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Title: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Badgersmilk on January 08, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/06/us-marine-tells-australia_n_413182.html
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 08, 2010, 04:14:10 PM
 There's NO F-CKING WAY that is true. (unless they were fat or old  ;D )
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 08, 2010, 04:20:35 PM
Who says there are no gays in the Marine Corps? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 08, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
 Must be from ROTC
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 08, 2010, 04:26:49 PM
There's NO F-CKING WAY that is true. (unless they were fat or old  ;D )
Must be from ROTC

I have to agree completely with "The Bogan"!

 ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: ratcatcher55 on January 08, 2010, 04:35:28 PM
"As the spat threatened to become an international incident, the US consulate responded that they could not find a serving US Marine with that name in Australia, and Northern Territory News confirmed they had been unable to contact the Marine since the letter had been received, thus furthering the mystery."

Had to be an Annapolis Grad USN officer. I worked for one. They hate Marines. Marines are alway tracking blood and mud onto their clean ships.

Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: twyacht on January 08, 2010, 04:47:06 PM
Has someone snoped it? The headline is a contradiction in terms.

Sounds like a load of Bovine Scatology...
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 08, 2010, 04:48:54 PM
Had to be an Annapolis Grad USN officer. I worked for one. They hate Marines. Marines are alway tracking blood and mud onto their clean ships.


Marine officers attend Annapolis as well!

 ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: BAC on January 08, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Sounds like a big load to me.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: TAB on January 08, 2010, 05:53:58 PM
if there were true there would be another headline.  "marines kill gay marine"
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 08, 2010, 08:44:30 PM
if there were true there would be another headline.  "marines kill gay marine"



                                              ::)
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: TAB on January 08, 2010, 08:58:56 PM
Tell me you would not at the very least beat the crap out of the guy if he was in your platoon.

  He would be swiming home if he was a coastie. 
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Post by: Fatman on January 08, 2010, 10:49:16 PM
How long was the average swim from your boat to shore?
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Post by: Walter45Auto on January 08, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
Anybody else think the letter was written under a fake name, possibly as a result of a drunken bar bet???
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 08, 2010, 11:04:31 PM
Must be from ROTC
Just to horrify you beyond the telling Tom, I almost did ROTC in your beloved Corps. The only thing that stopped me and caused me to go Army, (I had scholarships from both in my hands and was leaning Marine), was that the Marines, for reasons known but to God, had a pretty inflexible set of math/science requirements that the Army didn't. It would have stopped me from graduating a year early with a double major. Otherwise Tom, I wouldn't have gotten my "peace dividend buy out" and been an Officer of Marines. Yes me, at Basic School at Quantico, bad hair cut and dress Blues. You may scoff, but Marine ROTC had the same rep as Harvard. Damn hard to get into, but once you were in, it was hard to wash out. The Army was the opposite. They'd give anyone a shot, but kick you to the curb in a heart beat.
FQ13 who giggles knowing that but for two physics and a 4 math classes , I would be signing my posts "Semper Fi" and causing you to have apolplexy ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 08, 2010, 11:33:34 PM
 That's because the Marines are looking for GOOD MEN, not any chump that can score a scholarship.
Bear in mind FQ, it's hard to get washed out, but they make it easy for you to quit.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 08, 2010, 11:56:17 PM
That's because the Marines are looking for GOOD MEN, not any chump that can score a scholarship.
Bear in mind FQ, it's hard to get washed out, but they make it easy for you to quit.
As it should be. Robert Heinlien had it right in "Starship Troopers". You don't serve, you don't vote. More than that, there's no draft, and you can quit any time you want up until deployment. Beyond that, you're in. That's what made me lean Marine more than Army. Hell, I never wanted to be Rambo, my MOS peference for both was the same, intel, ordinance and transport in that order. I just wanted to serve, get my scholarship, and get out. But, the tail is as important as the teeth, . I liked the ethos of the Marines, particularly on the enlisted side, but not enough to spend an extra year in school taking math classes I'd never use. Army it was, but we were, in all honesty, a flabby bunch, at least among the lower classmen who hadn't been given the two year "get the f@ck off my obstacle Pyle" eval. Upper classman to upper classman, we were fine, but feshman to freshman, the Marines kicked our ass.
FQ13
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: crusader rabbit on January 09, 2010, 08:11:03 AM
Perhaps it was an honest error.  Perhaps the writer got the service branch wrong.  Perhaps he meant to say an Air Force Officer.  I'n not sayin'... I'm just sayin' :-*
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: ratcatcher55 on January 09, 2010, 09:07:10 AM
Marine officers attend Annapolis as well!

