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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: twyacht on January 19, 2010, 06:09:36 PM

Title: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: twyacht on January 19, 2010, 06:09:36 PM
Ms. "Ma'am herself Barbara Boxer is up for re-election"  "The Boxer, has only 46% approval with 3 Republicans chomping at the bit for a Mass. upset..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2010/01/19/MNU81BJRM1.DTL

from article:
"Certainly the dynamics will change depending on what happens in Massachusetts," she said. "But it doesn't mean we won't have a health care bill."

Still, "if Brown wins, then Tea Party supporters will smell blood in California," said Joe Wierzbicki, coordinator of the Tea Party Express, a conservative organization that counts roughly a quarter of its 353,000 supporters in California.

"This would be a sign that the momentum in general is in the direction of the Tea Party movement," he said.

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IMHO, this Republic needs to "smell some blood" , and the anti-incumbent rally needs to continue.

Reid's next, too bad Murtha's not up yet.  One scumbag at a time, and that goes for the RINO's also.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: BAC on January 19, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
Murtha's in the House.  They've been trying to get him out for years.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Kid Shelleen on January 19, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
California and the Dems nationwide had better sit up and pay attention. The Revolution has begun!!

Halleluiah ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: m25operator on January 19, 2010, 09:59:04 PM
Let the games begin, hopefully just like 1994, clean sweep, and turnover. But everybody let the republicans and independents know, take advantage, quit being fair, appoint pro gun supreme court justices, reinforce our rights as citizens and our states as sovereign.

And not take procedures and practices to allow the anti's their way, fight for us, HARD, If the new minority does not agree, do not reach across the aisle, just bury them.

Just Say No.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Johnny Bravo on January 19, 2010, 10:00:50 PM
Let the games begin, hopefully just like 1994, clean sweep, and turnover. But everybody let the republicans and independents know, take advantage, quit being fair, appoint pro gun supreme court justices, reinforce our rights as citizens and our states as sovereign.

And not take procedures and practices to allow the anti's their way, fight for us, HARD, If the new minority does not agree, do not reach across the aisle, just bury them.

Just Say No.

+1 M25 !!
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: CJS3 on January 19, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
California and the Dems nationwide had better sit up and pay attention. The Revolution has begun!!

Halleluiah ;D ;D ;D

Thank God!
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: philw on January 20, 2010, 06:41:36 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2010/senate_race/

Scott P. Brown pulled off one of the biggest upsets in Massachusetts political history, defeating Democrat Martha Coakley to become the state’s next US senator.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: crusader rabbit on January 20, 2010, 07:31:12 AM
After Croakley's concession last night, I phoned my kid in California.  Nearly first words out of her mouth were, "Now we go after Boxer."  The first skirmish of the revolution took place in Mass., and we won.  But the war has just started all over this great nation.  We must never surrender.  Say, is it time for a second Thanksgiving Day? ;D
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 20, 2010, 08:15:37 AM
This notice needs also to go to RINOS!

We've had enough, we don't care what color your party, we care about attitude and philosophy!
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Woody on January 20, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
 Before they go to Commiefornia, please get rid of Brwany Frwank!
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: r_w on January 20, 2010, 12:59:09 PM
"shot heard round the world" 

Side rant:  I said that phrase and a couple schoolkids just twisted their heads and gave me that look.  Do we not teach ANY American history anymore???
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Solus on January 20, 2010, 01:19:28 PM
"shot heard round the world" 

Side rant:  I said that phrase and a couple schoolkids just twisted their heads and gave me that look.  Do we not teach ANY American history anymore???


Maybe they thought you were a History Teacher?

Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 21, 2010, 02:38:32 AM
"shot heard round the world"  

Side rant:  I said that phrase and a couple schoolkids just twisted their heads and gave me that look.  Do we not teach ANY American history anymore???

Not Patriotic stuff, only how Columbus was an evil exploiter of the proletarian natives.
Look how ignorant FQ is and he's a Professor.(In all fairness FQ knows knows most of the facts, he just blows the understanding part.. )
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tfr270 on January 23, 2010, 10:09:46 PM
OK...I'll be first Californian to respond...

Hell Yeah we are listening.

So, Boxer is under serious pressure. She is challenged by Carly Fiorina and Chuck Devore. Polls show that Fiorina is three points behind and Devore is 6-7 points behind. I don't like Fiorina...she's a victim. Hopefully you know what I mean by that. Devore seems good and will get my money and vote in the primary. If Fiorina wins in the primary then I'll have to vote for her just to get rid of Boxer. People are seriously upset with Babs. I think we'll win that seat.

