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January 11, 2010, 12:32 pm
Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News
By JIM RUTENBERG
Former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska has signed on as a contributor to the Fox News Channel.
Sarah PalinThe network confirmed that Ms. Palin would appear on the network’s programming on a regular basis as part of a multiyear deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.
Ms. Palin will not have her own regular program, one person with knowledge of the deal said, though she will host a series that will run on the network from time to time. This person would not elaborate, but the network does have a precedent for such a series. Oliver L. North is the host of an occasionally running documentary series on the military called “War Stories.”
Many suspected that when Ms. Palin retired as the governor of Alaska last summer she was doing so to pursue some sort of career in television. The Fox News deal, however, would not seem to be all-encompassing, and would appear to give her room for other pursuits, as well.
The deal was formally announced on Monday afternoon. Robert Barnett, Ms. Palin’s lawyer, did not respond to a call for comment. “I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News. It’s wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news,” Ms. Palin said in a statement.
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And for her 17th minute........ ::)?
FQ13 who supposes its better than "Dancing With the Stars", although Paula Abdul did quit American Idol.... Absestos suit firmly on. ;D
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would some one please gag this women... she is doing more harm then good.
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Hey TAB and FQ, I think you 2 are the ones who should STFU. After all, you moderates have done SO well.
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hey tom, why don't you tell me what is so great about her?
I've asked you this before and you have never replyed.
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Hey TAB and FQ, I think you 2 are the ones who should STFU. After all, you moderates have done SO well.
Tom
This isn't about ideology as much as it is about a person. Let me look at this as a professional. Palin has 2 problems. First she was a contraversial veep choice on a losing ticket. Maybe she was part of the problem, maybe the best thing McCain could have done. You call it. Thing is, lot of the GOP movers and shakers see it as the former (as do I). It will hurt her ability to raise money with the Wall Street base. The second problem is more serious. She quit halfway through her first term as governor. This is the death blow. Had she finished her term she would have been a viable Senate candidate. As it is, a lot of her former Alaska supporters see her as a quitter who never really wanted to be governor in the first place. She said she'd do a job, they supported her, and then she quit. The work ethic is alive and well in Alaska. You don't show up for work, people get pissed. This means she couldn't elected dog catcher in the Great White North. Now she has to run for national office. What are the odds of the GOP putting up a lightning rod re-tread? She's done, and has no-one but herself to blame.
FQ13
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TEA PARTY FTGOP&DEMOS
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Tom
This isn't about ideology as much as it is about a person. Let me look at this as a proffessional. Palin has 2 problems. First she was a contraversial veep choice on a losing ticket. Maybe she was part of the problem, maybe the best thing McCain could have done. You call it. Thing is, lot of the GOP movers and shakers see it as the former (as do I). It will hurt her ability to raise money with the Wall Street base. The second problem is more serious. She quit halfway through her first term as governor. This is the death blow. Had she finished her term she would have been a viable Senate candidate. As it is, a lot of her former Alaska supporters see her as a quitter who never really wanted to be governor in the first place. She said she'd do a job, they supported her, and then she quit. The work ethic is alive and well in Alaska. You don't show up for work, people get pissed. This means she couldn't elected dog catcher in the Great White North. Now she has to run for national office. What are the odds of the GOP putting up a lightning rod re-tread? She's done, and has no-one but herself to blame.
FQ13
just to add a little bit to this, not only did she quit, she quit while "under fire" and never gave a reason for it.
Even if she had a great reason for leaving that was no do to her coming under investagtion(say her family needed her), since she never gave it. most people will assume it was do to her coming under investagtaion
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just to add a little bit to this, not only did she quit, she quit while "under fire" and never gave a reason for it.
Even if she had a great reason for leaving that was no do to her coming under investagtion(say her family needed her), since she never gave it. most people will assume it was do to her coming under investagtaion
When in doubt apply common sense. Let's get real, if only for a minute. Here is the deal. She could stay on as Governor, and put up with all of the headaches for $125,000.00 a year, or option B. Cash in on a book deal worth MILLIONS, and take a job in broadcasting which she has experience in for MILLIONS MORE. I would have to think about that, for about 2 seconds! Quitting was the best thing for her to do. She is now a citizen. She didn't "abandon" Alaska. Russia isn't going to come across the Bering Straight anytime soon. She is poised to position herself perfectly if she chooses to run in 2012. We now have the biggest total idiot in the history of the Presidency sitting in 1600 North, and people have the audacity to be critical of her abilities? Give me a break. This woman has done more politically by mistake than that charlatan ever has on purpose. And the idiot's lined up to chant his name and vote for this asshat. This country is at the bottom, no matter how you look at it. If she runs and wins, it will be a total improvement over this band of idiotic pirates we have now.
