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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Tyler Durden on January 04, 2010, 12:16:30 AM
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(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q101/chills1994/squibs.jpg)
You might get his squibs.
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"Shootin' someone else's reloads is like a box of chocolates....You'll never know whatchyer gonna get"
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don't try that with a glock...( thats a 1911 barrel for those that don't know)
be thankful 45 acp is a low persure round.
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That barrel doesnt actually look in that bad of shape!
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Any details?
I would assume (maybe wrongly) that because the bullets never exited, the gun did not cycle. The pressure should have vented through/by the case and into the action. Which means the shooter had to manually rack the gun, for each subsequent shot. Three times!!
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I do not understand why it took four times to figure out there was a problem.? A 1911 that has a squib will need to be hand racked which leaves out rapid fire as an excuse.
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On reflection, this has got to be intentional. A modern shooter, whom is at least literate, can not be this ignorant without intention.
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^^^ I take it by your avatar TexCaliber that you are a USPSA'er. Most folks aren't like us USPSA'ers.
Most folks IQ's drop by about 20 points or more once you put a gun in their hands. Or they force another person to have a gun in their hands.
For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA
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Ya, know a 1911 in .45 will typically hold 8 rounds in the magazine. So I got to wonder about that picture....is that the first four rounds that he fired....or the last four?
Did shot numbers 1, 2, 3, & 4 land at his feet?
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i understand what you are saying, but I still think this was an intentional action. Someone tried to mimic the "Gun and Ammo-torture test"
I really can not see anyone doing this on accident. Then again I have given human beings too much credit in the pass on many different occasions.
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It's a shame really to waste a perfectly good barrel like that. :'(
It is a lot like the rock stars up on stage who smash their guitars.
There are tons and tons of fifteen year olds who would love to have a free guitar and try to learn on their own.
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It's a shame really to waste a perfectly good barrel like that. :'(
[Doubting Alf here] If this were staged then how do you know it was a perfectly good barrel? It may have been more than past it's prime.
Which is why, I wondered if you had in details?
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It looks like the last shot ringed the barrel. They probably stopped shooting when the slide wouldn't go back.
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This looks staged, and i think I have seen this photo before saying it was intentional. It looks like multiple rounds fired with either just the primer or the primer and a touch of powder. I actually had a squib from a factory load while I was firing variable string lengths of two or more as called by a partner. There was a slightly odd sounding 'pop' at one point, followed by a slightly louder than normal gunshot - but with all the other firing going on, sometimes sound plays tricks. The pistol continued to fire just fine, cycled smoothly, etc.
At any rate, I finished out the day and noticed a large bulge in the barrel on disassembly - it looked nothing like the cut barrel in the op. Bulged area was about 1" in length, with the largest diameter near the center of that area. I'm not an engineer, but I'm guessing the bulge was caused by compression of the gasses trapped between the squib bullet and the next good round as it traveled down the barrel. I think the 'pop' was the noise of the lodged round finally being forced out as the pressure behind it increased.
The round in question was UMC, and Remington took care of me quickly and with no questions asked. They took the pistol and checked it for cracks and stress (forget the process name, but it was done with magnetic fields) and replaced the barrel. While they didn't say so, I believe the replacement was match grade. Pistol was more accurate when I got it back.
Kudos to Remington
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The round in question was UMC, and Remington took care of me quickly and with no questions asked. They took the pistol and checked it for cracks and stress (forget the process name, but it was done with magnetic fields) and replaced the barrel. While they didn't say so, I believe the replacement was match grade. Pistol was more accurate when I got it back.
Kudos to Remington
It's called "Magnetic Particle" non destructive analysis....whereas they charge the metal magnetically and apply a medium that will develop and show any inclusions or cracks in the metal.
I think.....I'm not in QA and I don't play one on TV..... ;D
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Thats what it's called all right, T/C does it to every barrel they make before bluing. (I don't know if there is a reason they do it then, but that is where it falls in the manufacturing process. )
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Thats what it's called all right, T/C does it to every barrel they make before bluing. (I don't know if there is a reason they do it then, but that is where it falls in the manufacturing process. )
We do it before machining or when the end user requires it in our manufacturing process. I would assume it's to ensure that there are no stress fractures or inclusions from the rifling process. Why waste time blueing the barrel if it's already junk.