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Title: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: ericire12 on January 22, 2010, 01:53:06 PM
Yes, the same network that gave us Keith Olbermann(D) has now cought wind of the upcoming gun ban





http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=4845612
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Ban by baby steps
UN's push for Arms Trade Treaty could affect American gun ownership

By Colin Moore
ESPNOutdoors.com

LAS VEGAS — In the parallel world where the likes of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi live, the enlightened govern the ignorant masses by applying one set of universal rules, and it's not the Constitution of the United States.

In Hillary's world, radical ideas progress at first with baby steps that ultimately become great strides to harness the destructive forces in society. That's why the current Secretary of State and the other Hillarys in her world are drawing a bead on gun owners, mainly those in the United States.

In 2012, the United Nation's will push for the Arms Trade Treaty, which, among other things, will establish goals regarding the ownership and disposition of firearms on a global basis. This new world order is apt to take various forms, but none of them are likely to be good for gun owners in this country.

The Arms Trade Treaty, along with attempts to reconstitute the so-called "assault weapons ban," and efforts to ban lead-based ammunition are among the biggest challenges facing the shooting sports industry in the coming years, according to Steve Sanneti, president and CEO of the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

It's been a while since the ban on any firearm that looked remotely like an assault rifle was in effect. Thankfully, the public has become better educated about the firearms and the fact that just because they look like something that Rambo might wield, basically they do the same thing as any other rifle.

Talk of outlawing black guns was a topic that once scored points for politicians in the "blue states," but there's no current movement to return the ban. Still, Sanneti said, it only takes one lunatic with a rifle to re-energize the issue.

The lead ban is an ongoing project for anti-hunters and their allies, the gun control crowd. Banning lead shot on wildlife refuges and other federal lands was the first stage, and now various advocates in the northern tier of states, and California, have taken up the cause. In the Bear State, pro-raptor groups managed to convince the powers-that-be that condors were being poisoned en masse after ingesting lead bullets or shot in the remains of deer or various other game animals and birds.

In truth, more California condors have died from eating the poisoned carcasses of sheep and other domestic animals intended for coyotes. Still, lead was a convenient villain. More recently, anti-hunters tried to stampede food banks and others from accepting donated game meat shot with lead ammo by well-meaning hunters. Eventually, the wheels fell off that campaign when even the Center for Disease Control said it was a bogus issue.

"Anti-hunters will do or say anything to curtail hunting, and they'll settle for winning small battles and advancing their cause in incremental stages," Sanetti said. "What is so insidious about the various lead ban proposals is that they ignore the fact that there are no wildlife populations that have been threatened or endangered because hunters use lead ammunition. It just doesn't happen, and we've got to continue to remind people of that and present the truth."

As for the Arms Trade Treaty, Sanetti said he thinks it might pose the greatest danger if only because there are so many different permutations it could take, any of which could be disastrous to gun owners.

Sanneti is no stranger in Hillary's world, and as a former executive of the Ruger Arms Company, knows of the subtle ways that gun control advocates employ to advance their cause. Convince the general public that if all guns are banned, and nobody has them but governments, then there would be no more wars and no more crime. In effect, the Arms Trade Treaty is one of those baby steps in that direction.

"Essentially, the international community doesn't understand why Americans respect and protect their Second Amendment rights because in most countries no such rights exist," said Sanetti, who is presiding over the annual Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade (SHOT) show. "Of course, the Founders added the Second Amendment as one of the safeguards, and it's not something open for discussion as far as we're concerned.

"The current (Obama) administration has gone on record as saying it's time for this country to rejoin the community of nations and get more in line with various international goals. So, definitely, gun control is moving to the forefront, though not in such an-in-your-face, confrontational manner that we've seen before in this country. Gun control advocates go in one direction, try and fail, and then go in another direction. That's been the pattern."

Sanetti notes that prior to the current administration, UN delegates routinely gave such notions as international gun control a no-way, Jose response. However, recently Secretary Clinton has noted that the administration is not opposed, per se, to an Arms Trade Treaty that inhibits the manufacture and distribution of guns, but rather that the U.S. might go along with it if there is a consensus among the nations.

