJP


I would like it known that I really, really, really wanted to comment on The Pincus' use of a 1911 in the episode, but I behaved.

And you are correct. It is the most bestest gun ever made, ever, ever.  ;D
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on January 01, 2010, 07:37:22 AM
1911J, I used that Baer just to get you to comment!  ;D  (Bane was shooting off camera actually hitting the target for me, of course....). 

Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: ericire12 on January 01, 2010, 08:27:07 AM
We do touch on shotgun inside the home again... specifically, in the penetration demo segment that is coming up!

-RJP

I would like it known that I really, really, really wanted to comment on The Pincus' use of a 1911 in the episode, but I behaved.

And you are correct. It is the most bestest gun ever made, ever, ever.  ;D

1911J, I used that Baer just to get you to comment!  ;D  (Bane was shooting off camera actually hitting the target for me, of course....). 



Should we revisit my earlier buy/no buy comment about the 1911? ;D
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: r_w on January 01, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
The preview for next week is what really got my attention.  :o

I think I am really going to like how you keep building on the scenarios.  two thumbs way up   8)

Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Troy Hayes on January 04, 2010, 10:45:35 AM
In your home invasion scenario the bad guy was dressed like one might expect and had an obvious weapon (confirmation).  What about a better dressed bad guy with a concealed weapon?  Would this cause you to go to your pre-positioned gun?  Probably not. 

This is an argument for carrying inside the home.  If the person at the door is a stranger, one could take the precaution of gripping, but not drawing one's gun.  One foot could be placed about 6 inches from the door in a position to block it from fully opening.  That way, an attempt to knock the door fully open would be thwarted, and the defender could quickly draw his weapon.  On the other hand, if the visitor was peaceful, he would never know that the homeowner was armed or cautious. 

I like your series.  Makes one think, which is the point after all.  Where can one go to learn the bare hand skills demonstrated? 

TH
Virginia
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Rob Pincus on January 04, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
We deal with carrying inside the home in a future episode, Troy. As for where to find the training... check out martialbladeconcepts.com and icetraining.us .


Thanks for watching!

-RJP
Title: Re: Season 2: Episode 1: Home Invasion
Post by: Michael Janich on January 04, 2010, 09:59:29 PM
In your home invasion scenario the bad guy was dressed like one might expect and had an obvious weapon (confirmation).  What about a better dressed bad guy with a concealed weapon?  Would this cause you to go to your pre-positioned gun?  Probably not. 

I like your series.  Makes one think, which is the point after all.  Where can one go to learn the bare hand skills demonstrated? 

Dear Troy:

To ensure that viewers can easily "relate" to the scenario as shown on the screen, we opted for the obvious scumbag look. Seeing the "visitor" firsthand through the window or a peephole would obviously give you more insight into his intentions and more information from which to work.

As Rob mentioned, we do deal with carrying inside the home this season.

As for information on the empty-hand tactics, please check out my DVDs "Practical Unarmed Combatives Volumes 1 and 2" at www.staysafemedia.com.

Thanks again for your interest and comments.

Stay safe,

Mike