The dems have been looking for a way to hang this woman since day one, when they flew a plane load of lawyers to Alaska with shovels to dig up as much dirt as possible on her. They are no closer now then they were then. Bill T.
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She also could have "nutted up" and honored the oath she took.
the definition of integrity, its not taking the easy choice, but honoring your commitments, reguardless of the out come for you.
I could file for bankrupcy right now, have all my debt washed away, but that would be a lack of intergity on my part. When I signed on that doted line, I said I was going to pay. I'm going to pay, if that means I have to sell every thing I own, I'm going to do that.
She said she would be govener, she swore a oath and then walked away.
her integrity is not in question, we know she has none.
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The liberal playbook always goes after those that scare them the most. Many identify with her because she doesn't talk like career BS master politicians.
60 minutes spent 13 out of 15 minutes "bashing her". WHY?
No mention of Harry Reid's stupid remark, a minute on the Hildabeast & Slick Willy, hmmmmmm.
Saul Alinsky playbook tactics from the left. She may not run, I don't think she is the "answer" to the GOP either. However, the GOP has lost it's way and frankly sucks rocks like the Dems also.
I would rather have a "real" person in politics, than a plastic (insert profanity) like that is infesting D.C. now.
So she left her Gov. position. Somehow selling almost a million books in the first week didn't seem to effect her ability to attract folks that are pretty damn fed up with the "status quo" bastards that we have now.
Even TAB & FQ can agree that the current politicians of BOTH parties SUCK. Palin is not part of that mold, and that's why she is bashed at every chance, and also why she is popular.
Perhaps a cabinet post instead of a VP or POTUS run...
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I agree both partys suck, but I don't see palin as being independent.
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TAB, I've said before She's conservative. Something YOUR State could benefit from. Your the one always whining about the licenses and fee's you had to pay (that is, before liberal economic policies drove you out of business )
FQ, you voted for Obama who didn't even finish his only term as Senator so STFU.
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TAB, I've said before She's conservative. Something YOUR State could benefit from. Your the one always whining about the licenses and fee's you had to pay (that is, before liberal economic policies drove you out of business )
FQ, you voted for Obama who didn't even finish his only term as Senator so STFU.
There you go Tom, always oversimplifying things for those of lesser cerebral capacity!
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Quite bluntly, the simple fact that TAB and FQ are agin her makes me FOR her.
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FQ, you voted for Obama who didn't even finish his only term as Senator so STFU.
Exactly. McCain would have "walked out" on Arizona if he would have won instead of Hussein. In the process I can all but guarantee you Arizonians would be a hell of a lot happier than they are now. We also managed to get rid of Janet Napolitano the same way. We're still celebrating that one! These people are no different than anyone else. They quit one job for a better one. I've done it many times. It's one of the reasons I can afford to buy so many guns. You go where the money is. It's common sense. It's also foolish to do anything else. I can put 1,000 broke guys in 3 piece suits, and I won't get a cent for their "integrity". Bill T.
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Bill
What you and Tom seem to be ignoring here is that Palin didn't quit to run for higher office. That's fine and I've never said it wasn't (though Lieberman's keeping his name in both the VP and senator slots in 2000 was just sad). Palin quit post electon. She was facing ethics charges and walked away. Maybe thats unfair. She has a Down's infant and a teenage daughter with a new child and what seems like trailer trash on the father's side. That's a lot for any mom. Maybe that was the reason. She just never said. That is a problem. Its one thing to be promoted out of your current job, and another to just quit. Taking the FOX News gig makes good sense financially. I'd do it if that's what she wants/needs. It is, however, the kiss of death politically. She has become Fred Thompson, who gave up a safe Senate seat to go work on Law and Order. He then thinks people will take him seriously when he says he's so dedicated to public service he should be President? Ideology and party aside, Americans don't like a quitter. As much as I dislike W., he didn't quit, hell neither did Cheney or Condi. Sarah did. Stick a fork in her, she's done.
FQ13
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Sarah Palin is gaining in popularity every day that goes by. Her base is increasing constantly. She commands, and gets six figures for speeches. Her book went to the best seller list the first day it was on the market! "Kiss of death"? You've got to be kidding! I don't see how she could be doing any better? What happened to Geraldine Ferraro after her run with Mondale? She disappeared into oblivion. Sarah Palin has a Downs child, and the "kid", (he sure as hell isn't much of a man), who got her daughter pregnant hit the road. I don't know about you, but I can come up with over half a dozen people who have endured much the same as parents. That is what makes her so popular. She is real. Not some duped up idealog who is lost without a Teleprompter. This woman has more common sense in her little finger than Hussein will have in 10 lifetimes.
You think she should have stayed and gave up millions in the process. Don't plan on being a financial adviser anytime soon. Her leaving the Governorship was destined to happen. She would have to be a total idiot to sit up there and let opportunity blow by at 100 miles per hour. Chances in life as grand as what's in store for her come along once in a thousand lifetimes, if that. She would have to be a complete idiot to let it go by. Bill T.