 ;D

Yes I know some poor folks can't afford a REAL education and go to the federal trade school on the bay. ;D
That line would set my old boss ass on fire!
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 09, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
Yes I know some poor folks can't afford a REAL education and go to the federal trade school on the bay. ;D
That line would set my old boss ass on fire!

I never had the experience of any Annapolis grads.  All of the officers I served with were either NROTC, OCS or just college grads with no purpose in life.  Most weren't much older than I was when I seperated.  Had things been different, I may have made the Navy a career.

According to statistics on colleges and universities, the most difficult colleges nationally for academics are West Point, Annapolis, the Air Force Academy and the Coast Guard Academy......
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: ratcatcher55 on January 09, 2010, 10:11:57 AM
I never had the experience of any Annapolis grads.  All of the officers I served with were either NROTC, OCS or just college grads with no purpose in life.  Most weren't much older than I was when I seperated.  Had things been different, I may have made the Navy a career.

According to statistics on colleges and universities, the most difficult colleges nationally for academics are West Point, Annapolis, the Air Force Academy and the Coast Guard Academy......

I don't disagree and don't take it that I don't like Academy grads in general. It's that there are "ring knockers" who could not lead hungry wolves to meat. The clique keeps them in their branch of service way too long. The old USNA grad I worked with, (I was not in his chain of command) was getting by on the fact he played football at the school, I think without a helmet.  When it was obvious he was over his head he went to the US Secret Service.  Good choice because he was large enough to stop lots of bullets and too stupid to get out of the way.

I hear the same stories from the folks in the branches of the service so I guess you just learn to accept it if you want to make that a career.

My current boss is a O-6 USNR. A good guy, smart and worked for me when he was an O-1 and O-3. He has a sense of humor and would write that letter to piss off Marines.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tt11758 on January 09, 2010, 10:22:39 AM
NO Marine I ever knew would bitch about scantily clad women.  At least not until after he had left what little they were wearing laying in a pile on the floor and left the wearer in a puddle of her own sweat.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 09, 2010, 10:32:35 AM
My rate wasn't prestigeous enough for Academy types.  No shipboard service to speak of.  Our officers in the 70's were mostly adminstrative types with degrees in Poly Sci, Accounting, who knows but they were not techincal wizards and when you're working 80-90 hours a week working with sound physics, have a few technical skills would be a plus.

About the time I seperated, the Navy finally figured it out and started promoting from within and taking E-6, E-7's and E-8's and making them LDO's.  A bunch of my old buddies mustanged into the leadership rolls that made things much easier to deal with.  No longer did you have to take some 23 year old girl with an accounting degree and try and get them to understand what the deep sound channel axis was or identify an Alpha running at 30 knots under the ice cap.  You had seasoned analysts running the operations and commands.

One friend of mine started E-1, did 34 years and retired in '07 as an O-6.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 09, 2010, 10:47:12 AM
I never had the experience of any Annapolis grads.  All of the officers I served with were either NROTC, OCS or just college grads with no purpose in life.  Most weren't much older than I was when I seperated.  Had things been different, I may have made the Navy a career.

According to statistics on colleges and universities, the most difficult colleges nationally for academics are West Point, Annapolis, the Air Force Academy and the Coast Guard Academy......
Not neccesarily for "quality" of academics, there you want to look at MIT and the like. In terms of selectivity, how hard it is to get in, the Coast Guard Academy has long been tops. Its something like one out of 100 make it. It makes Harvard look like a safety school. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: bulldog75 on January 14, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
I know marines are like the army (former army). I do not think they would compalin about seeing a little more of a womans anatomy. They might start somthing and pillaging. :o
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: TacticalTennessean on January 15, 2010, 10:16:44 AM
Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts.  :-\
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 15, 2010, 11:21:30 AM
Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts.  :-\


Didn't mean to sound so harsh....everyone is welcome here.  My point, though poorly verbalized, was that the job I was doing would have been better suited to officers with engineering degrees with heavy physics backgrounds.  There are fine officers that come out of the ROTC programs.  Nearly 50% of commisioned active duty officers today come from ROTC.  Non of my officers were bad administrators.  Once we E-5's taught them HOW to do the job, they would eventually catch up!

 ;)

Thanks for your service...

p.s.  E-5's run the military in spite of what the E-9's tell you!

