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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: ericire12 on January 21, 2010, 10:35:18 AM
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http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/34769/
GLENN: So I'm in the airport and, you know, I carry a gun from time to time and I go to whenever you go to the airport in New York, you know it's going to be a nightmare because they immediately, if you have a gun, you are immediately a killer. There's no reason. Most New Yorkers, especially those that work at the airport, most New Yorkers will think, you've got a gun? Why have a gun! Because, A, it's my right to carry one. And have you noticed all the dangerous freaks around? So I went to the airport and, well, the lady immediately when I put my gun box up on the counter, I said it's a gun, she was totally fine with it because she for some reason or another thought I was a cop and she said, okay, just fill this out. And she gave me a piece of paper I had never seen before. I didn't even know what it was. And I'm looking at it and I realize it was for law enforcement. And I said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm not a police officer. I mean, I swear to you she almost reached down below the counter to push the button, "Bzzzz, there's a killer, there's killer at my desk, killer here." They made me take the gun out, apart. I mean, it already didn't have the clip in it, it already had the bullets in a separate box, blah, blah blah, it was already locked, everything. Everything that you're supposed to do. It had to be in three separate boxes. The bullets, the clip and the gun. Three separate pieces of luggage. I said, no, it doesn't. Oh, don't make that mistake. The airline just lost the gun part. It was no big deal. When I got to the other side of, you know, my destination and I said all the way there, my gun's gone, my gun's gone, it's gone. It would have been safer for me to give it to a 4 year old child than to pass it over to the people at the airport. Lo and behold, I'm out West. My gun is in Canada. And I walked up to the counter and I said, "Hey, guess what's missing?" Now unfortunately for the people out West who had nothing to do with the people back east, they kind of got the wrath. They said, "Your luggage?" I said, no, no, my gun! You know, the thing that the people on the other end were so concerned about? You people lost my gun. Of course, then somebody on the, you know, behind the counter heard the word "Gun." "Bzzzz, there's a dangerous killer here, bzzzz." They finally tracked it and I swear to you he looked up and he said, "It's currently in Montreal." Canada? Canada! First of all, we don't necessarily have the most competent people working at the airport. They've kind of lost their vigilance. When George Bush changed their uniforms from white to blue shirts because people weren't respecting the TSA, and do you remember this? And so they change their uniforms and they changed them from white to blue, I thought to myself, that's not the reason we don't listen to them. That's not the reason why we don't respect them.
Now, as you have heard earlier, I do listen to them. I don't usually listen to me or anybody else, but I do usually listen to them because I know the power that they wield and I understand how miserable they can make my life. That's not all TSA agents by any stretch of the imagination and it's not all airports by any stretch of the imagination. But you don't need to change the uniforms. Let's use human intelligence, hmmm? And hire some humans from time to time that have some intelligence. Or use their eyes. And if you want to fix it, there's no more technology that we need. It is a right to fly on a private carrier I'm sorry, it's not a right to fly on a private carrier. It's a privilege. Let's have the private industry screen their own people like El Al does and you know what? Nobody's going to get on a plane with the underwear and a bomb in it. Call me crazy.
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When I left NYC a time ago I flew to Salt Lake. I made the mistake of saying I had a gun in my luggage (back then they didn't x-ray baggage) and guess what? The gun didn't arrive and it had to be shipped to where I was going (Montana) for pick up. When I got the gun the rats in NY had fired it to run ballistic tests on it, that's why it was late. Anything can happen when you leave New York and that's the best part: leaving.
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You are lucky they didn't arrest you.
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In before haz points out the CLIP. :o
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When I left NYC a time ago I flew to Salt Lake. I made the mistake of saying I had a gun in my luggage (back then they didn't x-ray baggage) and guess what? The gun didn't arrive and it had to be shipped to where I was going (Montana) for pick up. When I got the gun the rats in NY had fired it to run ballistic tests on it, that's why it was late. Anything can happen when you leave New York and that's the best part: leaving.
are they allowed to do that ???
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it's nycity, they'll do what ever they want >:(
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it's nycity, they'll do what ever they want >:(
I'm sure there are some good people in NYC and I wouldn't with them ill, but I' wish some could starve everyone else back to the communist/socialist states they want us to become.
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All persons carrying firearms and ammunition in checked baggage, including Law Enforcement Officers, must comply with the provisions of 49 CFR ยง 1540.111. Following is a summary of key requirements of this section and other regulatory provisions.
All firearms must be declared to the air carrier during the ticket counter check-in process. Travelers with firearms should check-in at the ticket counter and not use electronic check-in (e.g., kiosks or the Internet).
All declared firearms must be unloaded and transported in a locked hard-sided container. Travelers are advised to place all firearm parts in a locked hard-sided container to avoid violations.
Access to the declared firearm must be restricted, with only the passenger possessing the container combination or key to the lock. In the event TSA must open the container for inspection, it is preferred that the passenger turn over the key or combination to the screener.
Any ammunition transported must be placed in checked baggage and securely packed in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. firearm magazines/clips do not satisfy the packaging requirement unless they provide a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard). The ammunition may also be located in the same hard-sided case as the firearm as long as it is properly packed as described here.
It is also recommended that the ammunition package in checked baggage be stabilized, either by tapping it to the interior wall of the bag, or by use of packing material or other means to ensure the ammunition package does not move about the interior of the bag during transportation.
Black powder, including Pyrodex, and percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms are not permitted on board aircraft, either as accessible property or in checked baggage.
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are they allowed to do that ???
The federal law says no, NY, Chicago and some other cities do it any way.
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the other part of that is, neither side wants to challenge it in court. the risk vs reward is high.
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They are gettin away with a technicality. The no reciprocity with any state. So they get out of towners for having a handgun with a permit. I read one story on another website where they confiscated a guys gun then fired it for ballistics before returning it. Bunch of nazis.