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She has become Fred Thompson, who gave up a safe Senate seat to go work on Law and Order. He then thinks people will take him seriously when he says he's so dedicated to public service he should be President? FQ13
Fred Thompson gave up being a has been, for trying to be a never was. Comparing him to Sarah Palin is like comparing Danica Patrick to Michael Schumacher. Bill T.
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At least FoxNews gives good ol' Geraldine Ferraro a forum , as she is a contributor quite often.......Better than the track record of the Liberal MSM. CNN, MSNBC, and the other major networks.
Palin has a persona that one could meet at a rifle range, enjoy some target shooting, and have a beer with afterwards. Can you say the same about Pelosi, Reid, or "ma'am Boxer?", or any member of the left or most of the right? Okay, say its a fishing trip....same scenario. Who would be more "real"?
Still think a cabinet position for her would be fine, and you know what else scares the nay sayers? She's young enough to "get exp." in a future admin, and independent enough to wait until 2016, or beyond.
Fred Thompson failed because the game is rigged, and many in this country, followed the Hope & Change, ACORN BS, that somehow got what we have now. How's it working out???
As I posted, McCain was not my candidate, just another RINO, who plays the demographics like the Dems. (can't piss off the Hispanic vote, cant' piss off the pro-life/pro-choice, can't piss off the senior citizens,soccer moms,........etc,,,...et,..al,...).
It's all a scam.... At least Palin, reserves the dignity to say "F" this, and at least not placate to the fence walkers.
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Sarah Palin is gaining in popularity every day that goes by. Her base is increasing constantly. She commands, and gets six figures for speeches. Her book went to the best seller list the first day it was on the market! "Kiss of death"? You've got to be kidding! I don't see how she could be doing any better? What happened to Geraldine Ferraro after her run with Mondale? She disappeared into oblivion. Sarah Palin has a Downs child, and the "kid", (he sure as hell isn't much of a man), who got her daughter pregnant hit the road. I don't know about you, but I can come up with over half a dozen people who have endured much the same as parents. That is what makes her so popular. She is real. Not some duped up idealog who is lost without a Teleprompter. This woman has more common sense in her little finger than Hussein will have in 10 lifetimes.
You think she should have stayed and gave up millions in the process. Don't plan on being a financial adviser anytime soon. Her leaving the Governorship was destined to happen. She would have to be a total idiot to sit up there and let opportunity blow by at 100 miles per hour. Chances in life as grand as what's in store for her come along once in a thousand lifetimes, if that. She would have to be a complete idiot to let it go by. Bill T.
We are not disagreeing here Bill. She did the smart thing financially. It was however the stupid thing politically. I don't know about you, but when I vote for a governor or president, I'd like to think they'd do their duty, not just be waiting for a better deal. She did the smart thing with the books, speeches and TV gig. BUT she transformed herself from a public servant who will sacrifice for the common good to fufill an oath, to Palin inc.. And the latter is not a bad thing thing. Commentators serve a valuable role in keeping politicians honest. Just don't tell me you quit (not got promoted out of) your term as Governor to make some green while the making was good, and expect me to believe you would treat the Presidency any differently than the Governor's office. And that Bill, has zero to do with politics and everything to do with keeping an oath.
FQ13
PS In this, she is Fred Thompson.
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FQ is just sexist.
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FQ is just sexist.
...and racist...
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At least FoxNews gives good ol' Geraldine Ferraro a forum , as she is a contributor quite often.
And they will do even more to advance Palin by giving her proper political exposure. I don't understand why people are in such denial about this woman? She now has, much like Hussein did with NBC, an entire news, and business network to give her the proper political exposure over the next 3 years to advance her political career. And at the same time they'll pay her well into 7 figures to do it! Is anyone really dumb enough to think she would have been better off politically to remain in that freezer pit for the next 3 years, and be as totally detached from politics and reality as one can get?
This was a well planned move. Every single bit of it. The entire foundation was laid in place long before she gave up her Governor position. This didn't come about from a 15 minute conversation with the old man over 2 glasses of wine by the fireplace. Fox News and The Fox Business Channel leave everyone in the dust ratings wise.
Liberal television is falling apart just as liberal talk radio did. No one wants to hear their country bashed 24 / 7, anymore than the citizens want this lisping Harvard idiot running all over the world apologising for United States on "our behalf". People are sick of it, and him. His poll numbers show it. And, as almost if it were magic, as Hussein heads for the cellar, Palin keeps rising. If Palin were a liberal George Soros couldn't buy her this kind of opportunity!