"Our salvation might be that 2012, which is when the UN will put the Arms Trade Treaty on the front burner, is an election year," Sanetti said. "We feel reasonably confident that this administration is not going to push the treaty or even avow any ownership, but there's no certainty of that. If the administration sidesteps the issue and there is no unanimity among nations, the treaty is probably dead, but we're definitely keeping an eye on developments there."

Eternal vigilance and all that, but it's the price to pay for living in the world next to Hillary's. The neighbors will do whatever they can to get rid of as many guns as possible, perhaps by curtailing the international flow of component materials that go into the manufacture of firearms and ammunition.

It's a long shot, but such ideas have merit in Hillary's world, where even little victories lead ever closer to the big prize: no guns, just government.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: tt11758 on January 22, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life on Hillary's (Chuckie Schumer's/Janetfromanotherplanet Napolitano's/ObaMao's/Pelosi's/Reid's) planet!!
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 22, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
Passing something like that is one thing, ENFORCING it is a whole different ball game.
They might as well just declare a Season on politicians and sell licenses. Guy's will be bragging about how they got out first thing in the morning and nailed an 8 term f-ck.   ;D
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: garand4life on January 22, 2010, 03:35:12 PM
ATTENTION HUNTERS: 2012 will be open season on the leftist UN agenda. No permit or tags required.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: bulldog75 on January 22, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
Will the game warden cite you for poaching. Or will he be poaching too.

Pass the dam dynamite Possium cop you are hogging all the fun.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 22, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
Time to go find all those old signs from the 60's and 70's that were posted around the coutry ...

Get U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: twyacht on January 22, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
Can we initiate a civilian "Sapper" program?

Most of us have been on guard for the inevitable "baby steps",....remember AG Holder's remarks regarding AW's right after getting in?

The Brady brown nosing Congress critters that tried HR145, or a couple others that have yet to get any support?

They won't stop, they'll keep trying baby steps, good ol' Dianne Feinstien is quoted saying "They'll pick the time",,....re: gun control.

Pray the SCOTUS has a 5-4 majority to the right, until 2013.

Tom is ,"enforcement" in tight budget city, county, state LEO's dept's will be tough....Unless they try an "extreme" direction.

that's a whole different level not even Hillary can imagine...
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 22, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
 Considering the number of Current and former Cops that post on here and agree with us, the "Oath Keepers" organization, and the members of various agencies that agree but keep it to themselves, even "extreme measures" might not go quite the way the enemies of Liberty have them planned.  ;D

And I whole heartedly agree with M58, F-CK the UN.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: ericire12 on January 22, 2010, 06:33:44 PM
And I whole heartedly agree with M58, F-CK the UN.

I wouldn't f-u-c-k the UN with TAB's dick ;D
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: Woody on January 30, 2010, 11:54:55 PM
 So, is that why DHS ordered 4 batalilians of Russian troops over here? Look it up. Been preparing 20 years for this.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 31, 2010, 12:53:19 AM
 Woody, you got that crap from that crack smoking Jones didn't you ?
First off, as a military force in the US, 4 Battalions ain't sh!t.
Second, I find it hard to believe that even Janet from another planet is dumb enough to issue orders to FOREIGN troops.
Thirdly, I find it even harder to believe that their Commander would not tell her to piss up a rope as he takes his orders from MOSCOW.
Fourthly, Putin and his larcenous pals are to busy looting Russia and resisting their own muslim problems to part with any of their not very good troops, or to spend the money, to deploy them this far away.
It's pretty obvious that you don't know crap about logistics, or Russian politics. It's also obvious that instead of actually thinking for yourself you just parrot every conspiracy theory you get fed from the tin foil mafia.
Any one with an ounce of common sense realized years ago that while we may wind up fighting in the streets here it won't be against "UN" foreigners, the only ones who believe that crap are deluded, paranoid,fools. Any fighting will be against other Americans who put "orders" before Constitution. Just like in New Orleans after Katrina.
Title: Re: ESPN covers UN's Arms Treaty plan
Post by: crusader rabbit on January 31, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life on Hillary's (Chuckie Schumer's/Janetfromanotherplanet Napolitano's/ObaMao's/Pelosi's/Reid's) planet!!

Save me a seat, will ya please?