Tim

Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
Sounds like Political Science majors going through Air Force ROTC aren't welcome round these parts.  :-\

 No problem with AF ROTC, No problem with Political Science majors as long as you don't believe the crap the socialist professors are feeding you. If you take their propaganda as gospel you will get kicked around like a Fighting Quaker   ;D
2 most important things, Remember that all that European Humanism stuff is discredited crap, and as they present differant ideas, ask yourself "How would this work out in a 3rd world jungle ? "
Third item, read Thomas Sowell's "Conflict of Visions" or watch this video

http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_with_Bill_Whittle/A_Tale_of_Two_Revolutions%3A_The_War_of_Ideas_%26_the_Tragedy_of_the_Unconstrained_Vision/2403/
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: bulldog75 on January 15, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
They just keep us E-6s around for adult supervision. To keep the shave tails entertained with a compass.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2010, 11:25:50 AM
 OH GOD, the most dangerous person in uniform, a 2nd Lt. with a compass  !  ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Timothy on January 15, 2010, 11:27:08 AM
OH GOD, the most dangerous person in uniform, a 2nd Lt. with a compass  !  ;D

Or an Ensign with a sextant... ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: philw on January 15, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
 Capt John Campbell  must be a Poof   IMO      especialy with the clement  up there   they ladies are dressed quite appropriately if you ask me  ;D

thing is  no one that has looked up his name can find him posted here in AU    so not sure if it is BS




I will leave it for your selves to decide  if you see any issue with how they dress
(http://www.ntnews.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/02/21/Bikinis.jpg)

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/01/06/1225816/646870-bikini-girls.jpg)
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2010, 04:22:43 PM
After close examination I find nothing to complain about.
Except of course the relative lack of variety in the second photo, white is fine, but variety IS the spice of life  ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: deepwater on January 15, 2010, 10:25:47 PM
Capt John Campbell  must be a Poof   IMO      especialy with the clement  up there   they ladies are dressed quite appropriately if you ask me  ;D

thing is  no one that has looked up his name can find him posted here in AU    so not sure if it is BS




I will leave it for your selves to decide  if you see any issue with how they dress
(http://www.ntnews.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/02/21/Bikinis.jpg)

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/01/06/1225816/646870-bikini-girls.jpg)


he certainly ain't no Marine! damn pansy! so..... what is it they are wearing that's 'disgraceful'  ;D to my trained merchant mariner eye... they look just fine. hell, they could stand to get a little more comfortable..  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
my ship needs to go off contract soon and head for AUS.......  ;D

deepwater
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2010, 10:27:17 PM
 If they HAVE to keep the Bikini's on more colors would be nice.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Johnny Bravo on January 15, 2010, 11:08:39 PM
I hope you have a guest room Phil. I'm packing right now. After looking again.......I'd sleep on your porch or in a car,truck. Wait a minute....who needs sleep? I feel 30 again.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: deepwater on January 15, 2010, 11:12:04 PM
I hope you have a guest room Phil. I'm packing right now. After looking again.......I'd sleep on your porch or in a car,truck. Wait a minute....who needs sleep? I feel 30 again.

sleep? who needs sleep? you can sleep when you die!  :D

(I go ashore a lot!)

deepwater
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Johnny Bravo on January 15, 2010, 11:15:48 PM
sleep? who needs sleep? you can sleep when you die!  :D

(I go ashore a lot!)

deepwater

So your saying you carry your wood with you when you go ashore?
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: Pathfinder on January 16, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Yeah, I see something wrong in the way the ladies are dressed, esp in the first picture. They got too damn much fabric on!!!

sleep? who needs sleep? you can sleep when you die!  :D - Thank you Warren Zevon! RIP Brother

(I go ashore a lot!) - not now that you're married, right? ? ? We've seen your little cutie and she can now shoot too (thanks to you). As Bill Engval once said - Are you stupid?   ;D  ;D  ;D

deepwater
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: deepwater on January 16, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
Yeah, I see something wrong in the way the ladies are dressed, esp in the first picture. They got too damn much fabric on!!!



sleep? who needs sleep? you can sleep when you die!  Cheesy - Thank you Warren Zevon! RIP Brother

(I go ashore a lot!) - not now that you're married, right? ? ? We've seen your little cutie and she can now shoot too (thanks to you). As Bill Engval once said - Are you stupid?   Grin  Grin  Grin

deepwater

see. there you guys go sticking your heads in the gutter. who ever said anything about doing anything 'wrong'? remember, sailors are well known for their drinking abilities as well.  ;D .I go ashore for a few ice cold beverages whenever I get the chance. when in Guam we have access to the ship 24 hours a day (no curfew or launch to catch) and so sometimes show up just in time to start work.  ;D  :o  :P  ;D depends on the port as to how stupid we get. going to Singapore in a few days!  :D

deepwater
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: bulldog75 on January 16, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
Tom I think we have found the next beaches we need to storm.
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 16, 2010, 04:33:59 PM
 F-ck Tripoli , I'm heading for Perth   ;D
Title: Re: Just to be SURE the whole world hates us.
Post by: bulldog75 on January 16, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Make sure they issue us enough wrappers or we will take over their country.