The naysayers are simply sounding more and more foolish as they continue their rabid assault on her. They haven't figured out what the rest of the country already knows. By insulting her, they are insulting mainstream, middle America. That is where the heart of this country is, and these fools better start believing That Is Where The Votes Are! The dems are going to lose big this November because of Hussein and all of his liberal, failed policies and actions. The Republicans are not going to have to fight for it politically. The dems will hand it to them on a silver platter. This administration is well on it's way to making Herbert Hoover look like Ronald Regan! Bill T.
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We are not disagreeing here Bill. She did the smart thing financially. It was however the stupid thing politically. I don't know about you, but when I vote for a governor or president, I'd like to think they'd do their duty, not just be waiting for a better deal. She did the smart thing with the books, speeches and TV gig. BUT she transformed herself from a public servant who will sacrifice for the common good to fufill an oath, to Palin inc.. And the latter is not a bad thing thing. Commentators serve a valuable role in keeping politicians honest. Just don't tell me you quit (not got promoted out of) your term as Governor to make some green while the making was good, and expect me to believe you would treat the Presidency any differently than the Governor's office. And that Bill, has zero to do with politics and everything to do with keeping an oath.
FQ13
PS In this, she is Fred Thompson.
Since I'm well to the right of Atilla the Hun, what I am about to say feels wrong, dirty and a little slimey... But, I have to agree with FQ on this one. The fact that we are arguing about it on this board proves his point--she is divisive and perceived by many (I am one) as a quitter. Going to FOX was a good move for her as it will provide more income than she could generate any other way. But, many of us have a number of problems with Palin besides the fact that she quit her job. She just doesn't seem to have the necessary intellect for high office. She doesn't have "wisdom." She has a lot of pointed, pithy sayings, but there just doesn't seem to be a lot of thinking going on in that pretty head. I think exposure on FOX will finish her for elected political office just as it has for the guitar-man, Huckabee. Yes, she has a loud and active base, but at least that number are just as loudly opposed to her--not based upon her politics, but based upon her.
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she is divisive and perceived by many (I am one) as a quitter.
Let's go with that thinking. Politics, especially Presidential, is a long shot at best, all but impossible in fact. If Palin had sat in the Alaska Governor's chair for whatever time she had left on her "contract", any aspirations of a big scale political career would have been long gone. She, like most all second banana V.P. candidates, would have slipped into low paying oblivion for the rest of her life. By doing what she is doing, she is not only generating tremendous income that will improve her life forever, she will continue to broaden her base, which as anyone who isn't living in a cave knows, is growing daily. Sarah Palin was literally thrown into the spotlight overnight. She wasn't "groomed" to be "Presidential" like Hussein. She stumbled in interviews, and make a few gaffs. Fox News will groom her in forums she can not only rehearse, but can easily handle. She will have a staff of dozens helping her every step of the way. NBC had Hussein, Fox will have Palin. Fox News Channel beats out MSDNC with more morning viewers than MSDNC has in prime time! And trust me, they'll be able to teach her to read off a Teleprompter, just as good as Hussein. Not only that, but Fox can afford equipment that won't jam up as much as Hussein's does!
Fox is the absolute best thing that could have happened to her at this point. A mega successful book, and now continuous exposure on the most watched cable news outlet in history. You and a few others may think of her as a "quitter", but you are becoming more of an endangered species every day. She hasn't "quit" anything except a lousy, low paying, dead end job. She is just beginning. My suggestion is to buy some popcorn, turn on the 52" HD, and enjoy what is sure to be the best show of the decade. The whining, liberal left bitched about her high priced clothes during her campaign. Wait until the Fox wardrobe dept. gets finished with her. She'll make Carrie Prejean look like a bag lady! And don't be foolish enough to think the Presidential election isn't part beauty contest, it is. Bill T.
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By leaving the Governorship when she did she saved the state a large amount of money it would have spent fighting frivolous lawsuits filed by liberals in KGB type attempts to discredit her.
The fact that "Moderate" Republicans hate her as much as the socialists do should tell you that she is our type of candidate.
I however hope BO steals a second term since I have repeatedly said that the only EFFECTIVE way to rid our society of the destructive socialist element that permeates it is through an armed revolutionary clean sweep.
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Wow, this quickly turned into a Palin bashing thread.... and on a right wing gun forum no less ::)
Here is the bottom line. Love her or hate her, this is an obvious sign that her political career is over. Much like Mike Huckabee and Carl Rove, Palin is now 100% focused on using her celebrity to get paid. Mark my words..... you will never see her run for public office again.
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Palin is now 100% focused on using her celebrity to get paid. Mark my words..... you will never see her run for public office again.
Bingo!!!
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She won't have to worry about "running" for anything. A Cabinet appointment, in a future admin doesn't require a campaign. If and when the majority changes again, she'll get a confirmation hearing, the left and RINO's will bit** & moan, and it will happen or it won't.
