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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: Walter45Auto on January 23, 2010, 04:42:24 AM

Title: Knife Question.....
Post by: Walter45Auto on January 23, 2010, 04:42:24 AM
I've been thinking about getting a small fixed blade knife to carry every day. Probably the Ka-Bar TDI or something similar. I'd like to carry it in a position where I can reach the knife with either hand, but I'm not sure about carrying it in the middle of the back. Also I woukd probably want to carry it concealed. Now I know first answer out of everyone's keyboard will be "Try it out and see what works best for you" but I would like a couple suggestions for a starting point. So where's a good position to carry one to get to it with either hand?
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: ellis4538 on January 23, 2010, 05:03:22 AM
I just bought a fixed blade that can be warn hanging from a chord around the neck.  I am going to try it at a party tonight.  I have (it is up for sale) a TDI and find it very awkward to present!  From what I understand (Ohio is the home of TDI), it is meant to be warn on the off side so that it can be used in case of an attempted snatch of your strong side weapon and would be very difficult to present with either hand.  Keep us posted.

FWIW

Richard

Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2010, 10:46:06 AM
The problem with middle of the back carry is if you fall on it you risk injury to your spine, whether it is during an attempted assault of some sort or even something as mundane as slipping on a wet floor or icy sidewalk.
I would do like Ellis and try out the ones on the neck cord.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: Overload on January 23, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
The 'L' shape of the TDI makes carry unusual.  Many police carry it in front of the offside hip (above the front pocket), behind some of their belt gear, in crossdraw style.  I've carried mine where I'd normally carry a pistol, behind my strong side hip.  Either mode can be drawn with either hand, but the front carry is easier for both hands.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: tfr270 on January 23, 2010, 09:38:57 PM
check out the hideaway knife. Small fixed blade. just google hideaway knife and you should find it.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: Overload on January 24, 2010, 02:09:03 AM
check out the hideaway knife. Small fixed blade. just google hideaway knife and you should find it.

Just know the company has had problems in the past.  I haven't heard anything recently bad, so their current ownership may be ... better.  That said, I have 3 of them, some custom, some production.  The difference between HAK and other finger hole knives that have come out since  is that the HAK comes in different sizes to fit your fingers.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: texcaliber on January 24, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
I've been thinking about getting a small fixed blade knife to carry every day. Probably the Ka-Bar TDI or something similar. I'd like to carry it in a position where I can reach the knife with either hand, but I'm not sure about carrying it in the middle of the back. Also I woukd probably want to carry it concealed. Now I know first answer out of everyone's keyboard will be "Try it out and see what works best for you" but I would like a couple suggestions for a starting point. So where's a good position to carry one to get to it with either hand?

As for the the ambi deploy, small but usable along with being concealable, I will recommend the "HawgTooth" neck knife. http://www.hogtoothknives.com/ 

I have owned the older model PDK154 ORIGINAL  which is sans the pinky ring and has the talon blade. The little knife has a ton of cutting power when slashing and are very well made with. One negative is the order time takes a few weeks, but that is a small mark in the con column.

tex
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: ellis4538 on January 25, 2010, 06:49:19 AM
Tried out the neck knife at a party...worked well.  Easy to get to .  No one knew it was there.  Shifted around a little but not enough to be a problem.

FWIW

Richard
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: Solus on January 25, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
While we are talking knives here, I have some questions for those who might have experience in knife fighting.

I have garnered a bit of information from Bill Bagwell's various writings that a fighting blade needs to be 10"+ to allow penetration to vital organs. 

I have a lot of faith in what Mr. Bagwell says.  He has been an instructor for US Army Special Forces and designed and made what some consider the best fighting Bowie knife, his Hell's Bells line.

In my own limited experience, I did not find a long blade to fit my novice and desperate style...I didn't want to get anywhere near close enough to the guy coming at me with his knife to make a penetrating strike.  Instead I found it much safer and easier to fight his knife hand and get a good slash on it which ended the fight...on two occasions.

I was carrying the big Buck clip point folder at that time.

Since I have gotten a CCW, I haven't paid much attention to carrying a knife for defense.



Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: ellis4538 on January 25, 2010, 01:18:38 PM
A good knife (or two) is always useful to carry where legal...along with you CCW weapon (or two) so the experts say!

Richard
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: cracker1952 on January 25, 2010, 07:57:03 PM
I've been looking at the Wilson Cop Tool any thoughts on this blade carry option.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: Overload on January 26, 2010, 12:25:31 AM
I've been looking at the Wilson Cop Tool any thoughts on this blade carry option.

Why not the Boker cop tool?  For under $50, if you're interested, give it a try.

But as to design, it seems to be a Razel homage with a hook added.  I don't like serrated blades, as they're hard to sharpen, but they increase blade size, and stay sharp longer than non-serrated.

Look at the Graham Brothers Razel, or the CRKT versions.  I like the ringed versions, as I can let go of the knife to do something, and have it hanging from my pinkie finger ready to swing back into use.
Title: Re: Knife Question.....
Post by: Lawrence Keeney on January 27, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
I have the smaller CRKT razel and it is worth the money.