Looks like Moonbeam is the only not anti-gun candidate for Governer. Meg Whitman, a Republican that ran ebay, says that the AWB and gun control and ammo control are good for California. Republican Steve Poizer hasn't said a thing about it. His silence is deafening.

Will any of this affect our anti 2A laws? Hard to say.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2010, 10:23:34 PM
 according to what I saw in Rasmussen Di Fi wants to be Gov. but Jerry Brown polls better against the Republicans.
We need to get BO to go out there and drum up support   ;D
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: TAB on January 23, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
If moon beam wins, this state will fall. 
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2010, 11:48:59 PM
 If Moonbeam wins again the State DESERVES to fall.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: TAB on January 23, 2010, 11:51:26 PM
Just like Obama, it really depends on who runs against him.  McCain lost before he even got out of the gate.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tfr270 on January 24, 2010, 12:03:16 AM
Di Fi isn't well thought of around here either...painted with the same tar brush as Babs. Moonbeam polls better since he is not seen to be involved in the national scene and people think he is doing a good job as AG. The RC has to find someone that is a solid conservative (Tom Campbell anyone?) and is not a RINO. Then that person has to run a solid campaign that gets the OC and LA conservatives to come out in droves at the polls and gets the red half of the state, the Central Valley, Sierras, and Nor Cal, out in force as well. I'm really stuck in who to vote for for Governor. I'll probably write in Campbell.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 24, 2010, 12:47:16 AM
 One of the things that helps Jerry Brown immensely is that it has been so long since He served as Gov. Most voters will not remember how his policies worked (or didn't work )  In fact, since he left Office nearly 30 years ago a significant number of voters were not even born then.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: TAB on January 24, 2010, 01:31:32 AM
another thing that will really help old moonie is he was the guy that let the state workers form a union, we have litterly a entire state work force that does not remember what it was like before that.  He does not want to cut state jobs or state employees pay.  Which maybe fine for some agencys, but agencys like corrections and education, need major overhaul.


I'll give you a perfect example.  A shrink for corrections, makes over 100k more then one that works for the dep of mental health.

Ok so they have to be in the prison right?  nope, state law says they can only talk to them with CCTV.  Where as the shrink for the dep of mental health. has to be in the actually room as the person.


Which job would you choose?( gee let me think)


A corrections officer (AKA prison guard)  makes well north of 60k a year to start, add in OT and its not uncommon to see some one that has been there less then 5 years making over 100k.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Solus on January 24, 2010, 08:21:49 AM
If moon beam wins, this state will fall. 

Look at the bright side.  If he wins, the fall will only be a small distance
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 24, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
 He's over 70 (born in 1938) so he will not be shacked up with any cuties this time.  ;D
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: tfr270 on January 24, 2010, 12:52:12 PM
Actually I think prison guards are way underpaid...How would you like to be a prison guard, deal with the crap they deal with day in and day out, and only barely make enough money to live in this state. And what is wrong with making a $100k through OT? To make OT you have to be at work all that extra time. The system doesn't have to pay extra for benefits, so there is actually savings through that instead of hiring another body. Now, if we had electric bleachers and the balls to use that, the job would be easier.
















 



 
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: Solus on January 24, 2010, 12:58:36 PM
Actually I think prison guards are way underpaid...How would you like to be a prison guard, deal with the crap they deal with day in and day out, and only barely make enough money to live in this state. And what is wrong with making a $100k through OT? To make OT you have to be at work all that extra time. The system doesn't have to pay extra for benefits, so there is actually savings through that instead of hiring another body. Now, if we had electric bleachers and the balls to use that, the job would be easier.


Actually OT is generally at Time and a Half, which adds 50% to the salary.  Benefits generally are less then 30%..so a new body would be cheaper.

Can't comment on the 100K+ pay being reasonable or not...just seems high.
Title: Re: Is California Listening to Mass.?
Post by: TAB on January 24, 2010, 02:59:06 PM
Actually I think prison guards are way underpaid...How would you like to be a prison guard, deal with the crap they deal with day in and day out, and only barely make enough money to live in this state. And what is wrong with making a $100k through OT? To make OT you have to be at work all that extra time. The system doesn't have to pay extra for benefits, so there is actually savings through that instead of hiring another body. Now, if we had electric bleachers and the balls to use that, the job would be easier.


here is the deal with OT, its not them working extra hours.  They work 10-12 hour shifts depending on the prison. So on a normal day they get OT.

For a job that only that you only need a GED and no felonys, they are way over paid.  Long story short abotu 15 years ago or so, they some how got hooked up with the CHP pay scale and bennys.