She can be a reminder to the D.C. insiders, while on FoxNews, that the arrogant,pompous days of the Kerry, Kennedy(who is still sober), Reid, Boxer, Pelosi, Graham, McCain, and a host of others, have got to go. Time for term-limits, line item veto's, balanced budgets, and the current crowd in D.C. the (insert profanity) out.
The polls show it now. Congressional Approval across the board is flat-lining. Yet Palin's approval is steady in positive numbers.
As far as her not being smart or worldly, are you impressed with the current Congress members actions that are so smart and worldy.
Hardly do any worse in that town,....
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As far as her not being smart or worldly, are you impressed with the current Congress members actions that are so smart and worldy. Hardly do any worse in that town,....
Isn't that the awful truth! If Hussein has taught us anything, it's the very real FACT that ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE can be President. This guy was, (is), as big of a nobody as you will ever see ascend into that office. A "community organizer". Really? Just what the hell did he ever organize? His political "contacts" read like a who's who of FBI tagged radicals. His "preacher" belongs in prison for impersonating an American.
A President is nothing more than a figure head. The mouth everything eventually comes out of. Regan had a brilliant Presidency because he surrounded himself with brilliant people, and was smart enough to listen to them. Hussein looks like an idiot because he has surrounded himself with idiot's. The only way he could do worse, is to listen to them more. Pelosi is totally delusional. She acts like she's on drugs. Reid looks like he needs a nap. The rest of this bunch look like vacuum cleaner salesmen. No wonder they're all heading for the hills instead of reelection! Christ, from the way this thing is going, Palin could walk into office in 2012. She's got all of these a$$holes beat on her worst day! Bill T.
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She won't have to worry about "running" for anything. A Cabinet appointment, in a future admin doesn't require a campaign. If and when the majority changes again, she'll get a confirmation hearing, the left and RINO's will bit** & moan, and it will happen or it won't.
She can be a reminder to the D.C. insiders, while on FoxNews, that the arrogant,pompous days of the Kerry, Kennedy(who is still sober), Reid, Boxer, Pelosi, Graham, McCain, and a host of others, have got to go. Time for term-limits, line item veto's, balanced budgets, and the current crowd in D.C. the (insert profanity) out.
The polls show it now. Congressional Approval across the board is flat-lining. Yet Palin's approval is steady in positive numbers.
As far as her not being smart or worldly, are you impressed with the current Congress members actions that are so smart and worldy.
Hardly do any worse in that town,....
which cabinet, postion would she fill? she has no exp in any areas that would make her a good cabinet member.
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The United States Department of the Interior (DOI) is the United States federal executive department of the U.S. government responsible for the management and conservation of most federal land and the administration of programs relating to Native Americans, Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians, and to insular areas of the United States.
The Department is administered by the United States Secretary of the Interior, who is a member of the Cabinet of the President. The current Secretary is Ken Salazar of Colorado.
Despite its name, the Department of the Interior has a different role from that of the interior ministries of other nations, which are usually responsible for functions performed in the U.S. by the Department of Homeland Security primarily and the Department of Justice secondarily.
Think that would work fine...
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She has never had to manage any land, what so ever. Her Native american exp comes form marrying one, who was wealthy do to owning a fishing biz... that you had to be native american to own. I really doubt that she knows a damn thing about what real tribed have to go thru.
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TAB you are a stick in the mud.....At least she gets in the boat and fishes, grew up hunting, and as GOV. which more than I can say for BHO, knows probably more than you think about land management, conservation and eskimo's;/ Native Americans.
Plus she would advocate nationwide,legal concealed carry on all National Parks.
Moreover, all these are operating units of the DOI. You don't think she was exposed to all these things as gov of Alaska.
I didn't catch Her asking for a bailout when she was gov. Oh that's right, Alaska didn't need one.
# Bureau of Indian Affairs
# Bureau of Land Management
# Bureau of Reclamation
# Federal Executive Boards
# Interior Museum
# Minerals Management Service
# National Park Service
# Office of Insular Affairs
# Office of Surface Mining
# United States Fish and Wildlife Service
# United States Geological Survey
Maybe we could get some domestic oil production going, get some more nuclear energy, wind farms, etc,...
I think she's be just fine as Sec of DOI. We can run through the tax cheating, socialist, scumbags that are in the current cabinet if you want to,., :-*
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She hunted and fished in alaska... thats like people in FL going to the beach. every one does it.
Do you know why alaska did not need a bail out?
its *blank* companys, paying huge taxs/fees to the state of Alaska
I'll give you a hint on the blank, is 3 letters, the 1st is "O" the last is "L"
Those O*L companys pay more then half of all taxs collected at all levels for alaska. thats every thing from federal taxs to local property taxs. doing a quick search of both the census and nonprofit tax corps. the state of alaska gets between 70% and 80% of thier state income, from those mystery companys. some of that data is from 05 some is from 07.
if you beleave the census report from 05 ak paid 1,9 bill to the federal gov (http://www.census.gov/govs/statetax/05staxrank.html) and had a average tax per capita of 2800 which put then 8th on a percapita bases( ca is number 10) if you beleave the other reports saying those companys give half the taxs and the population of AK is 800k. If you take away those companys payments( they are by far the biggest empolyers) the per capita tax is 1200 bucks which would put them at rank 50 by a couple hundred bucks.
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FACT: She was, is, far more qualified and experienced than Hussein. What "experience" did, does he have? FACT: She has held political positions of both Mayor and Governor. Again, Hussein? I simply cannot understand how anyone could not only vote for this total asshat, but then in the same breath criticize Palin for lack of experience? Get real! None of this will matter in the least if this nation is on the receiving end of one more terror attack that produces any body count. Palin will not only walk into office, Hussein will be lucky if he and his big butted steed don't have to carry the furniture in for her. Bill T.
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which cabinet, postion would she fill? she has no exp in any areas that would make her a good cabinet member.
I give you Janet Napolitano, hand picked by Hussein to head the Dept. Of Homeland Security. Arizona Governor that left behind so much red ink it will take years to clean it up. What "experience" does she have in the security field? No matter, there she sits. And you're worried about Palin's qualifications? Get serious, please. Bill T.
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Here is what I'm saying, they both have zero exp in my eyes.
They both have never really worked.
" " ran a biz( fishing in AK is not a biz its a goverment contorled monopoly)
" " been in the miltary
" " held a political office above the local level for a full term.
The list goes on and on...
The one thing Obama does have on palin is a education. Rather that comes from the school of hard knocks, one of things listed above, or from a college, it is a important thing to have.
No I didn't vote for obama, and I don't sport him.
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I give you Janet Napolitano, hand picked by Hussein to head the Dept. Of Homeland Security. Arizona Governor that left behind so much red ink it will take years to clean it up. What "experience" does she have in the security field? No matter, there she sits. And you're worried about Palin's qualifications? Get serious, please. Bill T.
we are not talking about BHO, we are talking about palin. bringing BHO into this is a dodge.
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Since when has experience ever been a perquisite for anything in politics? It's not the real world, you know. :'(
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Since when has experience ever been a perquisite for anything in politics? It's not the real world, you know. :'(
I've listed the preqs for office before...
you know things like being rich, failing in biz, only job that didn't have a credit check. ;D
If you want my vote, you better be able to atleast show some exp in something that will relate too your job.
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Since when has experience ever been a perquisite for anything in politics?
It hasn't, and never will. Look, we tried Ross Perot. He came in with pie charts, pointers, and enough business experience to run half a dozen Fortune 500 companies. He would have been a disaster. Remember his comment about, "When I get in there, all of these guys in Alligator shoes will be GONE!" What was he going to do fire them? They're elected. Totally out of touch, and used to playing, and being treated like God. Hussein lives in this liberal never, never land where everything just works out peachy with "proper dialogue". Again, totally out of touch with the real world. Pelosi is flat out nuts. She needs her apron and her vineyard. Perhaps she knows something about grapes. I hope her wine isn't as sour as her. Reid, well let's just say the polls, along with the last few days speak for themselves.
Palin is about the only one out of the whole bunch that is in touch! I couldn't give a damn about her "experience". What Washington "experience" does she require? How to lie? How to do backroom deals, and line her pockets? Fox News is doing that for her. It isn't the lack of Washington "experience" that will keep her out of the White House. It will be the pay cut! You guys are sounding like a broken record with this whole "experience" hangup. Bill T.
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You guys are sounding like a broken record with this whole "experience" hangup. Bill T.
Should be a comment of the day nominee.....
Caught her interview on O'Reilly, she is not going to be pulling any punches on Fox news.
She's on Beck tomorrow at 5pm EST.
They just can't stand it,.....boxers in a bunch comes to mind...... ;)
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TAB, FQ, and a few others would rather continue getting f-cked than try some one with actual beliefs.
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Regardless of opinion, Sarah got the conservative base amped, even with John MCLame running, and they are still amped, local bookstore signings are beyond rock star, Maybe that is just Texas,,,,,, but I doubt it. Face it Tab and FQ, normal political base is not interested in rhodes scholars, or Harvard grads, just someone who will represent us, that does not take a lot of education, if the bill stinks veto it, if it smells good allow it. The position of pres or vice pres is to face world policy and act accordingly, and world trade, their cabinet should be educated and advise as needed. The biggest leaders should be following their cabinet, with good thoughtfulness before voting. Many of our grandmothers could follow this with no problem.
I don't know where her new path will take her, but definitely, she will get more educated about world affairs, she will be a motivator, in times to come. I think in a good way.
I would trust her with defcon 2,3 or 4 better than the current admin.
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Bill~~ Thank you so much for saying everything I wanted to.
I actually compiled it all and have passed it on.. EXCELLENT posting.. :)
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I'm beginning to think TAB is as big a sexist as FQ. Let's face it, these two would think Palin was worthless if she single-handedly cured cancer. Based upon what I see of the polling data, I suspect she can afford to do without those two votes.
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I'm beginning to think TAB is as big a sexist as FQ. Let's face it, these two would think Palin was worthless if she single-handedly cured cancer. Based upon what I see of the polling data, I suspect she can afford to do without those two votes.
Ya got me TT, its because she's a girl. Just like you're a big racist for opposing BO. ::) Thing is, some love her, some hate her. Regardless of which side is right, it would make hesitate, not reject but hesitate, before choosing her to lead my party's ticket.
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It's not racism, for starters, BO's African relatives are primarily of ARAB descent (Slave TRADERS, not merchandise ).
Secondly No one wants to hang the Black 1/8th or the Arab 3/8ths, or even the white 1/2.
It's RED whole that we want to string up.
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I had the fortune of meeting her when she came through the Ohio Valley just before the election. Not only is she genuinely concerned for the US she understands the world in the same way, I think, most Americans do. Simple solutions equal better resolutions. She may be inexperienced but as I have found from my experiences in management sometimes the lack of experience allows for a more wide angle view on the "world". You're not likely to have blinders directing you. I think she has the potential to be an incredible force for re-establishing a 1770's mindset of personal responsibility and independence. No, I'm not a Palin apologist. I was really impressed listening to her when she talks of the cuff. When she does interviews that aren't dictated by McCain crackheads she is spot on with her personal opinions on most things. I'm not 100% in agreement with everything she says. But, I feel that on the things that really matter she has a good sense of what has to be done. Hell any politician that knows an AR-15 is not an Assault rifle scores high with me.
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I usually stay out of the politics, but...
People I talk to about politics are regular folks, and we often disagree a LOT. Many seem to think that we know how to fix a problem and, even though they believe that our elected officials aren't getting the job done, they still feel that a candidate needs "experience" to be elected. That argument comes up most in discussing Palin. She's just a mom, just a half term governor, just a crusader, just from Alaska, etc., etc.
My feeling is that when I look at Sarah Palin, I see someone who lives next door. I see a sister, an aunt, the lady at the food store, I see the mayor or a cop from my home town. She is real people with all of the faults, mistakes, and REALITY of any of us, and it's all OUT THERE for you to see. She definitely is NOT what we know as a politician.
Then I look at our government that we all agree AINT working and I look at the elected officials...disconnected liars, whores, all rich people, all power hungry... Harry Reid, McCain, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Clinton, Bush...and I have no doubts about WHY our govt. doesn't work. It's because of politicians.
Sarah Palin doesn't have "experience" and the left villifies her for being "folksy" and having an accent. Yet our POTUS has no experience...in fact, I cannot concieve of how a man over forty years of age could possibly have LESS experience unless he was locked in a closet in an Acorn office his whole life. The man has done NOTHING except go through the pinnacle of egg head educational institutions that have prepared him for nothing but writing books about himself and making speeches, yet he has never had to hire or fire someone, never had to balance business books, and yet he is our president because all of those a******s who believe that Sarah Palin doesn't have enough experience ELECTED this guy.
When I argue politics with folks we often come to the conclusion that our govt, SHOULD consist of citzens, not professional politicians. My plumber would make a good president. The local undertaker is smart and makes careful, considered decisions. WE THE PEOPLE should represent ourselves, not allow this slimy political industry to dictate to us. Yet we fall for the sham every time. Smart, even brilliant people somehow come to the conclusion that people JUST LIKE THEM are not qualified because they don't have that political experience.
Palin is a real person with the drive to dive in and try to do something. The left is scared to death of her. If I have to entrust the stewardship of my country and the integrity of the presidency to Barack Hussein Obama, I'd be willing to let Sarah Palin have a shot at it. She knows what it's like to worry about paying the bills, and she knows the difference between a bolt action and a semi automatic. I say let her go as high as she wants. The worst she could possibly do is what we've got right now. [color]
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Well said jaybet, and 100% right on the money. Her "lack of experience" in my opinion, is one of her greatest assets. I could just picture her sitting in the Oval Office saying, No, we simply cannot AFFORD it! Bill T.
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She's hot, controversial, entertaining, to one degree or another people can identify with her, and hot. What more could you want in a tv personality?!?
Would she be my first choice as a politician? Get me something to slap you with!
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Well said jaybet, and 100% right on the money. Her "lack of experience" in my opinion, is one of her greatest assets. I could just picture her sitting in the Oval Office saying, No, we simply cannot AFFORD it! Bill T.
And it is one of the worst "assets " for BHO.. becasue he doesn't have the common sense or the understanding of "the people" to go with it.
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Well said Jay!!
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I don't think this was posted here before, but if it has been, well, sorry for the reminder...
Even is Sarah is ignorant of a problem, she has shown that she will learn what she needs to make a decision, that her decision will be based on principles I support, and that the has the backbone to do what needs to be done.....on with the post
By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.
The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.
1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.
5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.
6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.
By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.
You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.
So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts, determination, honesty, and morals. I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.
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Solus,
Excellent post. I saved it. Thanks. Bill T.
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I usually stay out of the politics, but...
People I talk to about politics are regular folks, and we often disagree a LOT. Many seem to think that we know how to fix a problem and, even though they believe that our elected officials aren't getting the job done, they still feel that a candidate needs "experience" to be elected. That argument comes up most in discussing Palin. She's just a mom, just a half term governor, just a crusader, just from Alaska, etc., etc.
My feeling is that when I look at Sarah Palin, I see someone who lives next door. I see a sister, an aunt, the lady at the food store, I see the mayor or a cop from my home town. She is real people with all of the faults, mistakes, and REALITY of any of us, and it's all OUT THERE for you to see. She definitely is NOT what we know as a politician.
Then I look at our government that we all agree AINT working and I look at the elected officials...disconnected liars, whores, all rich people, all power hungry... Harry Reid, McCain, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Clinton, Bush...and I have no doubts about WHY our govt. doesn't work. It's because of politicians.
Sarah Palin doesn't have "experience" and the left villifies her for being "folksy" and having an accent. Yet our POTUS has no experience...in fact, I cannot concieve of how a man over forty years of age could possibly have LESS experience unless he was locked in a closet in an Acorn office his whole life. The man has done NOTHING except go through the pinnacle of egg head educational institutions that have prepared him for nothing but writing books about himself and making speeches, yet he has never had to hire or fire someone, never had to balance business books, and yet he is our president because all of those a******s who believe that Sarah Palin doesn't have enough experience ELECTED this guy.
When I argue politics with folks we often come to the conclusion that our govt, SHOULD consist of citzens, not professional politicians. My plumber would make a good president. The local undertaker is smart and makes careful, considered decisions. WE THE PEOPLE should represent ourselves, not allow this slimy political industry to dictate to us. Yet we fall for the sham every time. Smart, even brilliant people somehow come to the conclusion that people JUST LIKE THEM are not qualified because they don't have that political experience.
Palin is a real person with the drive to dive in and try to do something. The left is scared to death of her. If I have to entrust the stewardship of my country and the integrity of the presidency to Barack Hussein Obama, I'd be willing to let Sarah Palin have a shot at it. She knows what it's like to worry about paying the bills, and she knows the difference between a bolt action and a semi automatic. I say let her go as high as she wants. The worst she could possibly do is what we've got right now. [color]
Comment of the day award!
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"Thats a man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNueLL2jk0Q
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And she doesn't look like all those other women in politics, Pelosi, Boxer, Clinton ::)
(She actually smiles instead of that "I'm taking a dump" grimace )
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Another thing for all of you people who think Palin doesn't have enough "experience", is to bear in mind the fact Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose Chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress which hasn't read it, signed by a President who smokes, funded by a Treasury Chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese, and financed by a country that is nearly broke. If this is what "experience" buys, I'll take a chance on someone who doesn't have any of the Washington variety ! Bill T.
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She's hot, controversial, entertaining, to one degree or another people can identify with her, and hot. What more could you want in a tv personality?!?
Yeah.....but is she hot?..... :-*
I don't think this was posted here before, but if it has been, well, sorry for the reminder...
Even is Sarah is ignorant of a problem, she has shown that she will learn what she needs to make a decision, that her decision will be based on principles I support, and that the has the backbone to do what needs to be done.....on with the post
By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.
The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.
1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.
5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.
6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.
By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.
You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.
So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts, determination, honesty, and morals. I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.
Best. Post. Ever. 8)
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Thank you jaybeth & Solus, arguing with TAB and FQ can be like yelling at a bowling ball,,, ;)
But you guys nailed it.
Thanks again.
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(crickets are chirping as I await a reply from the "sticks in the mud")..... ::)
After all, what does "hit the reset button" in American Politics supposed to mean? Re-elect professional RINO's????
IMHO, all incumbents had their shot, and need to go. Talk to me like a real person and I'll listen, talk to me like an uneducated commoner, and see the results. Ask Tom Daschle... and soon to be Harry Reid, and any other (insert profanity) politician this cycle.
Be thankful the tar and feathering hasn't started yet... Better results in Spring anyway.... ;D
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Thank you jaybeth & Solus, arguing with TAB and FQ can be like yelling at a bowling ball,,, ;)
Its funny because they have the same IQ